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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« on: July 14, 2017, 08:52:09 PM »
Where is the best place in S. FL to procure Zill mangos?

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Hi everyone,

So I started planting up my property here on St. Croix a couple years ago.  Started with raw land and carved out areas by hand with machete and chainsaw.  We started with grafted mangos and avos, guavaberry, carambola, tangerine, and lots of dwarf coconuts and along several other species available here on island.

Lately I have really gotten into buying seeds from forum members here and also a recently placed order with Fruit Lovers.  So now I have several Pitanga seedlings, Sabara, the Boca Snob Jack fruit, Miguel's 'Neylita' Jabo, Mangosteen, Blue Jabo etc etc etc.  Its such a rewarding feeling seeing those seedlings pop up through the dirt!  I know I will have to wait 10 years or more on some of these but that's ok I'm still in my early 30's  8).

Fighting the urge to buy more more seeds ;D  I have a dream of one day having this great variety of fruit trees with lots of rarities that no one on St. Croix has- much less even heard of.  I am also germinating more seeds of each species than I will be able to plant so hopefully can recoup some seed costs in a few years as they mature.

Until then, does anyone have any tips on how to maintain my growing collection?  I am starting them all on a covered lanai with a few hours western sun exposure before it sets in the evening.  I am having good success with germination.   As the seedlings grow and mature, I re-pot them into bigger pots and move them outside to my "nursery".  The nursery is a table under some large Moringa trees which provide dappled sunlight and also drop their blossoms into the pots which seems like it could be beneficial.  I have a worm inn and put the vermicompost on top every couple weeks.  Besides re-potting when it seems they need it, providing adequate water, and topping off with vermicompost, is there anything else I can do to ensure vigor and health? 

As my collection grows, I will start segregating like species together since they will start to have different needs.  I sort of fantasize about the idea of having a small rare fruit nursery one day and be able to offer these hard to come by species to other residents of St. Croix.  Any tips on how to do this are much appreciated!

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This is a very interesting discussion.  I live next door on the island of St. Croix.  I am reading this thread and taking notes.  I have one acre for now, looking to acquire another acre next to my existing property.  The area I am located is such that there is additional land beyond the two acres that I could utilize and no one would know the difference.

The big issue for me as pineislandgrower alluded to is lack of freshwater.  This is not really a problem on Puerto Rico.  However, I just built a 35,000 gallon cistern and have a very prolific well right next to he cistern.  The cistern is divided into two compartments.  One will be strictly rain fed from the house I am currently building.  The other will be rain fed and then mixed with the well water which is about 2000 PPM tds.  My employment for the past 10 years or so has been in the reverse osmosis field so I would maybe one day add a small RO unit to remove the TDS from the well water before going to storage in the cistern.  I would like to use the brine for growing spirulina and see that as a huge potential industry here.  The Rastas and health community love their spirulina and there are no local sources for this.

I think the big thing that Caesar and I and any other aspiring farmers on isolated islands need to consider is what can we grow that is not currently being offered to the market.  This has already been stated earlier in this thread but I believe is the most significant consideration.  The climate, rainfall, and soil conditions will impact what one can potentially grow.

At the last agriculture fair we had here, which is an awesome event and well attended by other Caribbean farmers, there was a stand with black sapote.  They had other things on offer but looked like they were really focusing on the chocolate pudding fruit.  There was a lot of interest at their stand and they seemed to be doing well. 

Another consideration for small farmers is value added crops.  For example, right now our island is awash in mangoes.  Everyone and their brother has a mango tree with excellent fruit.  I would put St. Croix at the top for mango production in the Caribbean, its insane how many we have sitting on the ground going to waste right now.  The same is true during Avocado season.  Taking this abundance and producing something to sell at market that costs more than the fruit itself and keeps for longer would be a great way to utilize the excess. 

Some friends of mine recently started a small CSA.  There are others here, but where they are setting themselves apart is with social media.  Posting pictures of their offerings with awesome backdrops and captions.  Very well done and professional looking.  They combine this with offering a menu of different things that can be prepared with whatever they are offering that week.  Then throughout the week they will prepare the items off this menu and post pictures.  Pretty cool idea and seems to be working well for them.

