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New special offer: free shipping for jaboticabas at 50,100,150,200,300,400,500 seeds! New 2021 varieties: peruvian, serrana.

For updated prices and species, please see: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ba0iLzeia6R2Wry1IZd8RABU25il08_JTFhH158nTmA/edit#gid=0

I had to open a new Topic on the forum: I cant edit the last one. (26/9/21)
This is my new place in the forum, the last one was very old, outdated and impossible to update.
Historical post on the forum: https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=26501.0

Fruit photos:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPzDc4eRPkRVQwkF8Eukkj47DGJDQhMi0iLy-QIaiUnEnzrPCU1pGTlGH97fXJuMg?key=bkd4TUlhZzdCT3FhQjBHZnh1bXR6MWNqTDFzOW1n

Paying method: PayPal / mail: marcospcmusica @ gmail , com

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Some photos and descriptions:

Best jaboticaba season is October to April.

* (sep 2021). Jaboticaba de Campo Ramón (Plinia sp.) . Wavy elongated leaves. Fruits are up to 3.5cm diameter, very good sweet taste (It has tones of maraschino cherries). This kind of jaboticabas use to grow faster than sabará and other species, they resist at least -5º or -6ºC frosts (21º F) I tested 5 feet tall trees at my parents weekend house in the last winter at -6ºC (21º F). The mother tree is 25 years old and started bearing at just 5 years old at Misiones!, (that's what the collector said, they take special care of the tree because its early bearing feature)

5 seeds USD 18 | 10  seeds USD 32 | 12  seeds USD 39 | 20  seeds USD 60 | 30  seeds USD 85 | 40  seeds USD 110

Free shipping!: 50 seeds USD 130 | 100 seeds USD 230 | 150  seeds USD 310 | 200  seeds USD 360






*(November!) Guaporetí (Plinia rivularis), amazing fruit taste! jaboticaba+peach+banana, one of my favs.



5 seeds USD 18 | 10  seeds USD 32 | 12  seeds USD 39 | 20  seeds USD 60 | 30  seeds USD 85 | 40  seeds USD 110 | 80  seeds USD 190 | 100 seeds USD 230 | 160  seeds USD 300 | 200  seeds USD 360








Some nice species:


Amazing stock on rare Annonas:

* Araticú #1, smaller


* Araticú #2, bigger


* Araticú #3, elongated



* Araticú 4, Rougher skin, (new)


* Big Araticú Eldorado


* Araticú da praia (Annona parviflora)







The rare Psidium collection pack is here! All these amazing species for USD 120 including shipping cost.


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Among our native fruit trees we can find several species of the Psidium genus that provide excellent tasting fruits with exceptional nutritional properties. These are rustic trees that appreciate the sun, good irrigation and resist, in different degrees, frost, wind, ponding and drought. The ideal temperature for germination is between 20º C to 27º C (68ºF/80ºF), so it is recommended, in cold weather, germinate inside the home (after soaking for 24 hours), take care of them near a window and bring seedlings outdoors in autumn / winter to a greenhouse with half shade or during the spring in the shade. Then they should get used to the morning sun or half shade. When they exceed 25cm in height we can give them full sun. It is advisable to water abundantly during the flowering and fruiting season. They usually produce their first fruits between 3 and 5 years old.
 


* (next stock: feb 2022) Ñangapiré negro (Eugenia repanda) March 2020. First fruiting. Fruit tree native to the La Plata River Basin in danger of extinction ... Unjustly endangered given its beauty and good taste similar to cherries / plums, as a special feature it supports the shade very well and can bear fruit in that condition . Resists -7ºC. Little stock for now, just 20 seeds! We will have more in 1 month.

5 seeds USD 14, 10 seeds USD 26


Very tasty and rare arazás are starting to ripe here! this is the Psidium season

* Arazá serrano (Psidium longipetiolatum) (feb-march 2020)  Very rare psidium, similar to strawberry guava but hardy to -7 or -8º C, bigger leaves and taller tree. I like it more than strawberry guava: deeper citrusy taste, the skin is harder. This is my favourite Psidium now along with P. robustum and hybrid Psidium; it has stronger taste. Climate: tropical, subtropical, temperate.

5 seeds, 10 USD ||| 10 seeds, 19 USD ||| etc.








* arazá pera! Very good fruit, one of the best Psidium I know. Cold hardy small plants from Misiones, Argentina.


