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UPDATE 4 . . .

Mostly for bovine who's growing in pots, too:

My 'Ice Cream' as of this writing is still holding onto two fruit on two separate infloresences and they are, each fruit, about 3-inches long and looking very healthy.

The other two, 'Irwin' and 'Beverly', did not try to reflower and never did set any fruit this year.

All three mangoes remain in their 7 gallon pots.

OK — HTH

Paul M.
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Water it thoroughly, remove any fallen or dying leaves and keep it in a shady area while it rehydrates and recovers from its traumatic travels in a pitch black box.

Also as you mentioned there seem to be spidermites, be sure to hose the leaves off gently, hitting both upper and lower faces.  Doing so will help discourage the spidermites.

When you notice new leaves emerging you can gradually start to lightly water your tree.  Just don't keep it real wet.  You can increase watering once it has made new leaves.  Once it seems to have recovered you can gradually move it into brighter light and eventually into more sun.  Just don't do that too quickly so as to give the tree time to acclimate to the extra light.

Just as a matter of curiosity which red cultivar did you buy?

Cheers!

Paul M.
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CONF PM SENT

PM
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Hi Vincent,

PM sent.

Paul M. -  in Tampa
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Battle with the June beetles
« on: April 28, 2021, 02:31:29 AM »
Try this . . . .

Hang an electric lightbulb near the tree/fruit and place a wide, shallow bowl below it about eight inches.

Fill the bowl with water and add a few drops of dish soap.

At dusk turn on the light.

You won't catch all the junebugs but a lot of them.  The soap will ensure that they get wet and sink and drown.

In the morning empty the dish and refill it with more soapy water and leave the bulb on again the next night.

Should put a hurtin' to the junebug population in your yard.

OK — HTH

Paul M.
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606
So then, Rob, where do green sapotes best thrive?  Is 9b not one of those places?

Are there any selected varieties of P. viridis that do thrive in 9b?

Enquiring minds and all that rot . . . .

Saludos . . . !

Paul M.
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As Pouterias go how do these stack up for ease of culture in 9b and
for quality/flavor of fruit?:

Ross  /  Butterscotch  /   Alano  /  etc.

VS

Pouteria viridis

Just curious.

Paul M.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Only have room for one Pouteria
« on: April 27, 2021, 07:42:55 PM »
which is better?

I must admit to that same question:  Which is better?  (And why?)

Paul M.
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609
That’s more of a deterrent to keep the rodents away.

Nah!  Nepeta cataria is catnip, doancha know?  So it should actually attract more cats right to the area of the banana if the catnip is planted close-by. 

Now tell me, if you will: What self-respecting rodent is going to wanna be anywhere near around where there's a bevy of frolicking, intoxicated cats???

Still just sayin' (and a tad late for April Fool's Day) . . . .

Paul M.
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Plant some Nepeta cataria nearby.

That ought to do the trick!

Just sayin'

Paul M.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango bloom again!
« on: April 22, 2021, 12:53:54 PM »
Since two of my three 'condo' mangoes did bloom but set no fruit yet are large enough to carry a few fruit can they be pushed with a small shot of fertilizer (or what?) to encourage a rebloom?  These two mangoes are 'Beverly' and 'Irwin'.

Happily the third one is 'Ice Cream' and of the ten fruit that it originally set it's holding onto three which are now more than an inch in diameter!

Any advice for me about those first two mangoes that did not set fruit to maybe encourage them to rebloom?  All are in 7g pots.

TIA

Paul M.
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Order arrived today, very prompt! 

Seedlings were in tiptop condition, thanx!

PM
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Thanx for the very helpful replies.  Much appreciated.

Sounds like in addition to plenty of moisture provided –especially in a sandy soil situation, that mulching the area over the root run would be advisable to help keep the soil moist.  And also irrigating the plant when it is hot a dry before our rainy season kicks in....

I also get the sense that the mulch probably should be kept clear of the sabará's trunk at the base.  Does this sound about right?

Cheers!

Paul M.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Problem with 'Sabará' – need advice!
« on: April 22, 2021, 01:00:39 AM »
A sabará was received in late summer of 2020 in a three gallon pot and was about two feet tall and a foot and a half in diameter.  Seemed perfectly healthy and grew new leaves so no concerns with it.

Suddenly early in March all its leaves dried up and turned a light brown but did not fall from the plant which always seems a bad sign.  Only a few very tiny green leaves remained at the tips of some of the branches.

Then I began to water it more and in about two weeks all the dead leaves began to drop and new leaves started to grow.  Now the sabará is all lush and green again.

So..... 

Is this typical of sabará during winter time?

Should it by now –closing on a year after its receipt– be moved up into a five gallon pot?

