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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1e5HAZo4iwSee NATE HAGENS YouTube channel if you really want to hear the brightest minds in the world discuss these issues with zero b.s. and minimal politics.
FRUITFUL TREES did a video about a brand new Zill variety, basically described as an improved Piña Colada. No name yet.Listed as a robust vigorous tree, how small can this mango be kept trimmed yet still fruit?
I'd be happy with 5-6 fruit each season for personal consumption or tossing a couple in a mango box to send to my son in Oregon.
We have a few people growing it on the forum. (I'm not one of them but I've seen plenty of mature trees).
I guess it depends on how small you thing small is. I'd say an 8-10ft tree might be able to work.
This is not that productive of a variety but the fruits tend to be really big so you'd need a tree to be able to support that weight without breaking.
You should also consider pina colada if you want something less vigorous with some of the same flavor profiles.
Sonpari grown here in Miami was as good as Alphonso i ate in Nepal and i bet it will taste better grown in India. I liked the White Pirie and Taymour (the one from Tropical Acres), they were both outstanding with similar taste profile.Are you back in town?
CeeJay Calusa you guys are wasting a ton of energy arguing your points on here.It shouldn't be a left/right issue. However, no one EVER changes his mind when presented with an argument. It only increases resistance and makes him dig his heels in deeper. The process happens gradually over time with the right approach. Ya can't just call him an idiot and expect an instant conversion even if you present all the best, most rigorous scientific information.
Last time Im ever making any comments on any left/right subjects online.
Freeze this thread!!!!!In the early days of this forum, we had a miscellaneous section where "controversial" topics were discussed (?). It was removed for obvious reasons.
My mind is made up. I'll find my own facts. Now let's talk about mangos and tropical fruits.Much of the research used to promote the climate change scare has been proven by numerous respected scientific bodies around the world to be extremely flawed, skewed and downright fraudulent.
(Citation needed)
Every single "respected scientific body" in the world, without exception, agrees that climate change is real, is human-caused, and the only "exceptions" are a few individuals who claim falsely that they are being silenced. Those individuals are the ones who are "agenda-driven."
I personally don’t think science is the answer. Dow AgroSciences probably employs tons of scientists. The answer is living in a way that aligns with nature. People aren’t going to give up all their modern conveniences but there are ways we can all improve. Governments could do more to help, actually a lot of improvements could be made with government intervention (ex stopping single use plastics-bringing your own straw or fork to a restaurant isn’t that much of an inconvenience, and there are paper product alternatives as well) - not that anyone in the government will do thisThe two really can't go together if you do a deep dive into the issues. That's the problem in a nutshell. This is not directed at you personally, Julie. It's our civilization. BUT could we strike a balance between a reasonable degree of comfort and respecting natural systems and planetary limitations? I think so.
I have Maria Black and I've tasted the fruit. The flavor was good, it was similar to Oro Negro, but matures earlier. The tree seems healthy and growing well.If the taste is similar to Oro Negro, that sounds pretty good. A step up from Simmonds, Monroe, Choquette, and others.
The climate is changing, and scientists aren't all a bunch of idiots with twisted agendas. Most of them want to add to our knowledge base and understanding of how things work. There are other people with agendas that are pushing lies and splitting people.No arguments with this. At least from me.
As finicky as we are about our plants, why is it so hard to understand that industrialization and all the stuff we have done as we have progressed, has changed our climate and has effects upon living creatures? It's like arguing about whether or not the heater or ac affects the indoor climate. I agree that the doomsday predictions are a bit much to take, and extremists on whatever side make others look irrational.
The US military is taking climate change and sea level rise seriously, but we know they love to waste money. lol
Miami-Dade was in a drought situation too, until recently. Lots of rain daily for the last couple of weeks.
No doubt the climate will change it always has, but we are still basically idiots when it comes to predicting anything.Yes, we are basically idiots, but I'd say for other reasons. And yes, most of Green Tech and "transition to renewables" is another way for corporations and the super-rich to make money. (Look at Bill Gates, the supposed philanthropist. He's got his greedy fingers in everything.)
