Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone

[simon_grow]

Brad, that’s awesome you have them adapted to full sun. I bet the roots are growing out so hopefully it’ll take off next year once it gets more established. Thanks for the picture!

Simon

[spaugh]

I had a shade on it most of summer and just ditched the shade a few weeks ago since it seems like the worst of it is over.  Although it was 0% RH and 92F and super windy here a few days ago and it took pretty well. 

I put a few chicken turds on it today and will start fertilizing more in spring, it should take off next year. 

[simon_grow]

Here’s a quick update of my original Biqi from the group buy. It’s quite big now and I should have up potted it a long time ago but I’ve been too busy so it’s been stuck in a #5 pot for much too long. I finally up potted it this week. The entire pot was completely jam packed with roots so I had to carefully untangle roots that were beginning to circle and also cut some roots. Hopefully it doesn’t shock the plant too much. Here’s the rootball
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And here’s my Biqi tree
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Simon

[spaugh]

Its a monster! 

[bill_bayarea]

Hi Simon,
  Thank you for all the info you posted in this thread. I live in the SF bay area and  new to the Yangmei tree planting, but I am very interested in this topic. You were talking about the grafting technique by
using  M Californica. Is it Myrica Californica tree? How big of plant of Myrica Californica did you use for grafting? Are they all growing well now?

 Best regards,
 Bill
 

My approach graft of Biqi onto M Californica seems to have calloused over the best. The union is completely formed and the swelling has started to burst the Buddytape.

I will soon begin making incremental cuts on the Biqi rootstock and M Californica top in order to gradually decrease dependence on the portion of the plants that I will eventually be severing.







Simon

[ScottR]

Nice job Simon, you've diffidently got roots that's for sure glad some folks got them to grow concrats

[pinkturtle]

Is there any chance we can do this again?  I missed the last one.

[simon_grow]

Hello Bill,

yes, I was successful grafting Yangmei onto Myrica Californica now Morella Californica. I was successful grafting onto small plants in quart containers and large plants in 5 gallon containers.

Simon

[simon_grow]

Nice job Simon, you've diffidently got roots that's for sure glad some folks got them to grow concrats

Thanks Scott! It was tough but I think I’m starting to figure this plant out. I ran a bunch of experiments and sacrificed many plants in the name of science but I’ve got it pretty well dialed in now. I’ve been super busy taking care of sick family members and haven’t grafted any more plants recently but the ones I grafted earlier are doing great.

I will probably put a plant or two up for auction in the near future.

Simon

[roblack]

You rock Simon!

I have 2 Biqi in ground, and one of Nathan's seedlings next to one of them. 2 of Nathan's seedlings in pots still.

The first Biqi planted in ground looks best. The other is stressing, but has new growth.

Lost one Biqi after a bottom fell out of a rootsaver pot while moving it. Surprised it died, wasn't that bad of a mishap imo.

Going to try granting to m. cerifeira in the spring.,

[simon_grow]

Hey Rob, that’s great news! New top growth with fully expanded leaves is a good sign that the roots are expanding as well. The Chinese Yangmei rootstocks seem very vigorous so far. I’m still waiting to see if any of my trees spontaneously dies but everything is looking good so far.

How is Nate’s in ground seedling doing so far? Have you noticed any new growth?

Now that I’m familiar with grafting onto M. Californica, my next focus will be to graft onto M. Cerifera. I already have a bunch of rootstocks growing out and much of the knowledge gained when experimenting with M. Californica should translate over to the Cerifera rootstocks. From talking with people on the Yangmei Facebook group, Cerifera should be even easier to graft and grow.

Some small M. Cerifera rootstocks sizing up for my next set of experiments.


Simon

[simon_grow]

I posted my first “Biqi” Yangmei grafted onto Morella Californica up for auction for those that were asking. Please see this link if you are interested.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=45663.0

Simon

[spaugh]

I bid 5$ 

[roblack]

No new growth/not much on Nate's seedlings, either in ground or in pots. Initially saw some, but they appear to have slowed. Things have cooled down here a bit lately.

Definitely think they do better in ground. Interesting, we have high soil ph here and lots of limestone. Might be part of reason why mine aren't going crazy like yours Simon, but they appear to be acclimating. Think its going to work out.

Congrats on getting plants ready for eBay sale! Exciting.

Lmk when you throw up a DK, An Hai, or one of the other ones (DK/BP?).

[simon_grow]

I bid 5$ 

Come on man, at least $6.00. Don’t be a cheap skate, lol!

Simon

[simon_grow]

No new growth/not much on Nate's seedlings, either in ground or in pots. Initially saw some, but they appear to have slowed. Things have cooled down here a bit lately.

Definitely think they do better in ground. Interesting, we have high soil ph here and lots of limestone. Might be part of reason why mine aren't going crazy like yours Simon, but they appear to be acclimating. Think its going to work out.

Congrats on getting plants ready for eBay sale! Exciting.

Lmk when you throw up a DK, An Hai, or one of the other ones (DK/BP?).

Rob, I believe the pH affects of the limestone may be detrimental to the overall health of the trees. Maybe add some Sulfur to gradually bring down the pH.

I may have an An Hai up for auction in the near future.

Simon

[roblack]

Will keep my $5 handy!

Sulfur will probably help, thanks.

The tree that has been in ground longest looks the best. So I think/hope they are acclimating to the limestone.

[nattyfroootz]

I'm considering planting out a bunch of my Yangmei and Myrica esculenta into the ground. I've got a 15g male and a 15 g female as well as the grafted BIQI, that is nowhere near as awesome as Simon's.  I also have a handful of seedlings.

I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts on planting going into fall or planting come spring. 

It's definitely fake spring right now and all my Myrica are pushing.

[roblack]

This Biqi was planted a while back. Didn't do much for a while, but is active now. Hope the cold front doesn't shut it down. Several m. cerifeira in the background, for grafting in the spring.

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[simon_grow]

I'm considering planting out a bunch of my Yangmei and Myrica esculenta into the ground. I've got a 15g male and a 15 g female as well as the grafted BIQI, that is nowhere near as awesome as Simon's.  I also have a handful of seedlings.

I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts on planting going into fall or planting come spring. 

It's definitely fake spring right now and all my Myrica are pushing.

From the research I’ve done, it may be best to plant the trees into the ground sooner rather than later. Some people on the Facebook Yangmei page suggested that the in ground plants did better and specifically for seedlings, the males performed better than the females.

Simon

[simon_grow]

This Biqi was planted a while back. Didn't do much for a while, but is active now. Hope the cold front doesn't shut it down. Several m. cerifeira in the background, for grafting in the spring.

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Today

Rob, your plant looks great! I’m sure we will get a male out of some of the seedlings we got from Nate. Hopefully we can get some fruit in a couple more years.

Simon

Simon

[roblack]

Thanks Simon!

I totally agree that most people will fare better with yangmei IN GROUND. Especially people like me, who like to water their plants.

Was worried about my limestone soil. Shoud've been more worried about my hose.

[spaugh]

My biqi tree that has been in ground for a few months now is taking the heat and low humidity fine here.  Its been in the mid 90s and humidity has been 0 for several days in a row with santa ana wind and the tree looks fine getting all day sun.  Its been flushing nicely. 

[nattyfroootz]

How are people's seedlings doing here? It sounds an awful lot like most people's seedlings have died?

I haven't lost any seedlings since I started selling them and have about 7 or so still in 4" pots that are doing great.
I'd be curious to hear about mortality rates on these. 

[roblack]

All of my seedlings are still alive. 1 in ground and 2 still in the 4 inch pots you sent them in.