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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #125 on: December 27, 2022, 01:47:29 PM »
It's often possible to salvage some resinous-tasting pitangas (Eugenia uniflora).  The trick is to let them get full ripe so that if you just touch them they fall off the bush right into your hand, and then collect them in a bowl and leave them, covered, in the 'fridge overnight.  This has the effect of helping to dissapate the resinousness aspect of the fruit.

This will work on some but not all pitangas (Eugenia uniflora), depending, of course, upon how strong the resinousness in a particular cultivar may be.  This is primarily useful for the red-fruited ones. It can be less so for the dark/black-fruited ones which can tend to be less (or not) resinous tasting than the red-fruited ones.

Might be worth a try for our TFF members to see whether their red-fruited variety loses the resinous taste by allowing them to sit in the 'fridge overnight.

[Now this has me wondering whether giving them an overnighting in the 'fridge would work with pitangatubas (Eugenia selloi) which have fairly tart fruit but which might sweeten up slightly after chilling them.]

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #126 on: December 28, 2022, 09:04:59 AM »
I have tasted that increased irrigation during ripening reduces resinous flavor also.

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #127 on: December 30, 2022, 10:52:26 PM »
I personally can't stand them and I'd have rather eaten a few puke flavored papaya. That was BEFORE my neighbor grabbed a few deep black samples from his yard and asked me to try them. I gotta say at least from HIS bush, I'd rather eat his Surinam cherry than a puke  flavored papaya :-)

It's not saying much but the possibility of a dessert Surinam is still a dim possibility.


Gary, my wife discovered a papaya that doesn't taste pukey; like you, she doesn't appreciate strong papaya flavor, so she kept propagating this one that has less sweetness but definitive floral fragrance, fresh "clean" taste, almost like a honeydew. I like very sweet (don't mind musky) papayas and don't care for "her" variety but she really loves it. Next time we see each other I can share seeds if you want.

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #128 on: February 20, 2023, 05:42:00 PM »



This seedling Zill's Dark fruited for the first time a couple months ago and is now loaded with flowers. Fruit were dark and in line with the parent, but what excites me most is that this seedling stands at only 3 1/2' tall.

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #129 on: May 05, 2023, 11:00:29 PM »
Can anyone point me in the direction of where to obtain scions or grafted plants of some of the improved selections (Zill's Dark, Black Star, etc.)? I'm not having any luck finding grafted/rooted plants for sale. Thank you!

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #130 on: May 05, 2023, 11:37:18 PM »
User achetadomestica has zills dark scion for sale in the buy sell trade section right now. 

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2023, 08:01:31 AM »




something new!
Has a milder Suriname cherry taste with no after taste.

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #132 on: May 06, 2023, 10:14:35 AM »




something new!
Has a milder Suriname cherry taste with no after taste.

  mine fruited for first time too. They seem to keep improving in brix. The last one was a brix of 18 and good flavor. I picked it early too, at least I thought i did...


 

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #133 on: May 06, 2023, 10:17:08 AM »
 'Dwarf Orange'


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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #134 on: May 06, 2023, 10:21:25 AM »
'Chica Negra'

A couple people that tried this both thought it had a grape flavor to it. Small fruit like var Dasyblasta and smoother ribs.







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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #135 on: May 08, 2023, 10:06:52 PM »
Interestingly the cold and rainy winter really worked for me. I usually have issues with pitanga leafing and flowering too early and getting destroyed by frost or rain. They are not so happy but are coming back. My big vermillion lived in greenhouse as did the Regina. You can probably tell which those are.
















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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #136 on: May 09, 2023, 11:55:29 PM »




something new!
Has a milder Suriname cherry taste with no after taste.

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #137 on: May 12, 2023, 12:45:25 PM »
I got my first 2 flowers on my black Surinam cherry in 2018 as a small seedling from 9waters. The tree is only about 1 foot tall and was holding a fruit but it got knocked off while moving outside :(. The leaves have no resinous smell which is a good sign. Hopefully it flowers again soon

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #138 on: May 12, 2023, 01:50:14 PM »
My 9waters black-surinam produced a dozen or so fruit last year but has put out almost no flowers this year and no fruits appeared.  Meanwhile, the red type I got at the same time has produced thousands of fruit.  Both trees are same similar size and very healthy, I wonder if this is a fluke or if red is much more productive than black?

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #139 on: May 15, 2023, 12:23:28 PM »
Interestingly the cold and rainy winter really worked for me. I usually have issues with pitanga leafing and flowering too early and getting destroyed by frost or rain. They are not so happy but are coming back. My big vermillion lived in greenhouse as did the Regina. You can probably tell which those are.
















Great pics.  Thanks.  None of my pitanga trees are flowering, but they are pushing new leaf growth.  Is it the same with you? 

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #140 on: September 16, 2023, 02:29:45 AM »


dark fruit. Fruits are big, dark, and sweet (when it is really ripe) with high acidity.    Not much gasoline smell.

Red fruit. It was grafted last year.  Fruits are even bigger, red, and sweet.  Not much gasoline smell.








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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #141 on: September 16, 2023, 02:26:19 PM »
I grafted Marta's red Surinam that has no ridges & is low resin and delicious.
I like a little resin flavor with my Surinam , but this one is highly agreeable and top notch.
It's maybe a Lolita descendent. I think that red with no ridges kind has been in CA for 50+ years.


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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #142 on: September 17, 2023, 01:11:14 PM »
Zill Dark harvested just this morning. Lots of resin, lots of sweetness, a little acidity to give it some balance. I just wished my tree would produce more. I only have about 7 more on the tree.  Seems to be a shy bearer at least for me.



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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #143 on: September 17, 2023, 01:15:58 PM »


dark fruit. Fruits are big, dark, and sweet (when it is really ripe) with high acidity.    Not much gasoline smell.

Red fruit. It was grafted last year.  Fruits are even bigger, red, and sweet.  Not much gasoline smell.








Is your red fruit a named variety? Where did you find it?  Thatís a good looking fruit. Nice size.

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Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« Reply #144 on: September 17, 2023, 02:32:50 PM »


dark fruit. Fruits are big, dark, and sweet (when it is really ripe) with high acidity.    Not much gasoline smell.

Red fruit. It was grafted last year.  Fruits are even bigger, red, and sweet.  Not much gasoline smell.








Is your red fruit a named variety? Where did you find it?  Thatís a good looking fruit. Nice size.


Unknown variety. I got it from exchanging java plum plant for cutting.  The ripe ones are just sweet , a lot of flesh, and jucy.  It is the size of a cherry.

 

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