The social media aspect is one that should not be discounted.  Social media is not going anywhere and not only is it free advertising, but it gives farmers a way to showcase their crops, their farms, and what makes their efforts unique.  I have been practicing this on a small scale with just my friends on Instagram but I have noticed when I post pictures of fresh pineapples I have grown, or the latest cassava harvest we had, the response is very positive and people I don't even know start commenting and following my feed.

Not sure what I have said here helps at all, I am a rookie when it comes to all of this but I love growing things and if that passion is there, why not try to make a few bucks with it.  After making a few bucks and improving techniques, perhaps it can support me and my family full time.

Caesar, check out organicfarm.net


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Don Ramon Avocado?
« on: June 20, 2017, 09:52:38 AM »
Thanks John.  I emailed the Ebay seller and this is what they said:

"Don Ramon variety has this name because a local farmer make this variety by mixing hass and butler. The fruit is more related to butler but with bigger fruit."

So is sounds like this could be a good one, I am very excited to get my first Avos off this tree, its been growing very well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anyone heard of Don Ramon Avocado?
« on: June 20, 2017, 06:22:53 AM »
Hi everyone,

I ordered a grafted Avocado from Puerto Rico with the name Don Ramon.  I ordered it from a place called Proganics.  I can;t seem to find much info on the interwebs, hoping you experts can help me out here and tell me a little more about the variety.  Here is the link to anther one for sale:

www.ebay.com/itm/GRAFTED-Organic-Avocado-Aguacate-plant-by-Prorganics-/152473647479?hash=item2380233977:g:5OkAAOSwNSxVLaka]

What other varieties would do well here in St. Croix?  I also have Russell and Semil 34.

Thank you!

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I am very interested.  What is the difficulty in germinating these and do they come true to seed?

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Thanks Sedation.  I had sent him a Pm a couple weeks ago but never heard back.  He seems like a busy guy and hard to get a hold of.  Love his posts on this forum though!

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I grabbed a couple of Fijian Dwar/Samoan coconut trees from someone from the South Florida Palm Society who was helping with a membership drive at the USDA research center. think they were $25 each. You might want to try contacting them to see if you can have one shipped, or if they can direct you to someone who can. Pretty sure these are the real deal. Good luck!

I bought my original "Fiji Dwarf" from someone from the South Florida Palm Society and it ended up not being the correct thing. I think the person was actually a past president too if I remember correctly.

I would stick with Romney Farms because they keep everything isolated and then they are able to tell if it's correct based on the color of the growth.
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What should the color of the growth be.  The one I had ordered from Hawaii has orange on the rib of the fronds.  This is what makes me think its not a true Samoan/Fiji.  I think the rib color should be green if it was true right?

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Hello everyone,

I am a coconut aficionado.  I have many colors and varieties.  Someone from Hawaii sent me a "Samoan" but its looking more like a tall as it grows so I am thinking it got cross pollinated with a tall and will not be a true Somoan dwarf.

If anyone has any or knows where I can obtain a Samoan aka Fiji dwarf coconut, I would be much obliged.

I am also looking for a brown dwarf.  This would complete my collection (except for a macapuno).

Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Music to plant your Mangoes by
« on: June 13, 2017, 09:18:39 AM »
If you like reggae there are a ton of great songs the Rastaman dem sing praising what can be grown in the earth:

Louie Culture and Mikey spice Grab ya Lass:

https://youtu.be/nuyMTucNaGU






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I am very interested.  How hard are these to germinate?

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I planted some moringa trees to try this and I have a bunch of pineapples planted behind them and then other in full sun.  The pineapples getting shaded by the moringa are all producing so it seems to work well.  I also cut down the branches whenever I fgeel they are getting to big and use place them around the fruit trees and raised beds I have made.  After a few days the leaves have fallen off and the branches can be removed.

