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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: orange Eugenia aff. involucrata
« on: January 24, 2022, 06:08:08 PM »
Wow bizarre, mine flowered last year and is maybe on 25% that big. Probably just stress from being rootbound. I put both of mine into 15g now

Was it a sudden freeze or were they hardened off

They weren't hardened off, still pink

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: orange Eugenia aff. involucrata
« on: January 24, 2022, 04:13:18 PM »
At that size, must be fruiting. I am going to try tacking a scion onto my CORG to see if it works. CORG has been very easy grafting for me so I suspect it should take.


I leave a lot of eugenia out in the cold as well. Last year I left my large sabara uncovered down to 28f and it didn't even blink, I did cover it for a 26f spell but will probably leave it out all year long this year no cover. Some of these things are surprisingly hardy!
Small 1-2ft sabaras pulled through 22F just fine last year. I forgot if the tender new growth was even affected or not, I think it wilted. Same freeze stumped almost every single mango, guava, carambola, atemoya, papaya, jack, etc. WI avocados damaged, for reference, but G/M types were fine. However many lychees 3-10x the caliper of those sabaras had major branch splitting. Eugenias are hardy

My jabos do well in the cold as well, no sweat at 25f. I did get some burnt young foliage this season around 28f.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2022 Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order
« on: January 24, 2022, 01:53:11 PM »
These look really good. Awesome Job Bill.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Che to Mulberry
« on: January 24, 2022, 11:52:09 AM »
Note I may not answer message for a week (off work this week) but always reply back

Here are some pictures of wood
on thread

The morton arboretum down the street has a Osage orange and che hybrid (from France)
I been looking for for over 10 years,

che taste like chewy watermelon would be good dried ,
but K rimes are you sure of sliver sized seed
 the seed I saw was bigger like a date seed in a street tree fruit in Ohio.
(I sampled a seedless one as well with no male tree around
 unless a osage polinated yours I wouldn;t know though if that would give small seed. )

Must have been seedless then? but there was a male present.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: orange Eugenia aff. involucrata
« on: January 23, 2022, 01:37:26 AM »
I have two, one that flowered last year I think also from 2018 seeds. Hoping for fruit this year.

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Santa Barbara Peach Scions
« on: January 23, 2022, 12:49:52 AM »

This is a tasty low chill peach that does well in 10a. It has a particular pointy tip to it, and produces prolifically and large fruit. One of these trees broke in half due to too much fruit.

$5 each, will cut them down to about 6-8” long. $6 each if you want me to buddy tape them pre shipment.

Minimum 4. Shipped USPS priority.

I think the growers in FL and CA are lucky when it comes to group sales and we always get the short end of the stick in AZ.
Seriously, take him up on the offer.  I really wish we had enough AZ members to do something like this.

Not too far of a drive out for something really cool, but I know it hurts and is $$$. Even just up here in Santa Barbara I get jealous of the SD groups meet-ups.

Looking good, love seeing jabo grafts in particular. One thing I've been doing is putting my finger right over top of the rootstock on the top of the blade and that prevents it from zipping down into your left hand holding the graft. It'll hit your finger and only go the depth of the blade. Works good.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge Loquat Leaves
« on: January 20, 2022, 11:46:20 AM »
I have a seedling like this as well, full sun. Almost foot long leaves. It is from that tree I still want to get you scions from, Kaz. Will try to find the house owners this spring. The fruit quality is VERY good so maybe this is a good sign for  that seedling.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gopher Gold
« on: January 20, 2022, 11:44:45 AM »
The only damage so far is that a vole was coming out and munching down stalks of golden berry. I was going to prune it hard anyways so I don't care too much but it's not a good sign... I'll probably start trapping them to be safe.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Multi-Grafted Citrus tree fruiting
« on: January 19, 2022, 10:11:07 PM »
Wow, that is so cool to see! Very healthy. I see you've tied individual fruits to branches, did you also tie some of the super loaded branches to something? That production is insane!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gopher Gold
« on: January 19, 2022, 12:03:11 PM »
I have handled all the gophers in the immediate area and now have a new task... VOLES. They are harder to figure out since they don't leave mounds. I often don't find their holes for weeks.... Sigh, now to read up about how to trap them. Sounds like mouse traps along their "runs"

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Root Feeding: Yea Or Nay?
« on: January 17, 2022, 08:33:47 PM »
It sounds to me like disturbing or cutting a few roots and soil feeding would be doing the same thing? It just seems weird that a single pierced root would "turn on" the tree like you're describing. Eventually whatever you put on top will leach down to the roots.

