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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #700 on: November 15, 2021, 03:14:00 PM »
anybody knows the nursery's name in San Diego that sell m. californica?  The pictures that kaz posted about that nursery were deleted.

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« Reply #701 on: November 15, 2021, 03:47:11 PM »
Its the evergreen nursery in carmel valley. 
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« Reply #702 on: November 15, 2021, 10:26:27 PM »

The chickens thought it was something tasty for them... but apparently not too much, fortunately for me.. The seedlings survived, just a bit mangled and new stuff growing out. The other two fared much better.



How are people's seedlings doing here? It sounds an awful lot like most people's seedlings have died?

I haven't lost any seedlings since I started selling them and have about 7 or so still in 4" pots that are doing great.
I'd be curious to hear about mortality rates on these.


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« Reply #703 on: November 16, 2021, 11:51:05 AM »
You guys are doing great.
My only tree gave up last week.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #704 on: November 16, 2021, 01:44:37 PM »
So here's some potentially useful info from my results here in South Florida.

Posting pics of most recently planted (in ground) Biqi tree. While it looks stressed, upon closer inspection you can see that new growth is abound.









My guess is this tree would have died soon if not planted in ground, due to overwatering.

The other tree that died on me, most likely was due to overwatering.

Biqi on this rootstock seems well suited for my high alkaline, limestone soil. More time is needed, but I am encouraged.

The potted seedlings I have are likely not dead because roots fill the pot up, and not much soil to get soaked.

My deductions:

Yangmei is sensitive to root rot in pots (no surprise, Simon already said it).

Yangmei may be tolerant of alkaline soils.

Yangmei wants to be connected to the Earth, put those puppies in ground while you can!







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« Reply #705 on: November 21, 2021, 11:41:56 AM »
Hello everyone, I just wanted to give everyone a quick update and some clarification on something I brought up earlier in this thread.

Earlier in this thread, I mentioned that multiple people in the Facebook Yangmei group had the experience where they planted out DNA sexed male and female trees and that the males tended to grow more vigorously and the female plants usually died out. Based on that information, I hypothesized that the larger and faster growing seedlings I had were probably male trees.

Well, I sent out leaf samples for DNA testing and (thanks Marta!) and found out that I was completely off on my hypothesis. My two larger seedlings turned out to be females and my two smaller seedlings turned out to be males.

I believe that the initial reports from the Facebook Yangmei group that saw males growing faster and more vigorously can be attributed to the females being in bad condition (they were dying) . Since the females were on their way out, they would grow ( more like dying slowly) much slower compared to the males.

This still doesnít explain why females were dying at a higher rate than males however.

This just goes to show that you wonít really know if you have a male or female tree until you have your trees tested. Big thanks to Marta for processing the samples the same day she received them and giving me results immediately!

Simon

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« Reply #706 on: November 21, 2021, 11:49:38 AM »
On a positive note, I now have three confirmed males and another friend has two confirmed males. One of my males is the rootstock on my Biqi which is great news because the rootstock appears to be at least several years old. The male rootstock may already be sexually mature enough to produce pollen where as the seedling trees will probably have to go through their juvenile period and reach a specific size/age before they will be able to produce pollen.

My dream of growing Yangmei to fruition is one step closer!

Simon

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #707 on: November 25, 2021, 03:15:35 AM »
My update. Sad news; 2 potted Biqi plants died, probably my fault, may have sprayed some diluted bleach by mistake. Or maybe over watered them and should have planted in ground sooner as Rob mentioned. Of my 3 seedling plants, only 1 survived so far. Not having much luck on these plants for me. Maybe next time I will learn from my mistakes.

But the good news; I'm thankful that my loquats (70) and white sapotes (28) are doing great, many flowers and should have fruits from the majority of the loquat and white sapote varieties next year.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

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« Reply #708 on: November 25, 2021, 11:09:09 AM »
Hey Simon! Now that is something to be ďThankfulĒ for! I donít need to say this but...AWESOME work on the yangmei trials!!! :) :) :) Some really cool stuff youíre doing man and I congratulate you!!! Please keep the updates coming, learning a lot from you, thank you.

Update on my trees:

Grafted Biqi from the group order is doing great but has kinda slowed down on the growth, probably because of the colder weather, planning to plant it in the ground next week.

My first three seedlings all died after attempting to transplant into bigger pots, I believe I used too much mycorrhizae on the roots when transplanting, I mean they were dead by that evening, very sensitive, Iíve never had seedlings die after transplant and mycorrhizae, at least not that fast.

After the loss I got a couple more and Nate (Wildlands plants) was super kind in hooking up a nice size seedling, and now all three of those are thriving inside an unheated hoop house thatís under the patio cover, and up against the house. I also have a bowl of water in there for some humidity. I up potted them all to one gallons, without mycorrhizae, and they didnít skip a beat.

Slow and steady is the way to go with these guys...

Ps nice meeting you at the fruit tasting party Simon! ;) It was nice talking with you.
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« Reply #709 on: November 25, 2021, 11:51:21 AM »
Happy Thanksgiving yangmei lovers!

Sorry to hear of your losses Kaz. You must try again! Hopefully the m. cerifeira grafts go well, happy to send you one in the future if successful.

Simon continues to blaze the trail. The yangmei code is being cracked.

Updated pic of Biqi in ground (not same tree as post #704, this was first one planted in ground):





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« Reply #710 on: November 25, 2021, 12:11:49 PM »
Looks like its growing nicely now Rob.  Mines looking about the same.  But its getting hammered in a really strong santa ana wind today.   :'(   could hardly sleep last night, it felt like my house was going to blow away. 
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« Reply #711 on: November 25, 2021, 12:52:28 PM »
Nice looking tree Rob! That thing is nice and green

Whatís up Brad, please give an update in a week or so, Iím really curious to see how your tree handled these stupid winds
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« Reply #712 on: November 25, 2021, 02:11:51 PM »
Rob, your biqi plant looks really nice, good job. The santa ana winds are very strong here the last few days. It blew my alumimum 6 ft A-frame ladder down and also blew off my American flag (5 ft) off the holder and was in my yard.

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« Reply #713 on: November 25, 2021, 02:31:54 PM »
Simon did you get the trees from the group order sexed as well?
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« Reply #714 on: November 27, 2021, 04:21:41 PM »
Thanks everyone,
Nate, the grafted portions of the group buy trees are female but I do have one rootstock coming out of my Biqi tree and it is at least 3 feet long and yes, I got it DNA tested and it is a male.

If I plant this tree into the ground, I could potentially get fruit in a couple years, maybe sooner.

Simon


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« Reply #715 on: November 27, 2021, 04:24:20 PM »
Happy Thanksgiving yangmei lovers!

Sorry to hear of your losses Kaz. You must try again! Hopefully the m. cerifeira grafts go well, happy to send you one in the future if successful.

Simon continues to blaze the trail. The yangmei code is being cracked.

Updated pic of Biqi in ground (not same tree as post #704, this was first one planted in ground):






Rob, your in ground Biqi looks great, it appears itís establishing well and the new growth looks healthy.

Simon

 

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