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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achachairu question
« on: May 13, 2019, 02:23:07 AM »
Do most people cut one or let them grow together? I feel like cutting one would give the other one more energy to mature into fruiting age. But if you let them grow together is it double the fruit? Only it will take the two shoots growing together longer to mature into fruiting age? Anyone ever done a side by side test? I have two acahachas that have two main shoots and are about the same size so maybe Iíll do a little test and post the results.

the growth habit of the tree is very important , you would not want to put a gwen or a gem on the same tree as a fuerte or hellen there are several sights you can go to that have all the info on all the different avocado varieties

I too have a cocktail tree so it would be helpful if you included a link to the several sights youíre referring to. Thanks.

I have cherry of the rio grande, grumichama, rainforest plum, pitangatuba star cherry, and Zills Dark surinam cherries growing.

Trying to figure out what is the best soil type for these girls? Iíve had a hard time finding anything online.


@ Shane, any fruit on the Achacha? do you have any pix?

I donít think achacha will flower/fruit that fast from seed here, VERY slow growing. Heís most likely referring to his rain forest plum, they can fruit in just a couple years.

Iím convinced itís coffee as well. Bubble burst, bummer.

After comments from senior fruit forum members, speaking more in depth with the friend I got the seedling  from, and researching LOTS of pictures online with the resemblence being spot on to arabica and Bradís coffee plant, the ďrambutanĒ is indeed a coffee plant. Oh well, I guess now Iíll have some tasty coffee beans to look forward to.

I guess when life gives you lemons, make coffee...

Thanks again yaíll.

I just spoke with my friend who I received the tree from. He said it would be really weird if coffee came up in the three places he planted the rambutan seeds, but said its possible given he has a small, fruiting coffee plant growing in his yard. Sorry for the confusion if it turns out to be coffee. I guess only time will tell. Thanks everyone for your opinions.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit tree DNA
« on: May 08, 2019, 03:07:25 PM »
Wish someone would start doing this for tropical and subtropical fruit trees.

That would be great if it was done for tropical and subtropicals. It would probably stop some people in California from renaming everything.

Ya, and a few from Florida...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit tree DNA
« on: May 08, 2019, 11:08:48 AM »
Wish someone would start doing this for tropical and subtropical fruit trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got Macadamia Nuts?
« on: May 08, 2019, 10:55:53 AM »
I have 45 or so macadamias, about 5 are seedlings. The rest are grafted with around 15 varieties.  Some seedlings do well, have good taste, good production, etc.  Some do not.  Lots of time invested in these trees to experience the final outcome as to whether it is a good tree or not.  Some have been cut down (shell does not close completely leaving opening for bacteria/fungal infection...happened twice).  Nuts fall, dry, and are easy to crack.  Fresh nuts are edible, tasting somewhat like coconut, not firm in texture.  Fresh nuts are more difficult to crack as the shell yields to pressure.  Dry, no problem.  A vise, vise grips, hammer works well.  There are special crackers with leverage due to the hard shell.  In no way are they like a black walnut as the round kernal comes out in one piece.  Don't know how or why you would use a dental pick.  Hard shell is a fact, but crack easily if they are dry, or roasted.  A very nice evergreen tree with few pests.  My biggest problem is tree rats that also enjoy the nuts being able to gnaw into the shell when it is soft.  Screened (for birds) rat traps in the trees are effective.

Thanks a lot for all the info Jack, much appreciated! Looks like Iíve got some Vegas odds to deal with on these seedlings. Happy growing mate.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need fruit ID please and thank you
« on: May 08, 2019, 10:35:49 AM »
Pictures of seeds and better pictures of fruit. I had no idea there were yellow white sapoteís, is this a white sapote, or different variety of sapote? Iíve never grown sapote but after tasting this fruit Iím going to start!

That's not a rambutan. There is no information on fruiting rambutan outdoors in California because it's very hard to get rambutan to fruit in a greenhouse in California. i don't think anyone has been succesful so far.

Do you know what it is?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need fruit ID please and thank you
« on: May 08, 2019, 12:41:21 AM »
Looking at the fruit hanging on the tree, my guess is Casimiroa edulis.

