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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rollinia
« on: January 24, 2023, 10:57:00 PM »
New to Rollinia. Planted seed last year, they have started well but will be waiting many years before I can join the conversation on fruiting.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Potassium Sulfate
« on: January 23, 2023, 05:59:11 PM »
Ed
I believe many mango growers use 0-0-50 (potassium sulfate) in granular form. There are lots of post describing its use and value. Yours is the first I have seen it applied as a foliar application, interesting.
I believe many mango growers use 0-0-50 (potassium sulfate) in granular form. There are lots of post describing its use and value. Yours is the first I have seen it applied as a foliar application, interesting.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where are the flies - Mango pollinator (pollination) talk
« on: January 21, 2023, 10:58:15 PM »
I have lots of flowering plants that attract lots of bees. In my experience from previous seasons, the bees ignore the mango instead busy themselves with the other plants. I was surprised and pleased to see some bees in the mango canopy this morning.
Flies in past seasons have done most of my mango pollination. You can expect to find them all over the mango panicles, exclusively visiting mango to the exclusion of everything else.
Flies in past seasons have done most of my mango pollination. You can expect to find them all over the mango panicles, exclusively visiting mango to the exclusion of everything else.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where are the flies - Mango pollinator (pollination) talk
« on: January 21, 2023, 10:48:08 AM »I will supply any necessary fish carcasses. Pickup only.
Careful, I may take you up on that with a cooler or two to get fish carcasses. Perhaps not for flies attraction and multiplication but to bury under some trees in the yard, or to make this homemade fish emulsion fertilizer I came across some time ago.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where are the flies - Mango pollinator (pollination) talk
« on: January 21, 2023, 10:44:57 AM »
OK, I take it back. I should have said I had not seen one fly yet!
I was out this morning and it appeared nature was saying "not true, my friend, not true"
Not only did I see flies (not in large numbers yet) but I also saw bees up in the mango canopy instead on the flowers below the tree. There was even a pair of love bugs.
So I believe I was just a bit early and should wait for the flowers to open before I declare a paucity of pollinators. The new mantra should be when the flowers open, they will come.
A lingering thought, maybe I don't need dead fish, or perhaps I should hedge my bets.
I was out this morning and it appeared nature was saying "not true, my friend, not true"
Not only did I see flies (not in large numbers yet) but I also saw bees up in the mango canopy instead on the flowers below the tree. There was even a pair of love bugs.
So I believe I was just a bit early and should wait for the flowers to open before I declare a paucity of pollinators. The new mantra should be when the flowers open, they will come.
A lingering thought, maybe I don't need dead fish, or perhaps I should hedge my bets.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any New or Interesting Mango Varieties to Collect this 2023?
« on: January 20, 2023, 10:00:39 PM »
New to me late last year were 3 varieties.
1. Beatrice
2. Amy, and
3. Victoria.
I don't know how new these are or were but I had not heard of or had the fruit till late in the season last year.
I ended up sending the Beatrice to a friend who gave it a positive review. I tried the other two and was very impressed with the Victoria.
I will likely stop by Walter's again this year and try the Victoria and Beatrice to see if they are worth collecting.
1. Beatrice
2. Amy, and
3. Victoria.
I don't know how new these are or were but I had not heard of or had the fruit till late in the season last year.
I ended up sending the Beatrice to a friend who gave it a positive review. I tried the other two and was very impressed with the Victoria.
I will likely stop by Walter's again this year and try the Victoria and Beatrice to see if they are worth collecting.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Where are the flies - Mango pollinator (pollination) talk
« on: January 20, 2023, 06:03:44 PM »
So the chill from late December and this past week has started the mango flowering in my yard, Yay!. There is only one problem, I can't find one fly in my yard. This would usually be a very pleasing condition but I could use some good mango pollinators right now (or perhaps in two weeks).
I am starting to think I have to go get some fish carcass to strategically place in my yard (so I wont smell it unless the wind blows in the wrong direction).
I expect I will just wait and see if they arrive with the mature panicles.
For those of you in south Florida, what pollinator(s) are you seeing? Is the temperature right to have decent pollination? Any strategies or hints on attracting mango pollinators?
By the way, I do have some bees buzzing around and one or two may stray on to a mango but the flies in the past are the major mango pollinators in my yard.
I am starting to think I have to go get some fish carcass to strategically place in my yard (so I wont smell it unless the wind blows in the wrong direction).
I expect I will just wait and see if they arrive with the mature panicles.
For those of you in south Florida, what pollinator(s) are you seeing? Is the temperature right to have decent pollination? Any strategies or hints on attracting mango pollinators?