The people invested in Green Tech seem have tons to lose if people arent on message.
How well is your Beverly doing now, LEOOEL? I bumped this thread because I planted a 3 gallon Beverly in March. 5 years later, your Beverly should be mature.Last active February 26. Last post August 5, 2022.
All those damn "scientists" and their worthless "PhDs"! Just trying to make money by scamming us. Why don't they get real jobs?Is anyone seeing a lot of (or more than in the past) water accumulation in your neighborhood? My street never had this issue before, I specifically bought a house that wasn't in a flood zone, but this rainy season is different. Huge puddles are flooding the streets. It seems like climate change is here. Also the cold weather today is strange for this time of year.
Julie, if having puddles in Miami means climate change is there, then climate change isn't 350 miles away in St pete, where there are piles of dry sand that's been blown freely by the wind because we have almost no rain at all. What used to be our lawns is now a crunchy mass of dead matter that sounds like you're walking across corn flakes.
That is Climate Change, the two events are linked.
The rain and weather patterns change or shift in time or geography, or the drought / rain cycle frequency changes.
Last Year was a very wet year here in Australia, this year it is already much drier, little rain.
Also the rain pattern here has move from winter rain to summer rain, similar to further north.
Disaster for grape and stone fruit farmers, with increased fungi and moulds.
That's climate change? Really?
I've lived in Florida my entire life, and I've seen floods and I've seen droughts. I've seen 100 degree+ temperatures decades ago and I've seen 16 degrees in Central Florida. All this in a span of 65+ years. What we are seeing in Florida right now, we have already seen it decades ago. It's weather, it's cyclical. Climate change - real climate change not the kind that CNN, NatGO and the Weather Channel hype constantly - takes place so slowly that no living human lives long enough to notice it or record it. But that won't stop the university "scientists" who have been politicized so as to keep the funding in place for their "studies", the results of which somehow dovetail perfectly with what we hear from every Chicken Little in the country. These are the same people who told us back in the 1970's that the planet was going to freeze solid and kill everything we humans need to eat.
Sorry to disagree, but I am a native Floridian and I come from a few generations of native Floridians who have more smarts and common sense and lived longer than a lot of these fakes who spew climate change non-stop.
These came from Leaph in WPBYou didn't ask him for the backstory?
I eagerly await sales of boxes of these beauties.Really? Are you sure they're Kent? Kent is the original fiberless mango.
In Vegas, we get nothing but stores selling boxes of fibrous, flavorless Kent monstrosities.
Interesting articleNow that is cool! And I can see from the picture of the Mexican beach that they're getting about ten times more of the stuff than we are here.
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2023/0419/The-world-sees-invasive-seaweed.-This-gardener-sees-housing-bricks?cmpid=kwcpc&kwp_0=2261763&kwp_4=6404541&kwp_1=2748828&fbclid=IwAR1K2dPXeeavywg-gLmzwD6IUQa3nmtHSTLWmtk7UkoahsvlrWyFRL5sxdw_aem_th_AUhNYK8LSycU1rkHFTmsEPUrVG9AY_1II3k9Amcy3ikIs-q9Pv3e4x8N9qQEmTy0sgn8KA6brN1J5BTGwRm02hgl
Another approach was the one by my friend Dave, from Tropical Nth Qld.That explains it!
He lives in a open side house in the jungle.
Basically he threw any Avocado seed as far as he could, out through the open kitchen window into the jungle.
He was originally American.
Was the carmen no good John? Thry may have gotten over ripe. I had a few carmens a month ago that were really special too. But I have to say that tree doesnt do that well in the heat here. Regular hass grows better.The 2 Carmens in my box seem to be ok. I'm glad you included them as we recently planted a Carmen tree at my nephew's house in Port St. Lucie. Nothing is ripe yet (=giving to the touch and ready to eat). Are Carmens always smaller than Hass? Dyrmifolia mentioned that the Nabal ripened unevenly. How common is that? Two months ago I ordered Fuertes from Fallbrook so it's going to be interesting to see how these other varieties compare. I found those Fuertes decent but nothing special, but I'm pretty sure that I've had better Fuertes in the past.