I also planted Inga Eudilis which is a Puerto Rican Ice cream bean for the same purpose.  I believe they are nitrogen fixers and as they grow I will cut them back and use for mulch on raised beds I made for growing various vegetables.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mangosteen seedlings just arrived
« on: June 06, 2017, 09:09:50 AM »



mangosteen seedlings just arrived. so excited!

Where in Puerto Rico did you order from?  I live next door on St. Croix and would love to order some seedlings!

Thanks

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Please come to St. Croix where I live if you want to see old trees!

We have tons of huge Mango, Tamarind, Mahogany, West Indian Locust, Saman, Tibet, Baobab and more.  I have a mango tree in my backyard that is at least 100 years old with a 2' diameter trunk.  Produces very sweet fiberless mangos and its impossible to keep up with when it starts dropping fruit. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fertilizer's that sweeten fruit
« on: June 06, 2017, 08:57:29 AM »
Here in the Caribbean I mostly irrigate with rainwater from a rain fed cistern.

I have a well also but have not really put it to use yet.  The well water is pretty hard an i would assume high in Ca and Mg although not sure.  Would this be a good source of minerals for my fruit trees? 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Help with ID'ing bananas
« on: June 01, 2017, 11:31:25 AM »
Thanks Pine Islander!  Sending you a PM!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black Ironwood
« on: June 01, 2017, 11:24:47 AM »
Tang I have nothing to contribute except a link
http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Krugiodendron+ferreum

But have to say this looks to be a very beautiful and useful tree thank you for the pics and your experience!

I wonder if this tree could be coppiced succesfully to harvest more wood, does it grow fast?

Unfortunately this tree seems to be quite the slow grower which in my opinion is what adds to its mystique, similar to Lignum Vitae.

 
Hi Tag Tonic

I'm from the Caribbean but have never come across this tree, however, it is written about in Flowering plants of Jamaica (C. D. Adams), which is the bible of plants in Jamaica, as you may already know. I'm very interested in learning more about this tree, in particular you mentioned  'I picked a bunch and am making some different creations with them'. Could you maybe describe the taste and elaborate a little on what you used the fruit to create. I'm trying to gather information on this tree with a view to include it in my plant database at www.iplantz.com Hope you can assist. Thanks in advance

I had not heard of that book.  Will need to add it to my library.   If you don't have:  Tropical and Subtropical Trees: An Encyclopedia (Margaret Barwick) its another awesome one and a great resource!

As for the Black Ironwood, some things I am trying are making a steeped rum kinda like how its done with Guavaberry or Mammmawanna (Mama Juana) here.  I use the local Cruzan rum and add the berries, cinnamon, nutmeg, cardamom, all spice, and honey.  the rum has already changed from a brown to a dark purple and has a lovely fragrance.   Next, I will try to make some jam, maybe this weekend. 

As for the taste of the berries, they are very sweet.  Very strong grape and black berry flavors.  The juice is a dark purple and will color your hands as you eat them.  The local thrushy birds seem to love them and the bees also enjoy their flowers.  The wood is described as strong but brittle.  I can attest to the brittle part.  My son was climbing the smaller one and the branch he was standing on snapped off and he fell to the ground.  Luckily not injured just stunned.  He's like a little Tarzan so he wasn't fazed. 

I'm quite enthralled with this tree, it's really something to behold.  Very pretty with its green foliage and the new growth starts out pink like many other tropical trees.  Knowing that they are slow growers gives me a lot of reverence for the larger ones.

I put some seeds in some soil last night without washing them.  Will see if they sprout.  Also will try washing some and doing the paper towel trick to see how that works.   

By the way, nice website Balaman.  I can see that becoming very useful as the database grows. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Help with ID'ing bananas
« on: May 31, 2017, 05:01:13 PM »
Since I posted in the buy, sell, or trade forum- if anyone is looking for slips or corms of either kind, let me know. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: a few seeds
« on: May 31, 2017, 05:00:20 PM »
PM sent

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black Ironwood
« on: May 31, 2017, 04:50:56 PM »
Greetings everyone,

Have really been enjoying this forum here.  So much information to digest.

