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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help my Avocado is dying
« on: August 28, 2018, 02:57:35 PM »
Any other suggestions or is my tree a goner

I really want to keep this tree.  It was my first successful graft.

The pictures below are from one of the leafs on a branch that is wilting.  If this some deficiency that can be cured or some killer desease?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help my Avocado is dying
« on: August 26, 2018, 10:06:19 PM »
That crossed my mind.  I looked very carefully, at both plants, the dead one and the photographed one.  I did not see any beetles, pin holes or white residue.

Doesn't mean it isn't, may be I don't know where to or what to look for  :).
 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help my Avocado is dying
« on: August 26, 2018, 06:17:12 PM »
I had two avocado trees.
Irma and an earlier storm knocked one around.  Twice I had to upright it after it was blown down.
Earlier this year it started to lose leaves and deteriorate and eventually died.
I attributed it to significant root loss due to having been knocked down twice.

My other tree was doing great.  It is an Oro Negro and is holding fruit.
In the last two weeks it has started looking poorly. The leaves are not vigorous and green and are wilting.  Some branches are turning brown and dying back.  This is how the other tree died and I am beginning to think this was not about root damage.

Please take a look at these pictures and tell me if there is any way I can save this tree.





In case it helps, it has been very hot.  Rain has not been unusual, heat has been a factor, it has been very hot and the tree is in full sun.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: M-4 mango scions
« on: August 26, 2018, 11:20:33 AM »
You may have better luck with enthusiasts and hobbyists who will go out and prep a few sticks for you but do not sell and are not set up to sell.
Offer shipping or provide a shipping label and your chances go up since then they are only spending the time to prep the scion for you.
I do have one M4 but cant prep budwood for you this cycle, the plant is young and is only now recovering from being planted next to an aggressive plant that was chocking its roots out.

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Please explain the water trick?

Is this the motion detector that sprays water or something new that I am unaware of?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple question
« on: August 19, 2018, 10:11:40 PM »
Jani, do you know what type it is?

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Its a nice tree and I will keep it till someone takes it, I certainly don't plan to put it in the compost heap.

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Thanks.

I took most of the fruits today.

A family of fat raccoons visited and littered the bottom of the tree with ripe half eaten fruit.  I saw a couple scurrying around from inside the house but they took off (more like rolled along), the last raccoon was still in the three when I got outside.  I gave it a start and it almost fell off the tree.  It scampered down and ran off without its prize.

Looks like nature has determined that the fruits are ready to be picked. 

I left a few on, I am sure they will come back for them.  If not I will have more to pick in a week.

Took the opportunity to harvest some of my Keith too.  The skin was beginning to crack on a few of them.

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Guess I will agree to disagree.  Dir those in the US, many have the opportunity to  taste, just takes the want, effort and cost.

As for tge vidoes, since taste is objective and most people's taatebuds seem to interpret differently, it doesnt tell anyone how they will taste for each viewer or if they will like it.

As for Sulcata's videos, those are a downright joke...but then again the world lives off of youtube and FB and is hypnotized by the internet and believes all they see and hear.


Rob...sounds like we need a bsbullie YouTube channel for mango reviews ....with ripe fruit and a "down to earth" assessment.


That would be darn awesome!

That might not be easy, you'd have to expand Bsb's vocabulary to include praise words.
His hard ball reputation on the forum will be completely shot.  :)
But really, on a more serious note, I might subscribe to such as video if it were a taste off staring several experts from the forum.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What does tropical fruit
« on: August 18, 2018, 10:25:57 AM »
Simple answer, is where they grow or have their origin.  Tropical fruits grow best in the tropics .