By the way, I do have some bees buzzing around and one or two may stray on to a mango but the flies in the past are the major mango pollinators in my yard.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Minimum size/trunk girth to let a Pickering hold fruit?
« on: January 19, 2023, 09:57:27 PM »
On first read, I thought you said 2 inch diameter and my thought was let that hold fruit.
You said 2 inch girth, which is two thirds of an inch across. I agree with the general suggestion to let it grow and wait for fruits in the future.
You said 2 inch girth, which is two thirds of an inch across. I agree with the general suggestion to let it grow and wait for fruits in the future.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How cold will it get in your part of Florida in the next week
« on: January 15, 2023, 10:23:40 AM »
Coldest I saw was 39 degrees but this was after some warming this morning. May have been 36 or 37 at the coldest.
Better than I expected based on the forecasts. Now we start a slow climb up, .... for now.
Better than I expected based on the forecasts. Now we start a slow climb up, .... for now.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: All this rain in California
« on: January 14, 2023, 06:54:52 PM »
Wow, 17 inches in 24 hours is huge, wherever one gets it.
Glad you are out of harms way but that must be terrible for the folks who live in town with mud flows and waist high flooding.
Glad you are out of harms way but that must be terrible for the folks who live in town with mud flows and waist high flooding.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How cold will it get in your part of Florida in the next week
« on: January 14, 2023, 06:27:28 PM »
I envy your 39, I am looking at 35 or a tad lower. Brrrrr.
Most potted plants are in.
Not sure there is anything I can do for my Soursops which are in the ground.
All but one of them defoliated over Christmas. The one that showed some tolerance is very exposed now and will likely take a hit tonight.
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Most potted plants are in.
Not sure there is anything I can do for my Soursops which are in the ground.
All but one of them defoliated over Christmas. The one that showed some tolerance is very exposed now and will likely take a hit tonight.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / All this rain in California
« on: January 13, 2023, 11:10:56 PM »
Hope you are all doing OK
Is this atmospheric river a drought buster? Looking for a silver lining.
Is this atmospheric river a drought buster? Looking for a silver lining.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: January 13, 2023, 06:02:51 PM »
Several trees are breaking bud and flowering already. I will wait until this current cold spell passes before making an assessment on what the season may be like.
I expect one maybe two more deep drops before spring (after this weekend). Depending on the timing of those cold spells, it could be boom or bust.
I expect one maybe two more deep drops before spring (after this weekend). Depending on the timing of those cold spells, it could be boom or bust.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Colder than normal winter in Florida 22/23?
« on: January 13, 2023, 06:00:04 PM »Rekindling this discussion.Any thoughts on who was right at this point? Was it Farmer's Alminac or the TV guy?Interestingly, both conventional and farmers Almanac may be on the same side of this one, on closer examination. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLYDnhnOZcI) had a little titbit.
Typically, a strong La Nina often results in warmer dryer conditions in south Florida over winter.
Apparently we have had two other period in recent history with back to back to back (3 La Nina years in a row), this year being the third occurrence. The only other two times, third year of La Nina resulted in a reversed trend with colder and wetter winter than normal.
The speaker addresses the effects of La Nina starting at the 20 minute mark on the video and talks bout the observation for a third year of sustained La Nina at the 23:19 mark and the 25:12 mark approximately.
Enjoy.
Could we have both a warmer than normal winter (above average temperature over the season) and some some really cold event scattered here and there? Where does this combination of deep cold and warm spells stand with regards to mango and or lychee?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How cold will it get in your part of Florida in the next week
« on: January 12, 2023, 08:44:02 PM »
Indeed, here we go again. The last cold spell got a couple of varieties going. The flowers are just beginning to form.
This one should push most over the ledge.
With temperatures potentially dropping into the mid 30s, I have to move potted delicate plants into the garage again.
This one should push most over the ledge.
With temperatures potentially dropping into the mid 30s, I have to move potted delicate plants into the garage again.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is the undisputed, hands down, BEST mango variety?
« on: January 07, 2023, 06:18:15 PM »
I believe there is a variety called "Best, it must surely be the BEST. 
Now someone should name a variety "Undisputed".
Now someone should name a variety "Undisputed".
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Basic mango fertilizer numbers?
« on: January 07, 2023, 02:25:38 PM »
The old link broke, this works
https://treasurecoastrarefruitclub.wordpress.com/mango-fertilizer-routine/
https://treasurecoastrarefruitclub.wordpress.com/mango-fertilizer-routine/
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Peluche Loquat
« on: December 31, 2022, 11:37:02 PM »
Iceman, the key was in his original post. You describe a well healed union on a graft as hardened.