5 seeds usd 8, etc.


Name                          Scientific name        5 seeds   10 seeds   20 seeds   40 seeds   80 seeds   100 seeds
* Guabiju, Posadas   Myrcianthes pungens   16             30                 58             110            190         230
Guaviyú: excelent fruit tree, sweet fruits full of antioxidants, ornamental and hardy plant, it resist -9ºC or so. Stock: about 300 seeds, some of them sprouting now!



16/dic 2019, Two new unidentified jaboticaba species/varieties from Argentina (near P. jaboticaba maybe), frost hardy to -6ºC or so, fruiting in subtropical and temperate climate now:

Jaboticaba Luján (Plinia sp.) . Taste is a bit different to other jabos I tasted (sabara, red, serrana, campo ramon, eldorado gota, inta, etc.), juicy, delicious and sweet, good seed to pulp ratio, well balanced taste, black fruits (not redish) up to 2.6cm diam, I will do icecreams soon. Fruiting in temperate climate! Not precocious. Marco Lacerda wrote about this jabo "Very unusual. Distinct from P. jaboticaba, P. trunciflora, P. cauliflora and several others. I'd approach it to P. oblongata and to Pingo de Mel (Honey Drop), however distinct from both due to the semi-persistent rounded sepals at the calyx."


Name                                Scientific name                        5 seeds 10 seeds  20  seeds 40 seeds 80  seeds  100  seeds
* Sweet uvaia Eldorado   (Eugenia pyriformis or lutescens)   18         32         60             110            190             230
Premium quality uvaia seeds are here, good stock. Sweet juicy and good size fruits from Eldorado, Misiones




 * Junin Eugenia uniflora One of the best tasting native fruits, red and black varieties from Junin:
Good stock!
See the video, good size fruits, very sweet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA-Z7O7fgfw
Name                       (Scientific name)         5 seeds 10 seeds 20 seeds 40 seeds
Junin red pitanga    Eugenia uniflora            8     15           28            54
Junín Black pitanga    Eugenia uniflora       10    19          36            

Another good surprise! this time from Córdoba, Argentina.

* Mistol from Cordoba (Zizipus mistol) ,mixed flavor between chocolate and raisins. It is another excellent fruit native to the grasslands of Argentina. Frost hardy to -7ºC or so. Its fruits can be tasted raw or we can do the mistol coffee by means of a process by which the seeds are discarded in a mill and the pulp of the fruits previously dried in the sun are grounded.

Name                                                5 seeds 10 seeds 20 seeds 40 seeds 80 seeds  100 seeds
Mistol from Cordoba   Zizipus mistol   16          30         58            110          190         230




Big Orange Guabiroba, Eldorado, nov 2019, Big sweet fruits! I will have just a few by monday 4 nov, keep in mind that Campomanesia xanthocarpa seeds are hard to sprout. Wet seeds in vermiculite. Also you can make a wonderful tasty and anti-cholesterol tea with its leaves.

5 seeds USD 16 | 10 seeds USD 28 | 20 seeds USD 50 | 40 seeds USD 90



* (out of stock) Jaboticaba Eldorado gota (Plinia sp.)   Small leaves. Fruits are 2 to 2.8cm diameter.Taste is sweet when it ripes in black colour, with a good amount of acidity, very enjoyable. I will be cleaning the fruits, doing icecreams and selling the seeds. It is a hardy species, it can resist -5ºC (23ºF) or maybe more. Many of them has a drop shape, so I am calling them "gota" just to remember its variety or species, as there are many more at Eldorado, Misiones.



5 seeds USD 16 | 10  seeds USD 30 | 20  seeds USD 58 | 30  seeds USD 84 | 40  seeds USD 110 | 80  seeds USD 190 | 100 seeds USD 230


Name                                                   Scientific name           5 seeds   10 seeds   20 seeds   
Ubajay Eldorado, Misiones, Oct 2019   Eugenia myrcianthes   16            30            58          



Name                                                   Scientific name           5 seeds   10 seeds   20 seeds   40 seeds
Cherry of the rio grande, Red, Eldorado   Eugenia involucrata   10            19            36            68



And will have new ones by tuesday 22 Oct, for instance:

Name                                                   Scientific name           5 seeds   10 seeds  20 seeds   40 seeds   80 seeds 100 seeds
Cherry of the rio grande, Black, Eldorado   Eugenia involucrata      10       19         36             68        110          136





* Hybrid Araçá  (maybe P. guineense x P. grandifolium ), very rare, tastes and smells like pineapple/caramel/strawberries. Hardy to -6º C, it likes irrigation very much but does not tolerate flooding. It bears fruit in 2 to 3 years in pots. Climate: tropical and subtropical. Native of grassland regions, Argentina (Corrientes, Misiones, Salta)
(3/august/2019)Now harvesting Hybrid arazá in the middle of the winter! fruits will get yellow in 1 to 3 days, taste is similar to strawberries+pinneaple, lovely, pleasant smell too, very hardy species. Limited stock.