I live on St. Croix in the US Virgin Islands.  About two years ago I purchased an 1.5 acre of property at about 100' elevation with very fertile soil.  The raw land was mostly a Genip forest with a nice gut on it.  Guts here are stream beds that flow when it rains heavy. 

My wife an I spent the first year clearing by hand with chainsaw and machete.  Not easy work in the tropics where its hot, lots of difficult vines and thorns to deal with-  don't forget the Jack Spaniard nests you will inevitably slash with the machete and then get swarmed and stung multiple times.  But by clearing by hand we were able to preserve some of the forest and also some really nice trees that were scattered among the genip and tan tan. 

Lignum Vitae is one type of tree that we have in various stages of maturity.  Biggest one is about 12' x 8'.  Lots of slightly smaller ones and tons of babies popping up everywhere.  There are some beautiful mature ones close by so I think the deer eat the seeds and then leave them on our property with their redneck fertilizer (thanks for that lesson on a different thread coconut).

So to finally get to the point of my  thread, there was another type of tree that I had a hell of a time identifying.  Beautiful glossy green leaves that never fade or fall off even in the driest of times, fissured trunk, and this time of year produces a small purple berry that is amazingly good!  I searhced and asked and searched some more but had no luck with a break through trying to identify the tree type.

A friend of mine who runs a survival skills class in the rainforest mentioned that he heard it called ironwood.  With this bit of info, I went back to the interwebs and found a reference to Black Ironwood (Krugiodendron ferreum) and had a epiphany!  That's the tree! Densest wood in the USA (I guess Lignum Vitae doesn't count since its not considered native to FL).    Looks like this Black Ironwood does grow in FL so I'm sure someone on here knows about it.

I know this isn't your typical fruit tree people talk about here on the forum.  But the berry it produces is that good!  I picked a bunch and am making some different creations with them.  If you have ever heard of Guavaberry and Guavabery rum, then you know us folks in the Caribbean like berries we can make intoxicating beverages from.  That's one thing I will try with these.

I am also going to see ho difficult they are to sprout.  If anyone is interested in seeds let me know.  If not for the berries, the tree is really an exquisite specimen when mature. 

http://www.regionalconservation.org/beta/nfyn/plantdetail.asp?tx=Krugferr
















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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Help with ID'ing bananas
« on: May 31, 2017, 04:28:24 PM »
Sorry, meant to post this in the discussion forum.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Help with ID'ing bananas
« on: May 31, 2017, 04:27:26 PM »
Hi everyone,

Checking in from St. Croix Virgin Islands.  I have a banana tree here that I was told is a Bacuba.  I am not 100% sure it is and also having a hard time finding many references to Bacuba on the interwebs.  Attached are a couple pics.  It really is a great variety.  Produces fruit when its about 12' tall.  Good resistance to drought. And the racks it produces...let me tell you are a sight to behold.  60 pund rack is pretty normal and the banans are on average 1.5 -2" in diameter.  Somewhat firm but no fibers and very sweet. 

Any thoughts?

I also have another type that I have no idea what it is.  I'm thinking Burro Banana?  It doesn't start fruiting until about 15' tall.  Produces big racks and the fruits do get sweet but not overly sweet.  They are very firm.  We have never cooked them green but I'm thinking it could be a good type for this.  I attached a couple pics of that one as well.

Bacuba?

Bacuba?

Bacuba?



Burro?

Burro?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: May 30, 2017, 09:35:41 AM »
Hi everyone,

Been reading this forum for about 6 months now.  What an amazing resource this place is. 

I am from FL but now live in St. Croix, US Virgin Islands.  I have a one acre property where I am building my house.  Have planted several fruit plants and trees and all are doing great.  Looking to purchase the neighboring one acre property as well so I can expand my orchard.

Regards,
Matt

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: pineapple plants / plantlets
« on: May 26, 2017, 02:26:55 PM »
I sent you a PM too.  Please let me know if you change your mind and can ship some.

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