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If you are not a member of the OC CRFG, they still would like you to bring any fruit tree cuttings to share with the others who bring cuttings for the exchange.

I did get more info in my mail about it. If you bring any cuttings, there's a way they want you to package it and label each bag (see attached). Also if you are dropping off the scionwood you should get there between 9:30-10am, event starts at 10am. Don't bring any cuttings from patented varieties.

Ok, thanks. I may still have some persimmon cuttings to take at that time.
Also, should have some mulberry cuttings to take.

Here's the photos:

It the scion exchange happening at the OC Fair grounds?


No, I did not taste any lemon flavor in the rind of the fruits.

ok, I will try to do a quick comparison. There was no smell of the rind, even when I squeezed it.

I did do my taste test today, will post pictures tomorrow. I tried some fruits I had ripe or available with the Sanbokan and New Zealan lemon, here's my results:

Number 1- best tasting.

1. Sumo (purchased from store)
2. Ponkan
3. Sumo (my fruits)
4. Tango
5. Melogold grapefruit
6. Sanbokan
7. Valencia orange
8. New Zealand lemon

There was not much smell of either the Sanbokan or New Zealand lemon. I could eat the white (internal to rind) of Sanbokan and it had no taste (acid or sweetness). But the New Zealand white of rind had a very mild bitter taste.

I had other fruits but they were not ripe so I will not show them in the taste test.

I have one fruit of each hanging on the tree now so I will take some photos and do a taste test again and give you my 2cents feedback. I like both fruits, Sanbokan is much better (eat out of hand) than any lemons or limes I have tasted, except for the New Zealand lemon.

I decided to try growing more seeds this year so I should have lots of new seedlings of Valentine, Cocktail, Thong Dee, Reinking, and many more. I can always use some of these in a few years for my rootstock. I did find one pummelo seedling tree I have which ended up with much better tasting fruit than the parent tree. Fruits are large (2lbs) and tastes great. The photos above of the seedlings are from this tree.

I have both Sanbokan and New Zealand lemon trees (grafted branches). The New Zealand lemon is much sweeter than Sanbokan. I also like Sanbokan but they do not taste the same.

As for comparing the tree growth/vigor, the Sanbokan is much stronger than the New Zealand lemon. My grafts of the New Zealand lemon grows slowly, Sanbokan probably grows 2x or 3x faster. Fruit production is about the same, Sanbokan fruits are much larger so you don't need as many fruits.

For Sale::

These cuttings are from an old tree, 40+ yrs, planted in my parents yard. Fruits are non-astringent, larger than fuyu or jiro, very sweet, seedless.

I have some non-astringent asian persimmon cuttings for sale:
1. Cuttings are $5 each
2. Shipping, USPS priority mail, $10
3. Cuttings will be 1/4"-7/16" diameter, length 6"-8" long.
4. Only shipping to lower 48 states
5. Paypal payment only, For Friends and Family.

Send me a PM if interested.

I have the right to refuse sale to anyone.

Here's some photos of the fruits and cuttings.

kumin, what does it mean to say the seeds of pomelo will be zygotic?

I grew the seeds from my pomelo fruit and they have a few leaves now, can you tell by looking for the largest seedlings to identify the nuclear/clones ?

tedburn, I have a large Valentine tree, the fruits almost looks similar but the fruits never has the pitam. Most of the Valentine fruits are not as smooth skinned as these, but I will not know until I see some fruits when they are ripe. It should ripen it another month. All of my grapefruit hybrids and pummelos are ripening now. By Feb they should all be ripe.

Here's some photos of my Valentine fruits from last year, they do look almost similar in shape but none has the pitam (never seen this on pummelo or grapefruits).

I hope the fruits turns out to be a pummelo.

Well I have a seedling pomelo that I planted and it fruits now, and that fruit is also bell shaped. It is a pure pomelo, not a hybrid.

Can anyone help me identify this fruit on the tree. It may be a grapefruit or pomelo.