I want to put it into the ground but don't know how large these get in zone 9b in Florida, especially in my sandy soil.

Suggestions, please & advice . . . .

Paul M.
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Thank you all yeah I dug most of it out

Don't trust that you got it all out.  Keep checking every so often and if you find any new leaves of the Oxalis reëmerging in that same area you will want to dig out and sift the soil where these new leaves are to get any remaining bulbs.

Goood Luck!

Paul M.
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If its Oxalis, watch out for the exploding seed pods, they are like frag grenades, you will find them growing 20' from the original plant everywhere

True, if it's Oxalis then it's time to wage war on it!

You can pull the leaves out but there will usually be a little bulb left in the ground which will just regrow more leaves. 

To get the bulbs, too, I try to loosen the soil a little around where an Oxalis plant is growing and then gently pull on the leaves.  Often the bulb will then come out attaached to the base of the leaves.

If you can get the bulb out then be very careful because the bulb can shatter into tiny bulbils each of which will grow back into another Oxalis plant.  To be sure the bulb is destroyed, I throw the bulbs on the sidewalk and grind them into mush under my shoe.

Oxalis however is susceptible to RoundUp if you are comfortable with using that in your yard. You may need repeated applications to finally completely kill them off.  But if you don't they'll just keep coming back.

Fingers X-ed!

Paul M.
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Thanx to all for your replies offering your first-hand experiences.

Will make growing this interesting species seem even more promising.

And as to the mentioned tartness or sourness of the fruit, surely there are
certain individuals which produce fruit that is less tart than others, plus if the
fruit is too tart one can easily add a drop or two of Stevia to it.

Cheers!

Paul M.
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Thanks Peter.

Hopefully one of our TFF members who lives in or is familiar with the area(s) where
G. hombroniana is native to will chime in with something to resolve my question.

Fingers X-ed!

Paul M.
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It is so sour. 4 is definitely plenty.

Apart from the flavor, thanx for the reply, but that nowhere answers my question: 
Is this species strictly dioecious???

Anyone know fer sure?

Paul M.
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Just ordered several seedling of this species.  So, were four seedlings enough? 

I recently read that this species is dioecious but am now wondering whether the species is strictly so, or whether some individuals produce perfect fowers –or maybe in some casses produce flowers of each sex together on one individual?

Enquiring minds and all that rot.

TIA

Paul M.
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WTB 3 ea. if still available — PM sent

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pineapple Anonna setting fruit . . . .
« on: April 19, 2021, 03:36:28 AM »
Got this thing from TT in Nov.'20.  It was in a 1 gal. pot.  In early March it got moved up into a 3 gal. pot and was shortly put out into more sunlight.

Now after about six weeks in the larger pot I discovered that it has set half a dozen fruits which are already the size of a marble.  The 'tree' is closing on three feet tall.  Had no idea that these could be so precocious.

Hopefully it will hold some of the fruit and I'll get to try them.  Of course they may be unsatisfactory as others on here have warned that this may just be a yellow-fleshed A. glabra and not especially tasty, but we shall see.

I also have an A. montana which is still in a one gal. pot, also from TT.  Guess it may also benefit from being moved up into a three gal., but will it fruit?  If a move into a larger pot encourages it to do so will let you know.

Cheers!

Paul M.
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[snip] Passion fruit vines are powerful growers that can climb up to cover entire trees. I have seen the photos from the Caribbean islands. [snip]

This is quite true! 

I had a P. edulis v. flavicarpa in a 5 gal bail bucket that I started growing underneath a 'Duncan' grapefruit tree that was more than 50 years old and about 25 feet tall.  That P. edulis rooted out the drain holes into the ground and then aggressively vined up into the grapefruit tree and quickly covered the top of its canopy, which nearly killed the grapefruit tree.

Had to sacrifice the passion vine to save the grapefruit tree which then took about three years to fully recover!

Paul M.
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I'm sure that what you are intending will work to plant the passion vine.

But how will you be able to water and fertilize it satisfactorily since the roots will want to spread out under the asphalt quite a distance beyond the diameter of the hole you wlll be making for the vine?

Just wondering . . .

Paul M.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit in Exuma?
« on: April 12, 2021, 01:54:22 AM »
Exuma is long and narrow.  I'd be surprsed if there was a plant nursery there, but one never knows.

It might be useful to contact the Tourist Bureau in Nassau and ask.

Meanwhile to get a sense for what fruits you are likely to encounter in Bahamian gardens see if you can find a copy of

FIFTY TROPICAL FRUITS OF NASSAU 
by Kendal & Julia Morton; pub. Text House, Coral Gables, Fl., 1946 (hardcover)

OK — HTH

Paul M.
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