"$50 for 5 gallon well hardened off."
Understanding that hardening (slowly exposing to harsher conditions that the seedling was germinated in) is also used for describing something done to seedlings, I can see the reason for the question.
Happy New Year, all!
"$50 for 5 gallon well hardened off."
Understanding that hardening (slowly exposing to harsher conditions that the seedling was germinated in) is also used for describing something done to seedlings, I can see the reason for the question.
Happy New Year, all!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees I gave up on
« on: December 30, 2022, 10:11:49 PM »Soursop will be gone. Any temps below 40f , it drops leaves and fruits. Trying mountain soursop instead.In case you really like Soursop, I have one that did not loose leaves each of the time I get 36 degree or less, while the others all turn brown and drop leaves. I will be able to share scions in the future. For now, I am waiting to see how the fruit tastes.
Everbearing mulberry is gone. Too tiny and messy. Will keep thai and
austirkey.
Many unproductive figs are gone.
Kaffir lime tree will be gone. No use for it in my house.
Ana
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How cold did it get in your FL yard and what if any damage are you seeing
« on: December 28, 2022, 07:31:13 PM »
I covered a couple of smaller plants, dragon fruit, a couple of small inground mango that had just flushed new leaves, and a small sapodilla a friend gave me. I left them covered for most of 3 days and they all did OK.
I am thinking it (covering young plants) was the right thing to do based on the outcome so far.
I am thinking it (covering young plants) was the right thing to do based on the outcome so far.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / How cold did it get in your FL yard and what if any damage are you seeing
« on: December 28, 2022, 05:33:14 PM »
Follow up to my post "How cold will it get in your part of Florida in the next week"
I believe my low was 37 (though it might have been a degree colder.) I don't know for how long. It was about 41 for the lows by the third night and progressively warmer since.
Most plants that I left outdoor did OK. Mango all look fine so far, avocado also. Jaboticaba also look just fine. Guava too early to tell, atemoya and sugar apples were looking scraggly before the cols and continue to look the same.
Seeing some leaf turning brown on Soursop (one variety that in the past showed some cold tolerance again appears unimpacted). Ice Cream beans also had some leaves turning brown.
I believe my low was 37 (though it might have been a degree colder.) I don't know for how long. It was about 41 for the lows by the third night and progressively warmer since.
Most plants that I left outdoor did OK. Mango all look fine so far, avocado also. Jaboticaba also look just fine. Guava too early to tell, atemoya and sugar apples were looking scraggly before the cols and continue to look the same.
Seeing some leaf turning brown on Soursop (one variety that in the past showed some cold tolerance again appears unimpacted). Ice Cream beans also had some leaves turning brown.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Colder than normal winter in Florida 22/23?
« on: December 24, 2022, 02:45:23 AM »Any thoughts on who was right at this point? Was it Farmer's Alminac or the TV guy?Interestingly, both conventional and farmers Almanac may be on the same side of this one, on closer examination. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLYDnhnOZcI) had a little titbit.
Typically, a strong La Nina often results in warmer dryer conditions in south Florida over winter.
Apparently we have had two other period in recent history with back to back to back (3 La Nina years in a row), this year being the third occurrence. The only other two times, third year of La Nina resulted in a reversed trend with colder and wetter winter than normal.
The speaker addresses the effects of La Nina starting at the 20 minute mark on the video and talks bout the observation for a third year of sustained La Nina at the 23:19 mark and the 25:12 mark approximately.
Enjoy.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / How cold will it get in your part of Florida in the next week
« on: December 20, 2022, 01:34:44 AM »
Jupiter Florida in northern Palm Beach County, is supposed to see low in the 30s and 40s. A cold start to the winter and the coldest Christmas in a while.
What are you expecting and what are your plans for protecting your plants (or not)
What are you expecting and what are your plans for protecting your plants (or not)
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What are the little yellow guavas Walmart sells?
« on: December 17, 2022, 12:48:12 PM »
Those look certainly different from the Mexican Cream that I have which make much larger fruit.
.... but, perhaps there are more than one variety of Mexican Cream
.... but, perhaps there are more than one variety of Mexican Cream
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help me understand what my Mango leaves are telling me.
« on: December 15, 2022, 06:09:25 PM »
Might I suggest you ask your question here https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1001.msg12445#msg12445
Many very experienced members keep and eye on this post and you should get a good response.
While you are waiting for a response, take a look, you might just find your answer (assuming someone might have had the same issue)
Many very experienced members keep and eye on this post and you should get a good response.
While you are waiting for a response, take a look, you might just find your answer (assuming someone might have had the same issue)
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