For a more complete answer, see below from encyclopedia.com


Tropical and Subtropical
Tropical and subtropical fruits, in contrast with temperate fruits, can be broadly defined as those meeting all of the following criteria: crops that have their origin and commercial growing areas (when such exist) in the tropics or subtropics, plants that are evergreen and perennial, crops with a limited degree of frost resistance, and plants whose growth is practically nonexistent below 50°F (10°C) (with some exceptions according to species and individual age). A distinction between tropical and subtropical is possible if one considers that tropical species are not only sensitive to temperatures below 68°F (20°C) but indeed require a climate with average mean temperatures higher than 50°F (10°C) for the coldest month (Watson and Moncur, 1985, p. 3). Additionally most tropicals require humid environmental conditions. Examples of truly tropical crops are traditional fruits native to Southeast Asia, like mangosteen, durian, and rambutan. A good example of a typical subtropical fruit crop is the cherimoya, which when cultivated in cold subtropical areas may suffer some foliage loss during the winter with regrowth in spring. However, some fruit crops can be cultivated equally well in either the tropics or the subtropics, of which the banana and the avocado are the most outstanding examples.

Strictly speaking, the tropics extend between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, at 23° north and south of the equator. But, agronomically speaking, these boundaries are too rigid. Not only do they contain areas, especially at higher altitudes, that do not conform to the climatic characteristics generally assigned to the tropics, but regions outside this belt have coastal areas or insular climates that may exhibit climatic conditions fitting properly in the tropics. This is the reason why some climatologists have extended the region to the thirtieth parallels (Nakasone and Paull, 1998, p.1). In any event the main feature associated with the tropics is not so much that of heat but rather steady warm temperatures throughout the year. J. A. Samson (1986, p. 1) gave a good working definition of the tropical climate: temperature averages around 80.6°F (27°C), with the warmest month being only a few degrees higher than the coldest and temperature differences between night and day, at any given time, being greater than those between winter and summer, and, finally, little variation in day length, with the longest day being less than thirteen hours long. In comparison, the subtropics have hotter summers and cooler winters. Humidity is also generally lower. Day length differences become greater with increased latitude. The limit for the subtropics is the isotherm of 50°F (10°C) average for the coldest month (Nakasone and Paull, 1998, p. 12).

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7 out of 10 Beverly mango I cut this year had the seed growing with the root out of the husk and in the flesh of the mango.

The fruits were still green when I picked them.  They have been on the plant for a while but still firm to the touch and green.

Did I leave the fruits on too long?  Should I have picked earlier? 

Please share your experience with late season fruits having developed roots in them.

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My findings:

Cherimoya may indeed be a good interstock for bridging pond apple to atemoya.
The success rate is relatively low with White, Priestly and Licia taking and growing.
Unfortunately during the supper wet month of may, the pond apple sat in about 8 inches of water for almost a month.  No problem for the plant itself but a couple of the grafts did not do so well.
Now as we approach the fall, the cherimoya is starting to drop leaves.  The pond apple however is pushing growth.  I don't know what having a part of a tree going dormant while another is in full growth means.  I will see what happens if and when the cherimoya decides to grow again.

I will try the atemoya either during the fall sale or next spring.  I however started some cherimoya from seed on which I will place some of my grafts.  That way, the pond apple experiment will be a bonus if it works out in the long run.

If it is your only option, by all means try pond apple to cherimoya to atemoya.  Otherwise, just get seeds of cherimoya and make yourself a few seedlings.

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PokeExpanding the range

I have business in Naples next week and may also have to pop in to Fort Lauderdale.  So if you are in these areas and are interested I might be able to make it work.

Sill looking for a home for this plant.
Its ready to go into the ground.  Getting large for a 3 gallon pot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / How do you label Choc Anon
« on: August 17, 2018, 12:07:50 PM »
My Choc Anon defied all labels this year.
It had a monster fruit set from 3 different flushes and still has fruits on the tree.
I was having choc anaon with Carrie early in the season.  My Keith and Beverly are coming off the tree and I still have Choc Anon.
Is this typical or an anomaly?

I know some of you don't like the fruit, I thought it was fantastic all year long.  Even early when most fruits were watered down.
Setting what you think about the fruit aside, my question is how long it has been producing.  From May and still with a few fruits on mid August.  Despite the squirrels and birds getting a cut.  Rabbits and Raccoons too.