You the man, just tasted it, sapote for sure, a very tasty one. Thanks Mike!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got Macadamia Nuts?
« on: May 08, 2019, 12:21:08 AM »
Thanks Johnny for pointing that out (seedlings sold as named variety).  One nursery that sells through Home Depot sells macadamias labelled as "Cate".  In the small print on the label it says "seedling".  It is a shame that a professional nursery would sell seedlings with a known varietal name.  After 10 - 12 years of care for that seedling you do not know what you will end up with.  After 12 years and you have poor crops, deformed nuts, etc. then what?  As an experiment, growing out a seedling can be informative, for better or worse.  There is a reason credible nurseries sell grafted trees: predictable results.  A farmer would not make an investment in a grove of seedlings with unpredictable results.  To graft a macadamia requires girdling the scionwood months ahead of cutting to obtain good results.  That little grafted tree will be more expensive than a seedling.  4-5 years later with the grafted tree you should begin to see production.  Double that time with a seedling and add in water and care.  Then what?  Fortunately nurseries do not (yet) sell seedling apples, oranges, plums, etc as named varieties.  It would be easier and cheaper to just plant a seed and label the plant as a Red Delicious, for example. As in most things in life, you make a choice.  A seedling is a bad one.

Ever tasted a macadamia nut from seed Jack? Just curious. Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got Macadamia Nuts?
« on: May 08, 2019, 12:13:05 AM »
I suppose if the nuts are inferior I could graft a true Beaumont, cate, or whatever other cultivar I wanted onto the seedling rootstock, correct?

maybe luc mangosteen

I have 5 Lucs mangosteens growing, while the leaves are similar in shape, lucs leaves are no where near as glossy.

Are you sure that is a Rambutan, and you didn't get your seeds mixed up? It seems to have more of a Garcinia growth habit.

No, Iím not 100% sure, but 99.9%. A buddy of mine, who grows lots of subtropicals, and is pretty educated in the such, ate the fruit and brought back 10 seeds, 3 of which germinated and are all about the same size as the one in the picture.

If thereís someone that grows rambutans out there and is familiar with the look of the tree and would like to chime in, PLEASE do.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A Very Small Fruiting Bush?
« on: May 07, 2019, 06:31:33 PM »
Everything can stay small if you keep em pruned. Grumichama can be shaped into a nice hedge. Good luck mate.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Growing Rambutan in Southern California
« on: May 07, 2019, 06:18:26 PM »
This rambutan has been growing from seed, outdoors (under my patio cover and surrounded by other trees) in Southern California, for approx 3+ years, and seems to be quite happy. The fruit was grown in a mountainous region of Costa Rica.

If anyone has experience growing rambutan in Southern Cali, OUTDOORS AND NOT IN A GREEN HOUSE, please share your experiences. I have not found any information on anyone being able to get one to fruit outdoors here. Thanks.

Nate Dogg

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need fruit ID please and thank you
« on: May 07, 2019, 05:39:26 PM »
Was trying to hold off on cutting it until I figure out what it is. Hereís a picture of the tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need fruit ID please and thank you
« on: May 07, 2019, 12:16:34 AM »
Found this on about a 15-20 foot tree today in my neighborhood. Thereís a very faint, sweet smell to it. Please help me Identify so I donít poison myself by eating it. Thank you kindly.

Nate Dogg

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got Macadamia Nuts?
« on: May 05, 2019, 12:03:49 AM »
Clausen only sells seedlings so it will be a variation of Cate.

Best to buy known grafted varieties in my opinion.

The two Macadamia Trees I have are from Atkins Nursery which sells Grafted Trees.

With Seedling, you take a chance and it takes 7-8 years to come into production.  My grafted trees started producing a small amount of fruit after 3-4 years.


Would be interesting to compare the flavor of my seedling vs your grafted once my trees start to fruit, if youíre game.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got Macadamia Nuts?
« on: May 04, 2019, 11:27:33 PM »
Yep, a better variation! Haha ;) I bought the seedlings a couple years ago when I was still a rookie in this game and didnít understand the whole seedling vs grafted/air layering thing, and of course the sellers didnít ďeducateĒ me. You live and you learn...


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got Macadamia Nuts?
« on: May 04, 2019, 05:42:35 PM »
First year in ground
Bought from Atkins nursery. Dont know cultivar name

Congrats on the flower! Maybe a Cate with the white flower, it seems a lot of nurseryís sell Cateís in SD, I got my Cate from Clausen.

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