I will not be able to tell what fruit yet, when it is ripe I should be able to taste it.
This fruit is interesting in that it has the pitam (tip) that I don't see in most fruits.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Fruits - Ripe in SoCal December
« on: January 05, 2023, 07:06:05 PM »
yes, very unusual looking, thought it might be interesting to show.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Fruits - Ripe in SoCal December
« on: January 05, 2023, 06:25:41 PM »
Here's my last December fruits. These Satsuma fruits are from an old tree (40yrs) at my parents home. Two trees which usually has 500 fruits on each tree so 1000 total. Way to many fruits to eat so I give them away as soon as they start ripening in December. This group of fruits were unusual in that they were clumped like a cluster of table grapes.

It looks like black sooty mold fungus. If you wipe it with a paper towel it should wipe off. The tree is getting infected with pest infestations that causes this. I have seen it on some trees where it usually is on both the leaves and fruits. Lucky for me none of my citrus trees had this issue, but I have seen it on other people's citrus trees.

You can look up sooty mold fungus online and there are many ways to get rid of the problem. I would not eat those fruits with the mold.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted seed of Dekopon/Sumo/Shiranui
« on: January 02, 2023, 01:01:23 AM »
i think there are 3 sources of these Shiranui budwood that is being sold from the UCR CCPP budwood. I have 2-3 of their budwood types and they seem to have the same type of fruits (either no seeds, or some seeds) on the fruits. So, I have a few grafted branches that has fruits with seeds in every fruit, my other grafted branches have fruits with no seeds in any fruits. I read in an old post that somone grew seeds and when the tree had fruits, most fruits had seeds while other seedling trees were seedless. I did plant 5 seeds from sumo a few years ago and now the plants have grown to about 3-4ft tall, hope it eventually gets some fruit to compare the fruits with the true budwood grafts.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Fruits - Ripe in SoCal December
« on: December 31, 2022, 02:35:20 PM »
Ted, I don't use the Kabosu, just growing it since some people (family) like to use Yuzu and I read Kabosu is similar to Yuzu. The fruit seems to be larger so if the juice can be used for something then it will have more. My Yuzu grafted branches do not seem to get large fruits, maybe 1/2" smaller in diameter than the Kabosu. Also my grafts are not growing well on Flying Dragon so I'm planning to graft more budwood from UCR on another rootstock (alemow). The alemow rootstock I'm growing is super vigorous and it had 3 dozen large fruits this year. Now I have many seeds that I'm growing out.

I was growing Sudachi but the fruits were very small so I got rid of that one. I also have the Oni Yuzu which should get larger fruits than the normal Yuzu but I hear it doesn't have a lot of juice so it might be good for looks like the Buddha's Hand fruit.

No, I don't grow the Vaniglia orange.

The only variety UCR has from their budwood program is the Vaniglia Sanguigno (VI-442) acidless sweet orange. I purchased my budwood from UCR CCPP budwood program.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus germination
« on: December 30, 2022, 11:39:21 AM »
Here's my procedure that seems to work good for me. I don't use heat pad, jut the baggie method.

1) I use coco coir, works the same for my citrus seeds. I soak seeds in water for a few days until the seeds are very clean (rinse/wash each day).

2) Before putting seeds in baggie, spray with diluted peroxide, clean, then put in baggie with coco coir.

3) Watch the bag with seeds, if you notice any mold/fungus, remove all seeds and wash/clean, put back in baggie with new coco coir.

4) Once I see the seeds growing (roots/leaves) then I move it to larger container/pot, put it outside and put screen over the pot so birds/bugs don't eat the fresh leaves/roots.

Pummelo seeds seems to grow much faster than other citrus seeds. I will need to try Ilya11's method with perlite.

If anyone has either of these two white sapote, I'm looking for a few scionwood of each:
1. Fairhaven
2. Sunset

If you want to trade, I have other white sapote or many loquat varieties for trade. Also many mulberry varieties.

I lost 10 varieties from my large seedling tree (multi-grafted) when I transplanted it, it died this year.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Fruits - Ripe in SoCal December
« on: December 29, 2022, 12:57:48 AM »
My largest citrus fruit is the Thong Dee, it was 5 lbs last year. This year I have two large fruits on the same grafted branch and they look about the same size (3-5lbs). I will wait until end of January to pick the fruits again.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Fruits - Ripe in SoCal December
« on: December 29, 2022, 12:47:42 AM »
I picked one Gold Nugget fruit, but it was still not ripe. I will need to wait until end of Jan-Feb before they are ripe here.

Here's the last of my December fruits picked:

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