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Don't kill the neighbors tree.  Prune the part hanging over your yard if you must.  Place the material on his driveway, after all, it's  his tree. The neighbor may take your need seriously after that.

You could also find something your neighbor wants and make him a deal he can't refuse.

11th commandment, Thou shall not kill thy neighbors ox, or his goats, or his trees, especially of the coconut, or his dog, or his cat, or his mango, or his avocado, or anything he keeps that bears tropical fruits.
You can replace kill with smite

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dispute with neighbor about fertilizer
« on: August 16, 2018, 09:20:11 PM »
Much of this is related to big sugar and the flow of nutrients into Lake Okeechobee, and then spreading from there all the way to the coast.   
You are somewhat understandably misinformed.
The sugar fields are south and below the lake level. Nutrient runoff from the watershed above Okeechobee comes down the Kissimmee river into the lake. When the lake fills up the Corps of Engineers opens gates and flushes the lake water down rivers east and west to the coasts.
It's a lot more complicated than that but the sugar farmers are easy targets for certain political interests.

Thanks, spot on.
There are many layers to this issue.  Unfortunately a lot of sound bite political theater as well.

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I rescued an unknown plant last November, identified it on this site as an Ackee.  (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25919.msg302424#msg302424)
It is nursed back to health but I have no space for it in my yard and would like to find it a good home.

Any takers?  Pick ups only please, cant ship.  Its in a 3 gallon pot.  Nice plant.  Will post a picture later.

Going 2

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I rescued an unknown plant last November, identified it on this site as an Ackee.  (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25919.msg302424#msg302424)
It is nursed back to health but I have no space for it in my yard and would like to find it a good home.

Any takers?  Pick ups only please, cant ship.  Its in a 3 gallon pot.  Nice plant.  Will post a picture later.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant ID -. Are these Canistels
« on: August 12, 2018, 01:47:01 PM »
I will check if he also planted cashew around the same time. 
Did not look like the pictures of cashew leaves i have seen online which are more rounded but on close inspection there is what looks like dried small cashew seeds in the pot, might have been the husk of the seed that was planted.


Thanks for the suggestion.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Plant ID -. Are these Canistels
« on: August 12, 2018, 08:33:39 AM »
Got these from a friend who planted seeds a while ago.
He believes they were Canistels.
The leaves do look similar but not the same as a Canistels that I have. 
Can anyone help ID these.
There are 3 plants in a pot, just multiple photos.


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Ditto, looks like the heat did a number on mango too from what I read on the forum.

Do keep posting update. 

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Not prefered but can be done.
Not an expert but I have experienced grafted wood staying alive for months and eventually pushing.
If you can wait a week or two, have the budwood prepped by the seller. 
Pay now so they are assured of the fee.
Have then take off the leafs off the top 6 to 9 inches of the hardened new growth (can leave parts of the leaf stalk but no green leaf)
They can take the cutting in a week to 10 days and that could be the difference between a quick push and a delayed push.

Good luck.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 05, 2018, 03:01:08 PM »
Here are the pictures of the fruits cut.

The large pink fruit was white on the inside.  The taste was sweet.  Much sweeter than the store bought fruits (except the megalantus - golden yellow) .  The next fruit is a very deep purple.  It had a tart component to the taste.  Both are agreeable and I will eat them again.




I am still a mango guy but variety is the spice of life.  For dragon fruit folks who would have wanted a more technical description of the taste, you have to send someone by to taste and report or take a cutting and grow the fruit for yourself :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 05, 2018, 02:37:33 PM »
I picked 4 of them and left the ones showing a little green for later.
The large pink one had stayed on too long.  It was sun burnt or browned on one side and had started going soft.

Here are the 4 I picked.



The large one was much larger than 7 cm across, more like 13 on the long side.
Will talk about the taste if it is deserving :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 04, 2018, 10:16:27 PM »
Unfortunately I don"t know.
I took lots of cuttings from friends when I started down the dragon fruit road, they were unnamed.
I am trying to get them identified now.


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