5 seeds:  USD 12 | 10 seeds:  USD 22  | 20 seeds:  USD 42 | 40 seeds:  USD 80




Stock just on #1 type
Annona aff. neolaurifolia #1 and Annona aff. neolaurifolia #2 . Two rare species, yellow fruits, sweet delicious pulp!  http://www.colecionandofrutas.org/annonaneolaurifolia.htm





5   seeds USD 16
10 seeds USD 30
20 seeds USD 58



Grassland species!: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31468.msg347071#msg347071

Wet climate Offer (all seeds perfectly preserved in wet vermiculite in the fridge):

New Psidium sp. for sale!

* Arazá banana Very rare. Unknown origin, precocious fruit, begins to produce at 2 years old in pot, late production (end of autumn). Very good flavor, reminiscent of a mixture between banana, pear, lemon and guava, the skin is flavorful and crispy. Small seeds that do not bother the palate. It may be similar to the arazá-johvy, but we can not confirm that it is Psidium australe or another Psidium exactly. We think it could be Central American, but we can not affirm it either; the new shoots of leaves are brownish, which can mean that it resists frosts of between -3 to -6ºC. Limited stock.



5 seeds USD   8 | 10 seeds USD 15 | 20 seeds USD 28| 40 seeds USD 54


* out of stock Biribá (Annona mucosa or Rollinia deliciosa) Frost hardy to -2º C or so, sweet taste similar to lemon pie, big fruits, very nice variety from Misiones, Argentina.  Climate: tropical and subtropical

5 seeds USD 10
10 seeds USD 18
20 seeds USD 34
40 seeds USD 66


* Sete capotes (campomanesia guazumifolia), frost resistance -6º C or so. Hardy and tasty species, the flowers have the most wonderful perfume. One of my favourite fruits: it tastes very good (maybe a mix of pear and orange). Climate: tropical, subtropical

5 seeds (USD 12),
10 seeds (USD 22)




* Psidium ROBUSTUM   Very rare psidium, it tastes very good, acid and sweet, similar to a mix of pineapple/apple/strawberry guava. Hardy to -4º C or maybe -5ºC, it can resist to 6 months of drought. Plant in a soil with some sand or perlite for good drainage. Climate: tropical and subtropical

5 seeds, 10 USD
10 seeds, 19 USD




* Arazá serrano (Psidium longipetiolatum) (march 2019)  Very rare psidium, similar to strawberry guava but hardy to -7 or -8º C, bigger leaves and taller tree. I like it more than strawberry guava: deeper citrusy taste. This is my favourite Psidium now along with P. robustum and hybrid Psidium; it has stronger taste. Climate: tropical, subtropical, temperate.

5 seeds, 10 USD
10 seeds, 19 USD


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* (coming soon, nov 2021) Jaboticaba from Oberá, small leaf New Wild one from Misiones, Oberá. Deep sweet taste, very good. Many fruits have a drop shape, thin skin.



* (coming soon, nov 2021) INTA Jaboticaba Amazing news! jaboticabas keep coming from Misiones (1300 km from Junin), subtropical climate. This species was harvested 20 years ago at the San Pedro forest, then selected and growed at Eldorado, Misiones by INTA engeneer, national institute of agricultural technology. 2.5cm sweet fruits with a remarkable petiole, fruits by spring, summer, fall.


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5 seeds USD 18 | 10  seeds USD 32 | 12  seeds USD 39 | 20  seeds USD 60 | 30  seeds USD 85 | 40  seeds USD 110 | 80  seeds USD 190 | 100 seeds USD 230 | 160  seeds USD 300 | 200  seeds USD 360

* (coming soon, nov 2021) Jaboticaba INTA San Pedro This time better than last year! Super sweet juicy fruits, deep flavour, I think this is better than sabara and red hybrid!