Did an imidacloprid + Propiconazole drench. Believe, convinced, these black Aphids carry a wilting fungus.  This tree is too small to worry about any fruit now. 

My annonas, even in the greenhouse, have that sometimes too. I've always suspected it to be winter blues / coming out of dormancy too early.

I try so hard to not use treatments at home but then I realize any time I eat fruit from a grocery store, it's probably had the entire "icide" book thrown at it for fungal, insects, etc, so, I don't worry too much anymore. For as effective as it is, I would wager imidacloprid use must be widespread in agriculture.

Imidacloprid is supposedly fine for eating after 2 weeks in the soil. I dunno, reading about how it makes insect's brains explode seems uhm, a lil concerning for consumption haha.

I don't have a scale problem but I do get other sucking insects (whiteflies and Leafhoppers).
I started to use Imidacloprid drench once a year while the trees are young to help them get established better.
The organic methods that seem to work involved pretty expensive stuff with weekly spraying (Botniguard and azadirachtin) and I couldn't keep up.

I get scale on my abiu and i use tanglefoot for that to stop the ants

I gave up on organic stuff and also use imidacloprid if it's out of control. I especially don't mind using it on non-producing or juvenile trees but try to stop when they are fruiting actively.

Scalebug is effecting a lot of stuff I have so I'll probably need to go hard in the greenhouse to clear it out. Sprays of neem and pyrethrin haven't been doing it.

Looks like typical color caused from cooler temps.
I notice all my jabos look ragged this time of the year and
usually push new leaves around March and look much better.

Same thing here. That purple look is classic "I am cold and do not like it" for all my eugenia / jabo. We're almost out of the hole and I see them charging up with lots of new branch spikes.

I own a zoological facility in Michigan and we house a large number of sloths here.  A part if their natural diet is the leaves and fruit of the cecropia tree.  I am looking for reliable suppliers that could do weekly shipments of leaves and fruit.  Thank you

Very cool. I saw many sloths in Costa Rica when I was there a few weeks ago. You're doing great to serve them up the cercropia, they were always in them there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Che to Mulberry
« on: January 15, 2022, 03:46:55 PM »
Do you like the fruit?


I tried it at another SB collector's house and I found it agreeable. It's like mixing a mulberry and a watermelon and it has little sliver style seeds that aren't bad to crunch or spit out. It's not a 10/10 or anything but I think it's worth having. It's really cool looking, big mutant red fruits hanging off branches.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Che to Mulberry
« on: January 15, 2022, 03:45:48 PM »
I think my friend told me he collected Osage seed at Francheschi in the last month or so…..?
I haven't been able to find osage orange anywhere at CA nurseries. If someone has a line on some, let me know. I see some bare rooted grafted norris for $30 so I may do that, we'll see.

Oh dang, I hear osage roots SUPER easy too so I would love to find that plant there. I can't seem to find the plant map from Franchesci, I saw it once though. I'll have to cruise around.

I've sorted out everything based on the best of my abilities. I'll ship on Tuesday. Hopefully seller will respond and give refund for the ~$300 loss. Sucks that most of that loss was on 1 person, not distributed among everyone.

Yes, I wondered how losses would be distributed. I hope you all will have luck with germination and refunds due to insect issues.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Multi-grafted Citrus Show Off
« on: January 15, 2022, 11:09:52 AM »
I just did a similar project on my gf's parents totally inedible pomelo. Now has: xie shan, pixie, pink shaddock, meiwa kumquat, orogold grapefruit, and a few others. Really excited to see these cocktails take off!
The pomelo is a graft on a rootstock, and so the cocktails were grafted on the pomelo branches?

Why not cut off those nasty spikes that could scratch the hands? Any good reason to leave them on? They can cause a flat tire I'm sure.

I would suspect it's a grafted tree, but part of me wonders if this was just a pomelo seedling or something. The quality is absolute garbage. Truly inedible. It was actually purchased as a meyer lemon by my gf's parents. It grows really well though so I figured it's a good call for grafting. I look forward to seeing it bush out over the next few years.

I didn't know you could clip the spikes off. They are awful, but I figured it may wound the tree or leave it susceptible to infection if I clip too much.

Not sure what you mean v-cut vs one-side-cut? I did a standard cleft graft with a long low angle V on the scions. They're sealed in buddy tape and then I used nursery tape to really smush the graft union, it's my go to method for any grafting. Sometimes I will change the angle of the V cut on the scion to re-direct the angle of the branch for aesthetic reasons.

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