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Hi, I have VERY good news, Jaboticaba seeds are on the way and we will be able to send them anywhere in just a few days.

As soon as you reserve yours it will be better because fresh moist seeds are viable for a short time. My advice is to buy now as soon as possible, before they run out, the stock is limited and the quality is top.

Jaboticaba serrana and Campo Ramón:



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I am taking orders, limited stock.

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Peruvian jaboticaba is here! I am eating and cleaning the fruits right now; I hope to be shipping these ones as soon as possible.

There are some really big fruits!

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klnWFXFoGYw



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New jaboticabas keep coming; we have to check this one, maybe a new variety, from San Ignacio, Misiones. Short leaf, very good sweet juicy taste!



We are cleaning the peruvian one right now.
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Leaves of the Peruana one are much smaller:








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Hey! I have new varieties or species! The Eldorado 2 INTA is different in taste to all I knew, subtle cofee tones, very juicy and sweet, 15º Brix or more. From all the jaboticaba species I tasted, maybe this one is the more similar to grapes.






The ones from San Ignacio are very good too!: I think this species is relative to Sabará:






Amazing fruits, seeds are available for order; shippings of this varieties will be ready to send anywhere in 15 to 20 days or so. I will be sending by FedEx with Phytocertificate (then, standard shipping) as soon as I clean and apply fungicide.

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Hi, super good news: Jaboticaba de Campo Ramón and Jaboticaba Serrana seeds are available to send from USA to anywhere now!



So we will be sending by USPS and cleaning more seeds, cheers

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Is Serrana different from Campo Ramon? I noticed Campo Ramon is a town in the highlands (serrana) of Misiones, and they look very similar. Is the phytosanitary certificate free with purchase? Thank you for posting this beautiful video btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blmkB9E58ng

Edit: One more question, do your Jua Acu survive frost, or overwinter inside? I'm not sure if I should plant these in the ground now, or wait until spring. It will get down to about -3c here in a few months.

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Hi: very thanks for writing, and I am loving the fact that you are growing these species successfully:

Jaboticaba Serrana from Oberá should be the same species as Campo Ramón (I think so); yes, they grow near, different trees.

Regarding the cost of the phytosanitary: you should not worry about it, in part that cost, which is high, I distribute it among the different buyers when I charge this or that thing for the cost of shipping.

As this is the first time we have done it this way, the costs may vary a bit. I'm glad you liked the video of the jaboticaba serrana, yes, it is a beauty.

Take good care of your jua açú from frost: with -1ºC it could feel bad ... mine loses all its leaves and branches die in some winter ... not during this winter because it was mild, but during the previous winter. When it grows up, something will hardly kill it: it grows very fast and becomes entangled in anything: be careful, it may be better to leave it in a pot because, once planted, it is VERY difficult to control if you have a small garden.

Is Serrana different from Campo Ramon? I noticed Campo Ramon is a town in the highlands (serrana) of Misiones, and they look very similar. Is the phytosanitary certificate free with purchase? Thank you for posting this beautiful video btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blmkB9E58ng

Edit: One more question, do your Jua Acu survive frost, or overwinter inside? I'm not sure if I should plant these in the ground now, or wait until spring. It will get down to about -3c here in a few months.



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Jaboticaba Peruana, trunk:







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Jaboticaba from Campo Ramón:





Jaboticaba serrana, Oberá:


Jaboticaba from San Ignacio:



Jaboticaba from Eldorado, INTA #2:




Jaboticaba Peruana:



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Jaboticaba de Campo Ramón, Jaboticaba Serrana and many other species are available now from USA to send anywhere, I am taking orders. The other 3 Plinia spp. will be there soon. Shipments within the USA usually arrive at the customer's home in 5 to 6 days.

Check: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ba0iLzeia6R2Wry1IZd8RABU25il08_JTFhH158nTmA/edit#gid=0

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Seeds arrived fresh and germinating! They got here in a couple days from your US supplier. Thanks again Marcos!

Highly recommended seller, as always :)
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Seeds arrived fresh and germinating! They got here in a couple days from your US supplier. Thanks again Marcos!

Highly recommended seller, as always :)

Very thanks!

For all rainforest species: I would just plant them in a good moist soil and wait 20 to 90 days for them to sprout (64ºF to 86ºF, 18ºC to 30ºC), in the shade; no summer sun when small, good water if possible (rain, acid), or without chlorine; use acid soil with sphagnum moss or river peat with nice forest leaves or similar, garden soil, something that drains well like perlite or vermiculite, some organic matter ... I would later add manure, not when I sow. Never let it dry.

For araticus, jaboticabas, eugenias, campomanesias, psidium, guaviyú, pacurí, bunchosia, etc. (rainforest species):
Be very careful with the direct sun in summer or when it is very hot, get accustomed to the shade and never lack water. They could take full sun when taller than 2 feet or 60cm or so, before that, use morning sun or half shade (not too hot from the afternoon heat). Psidium and Campomanesias would support more sun, but take care: if they dont like your soil and/or dont have enough watering, they will suffer with more sun. Bunchosia needs a lot of shade.

(For dry seeds: soak for two days before planting.)

Good luck and keep in touch!, I will be posting here for seeds:
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=45276.0
And I will keep updating about my plants and fruits here:
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Ubajay is great today



And I will have E. involucrata, E. uniflora big red and big black, and others!

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We present for the first time in history a very rare jaboticaba never seen in Argentina, the mother tree lives near a small city called "Piray 18" (as its inhabitants call it), at Misiones, a place of enormous biological diversity. This plant grows near the stream called Piray Guazú, which flows into the great Paraná River.

The tree produces fruits only once a year, they are juicy and sweet, the skin is thick and acidic, the leaves are large too (but not the elongated type as Serrana or Campo Ramón). It is a unique opportunity given that the collector lives in the middle of the jungle, far from big cities, in places that are frequently flooded by rains, with which we will not know if we will have fruits in future seasons. In fact, the owner of the tree is an old local who does not even know how to take photos with his cell phone, so we still do not have photos of the tree, but we do have its leaves since he has taken some branches to my friend so that she can take some photos .

Something special about the size of its fruits is that all fruits are large: it does not produce smaller fruits.

For all these reasons and due to the limited stock is that this Giant Jaboticaba is offered at a special price. For purchases in greater quantity, there are discounts, and free shipping for this species from 10 or more seeds. Each seed, USD 15.



You can make your reservations now, we will be sending the seeds in 15 to 20 days counting from today, that is, by the beginning of November we should make the first shipments of this species.

This is its landscape:
https://www.google.com/maps/@-26.4805885,-54.6563317,3a,75y,181.27h,80.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVwq9hHfWawxcEXdPBzUaJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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We are having plenty of Ubajay! sweet amazing complex taste, my favourite Eugenia.

Seeds will be available to send in 20 days or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjWu6KDVyPw

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New jaboticaba found!

Corrientes is an Argentine province that borders Misiones to the north, that is, it contains some of the southernmost native forests with subtropical fruit trees that exist in our country. For this reason, it is possible that these jaboticabas have some special adaptation to winter frosts. The leaves look similar to others related to P. jaboticaba, but in this case more elongated. The fruits are medium in size, very sweet and juicy. These are fruits obtained from different trees of the native forest in the wild, not cultivated. These species or varieties must be saved from extinction due to land clearing by planting soybeans and grazing for livestock.



The very rare Eugenia hiemalis is part of that landscape too! We will have fruits by friday.
This guamirim is especially good against diarrhea and its fruits are tasty, sweet.



Please be patient, there is a lot of work to do!

You can reserve them now, but seeds will be ready to send in 1 month or so.

About our project: "huertasurbanas" focuses on rescuing fruit and medicinal species from the jungles of Argentina (grassland ecoregions, rain forest, etc.) before deforestation puts them into extinction. For this reason, our focus is on rare species, often not fully described by science, whose scientific names do not yet exist. To conserve genetic diversity, we obtain seeds from trees from different locations within the same province or region, which sometimes belong to the same species (or we suspect it), but perhaps they have some evolutionary advantage, that is: they can be varieties with slight genetic modifications. Sometimes we do not have complete information on this or that variety or species, but we do our best to gather as much information in photos and data from locals. Sometimes the trees are in places far from the cities, with difficult access, so it cannot be guaranteed that in all the coming seasons we will find those seeds again.
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Jaboticaba Campo Ramón is ready to send anywhere!


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Jaboticaba de Corrientes




Hello, have you seen other jaboticabas with this kind of persistent calix on the fruit? This is new to me, I had never tried it: the taste is different from the others, less acidic, sweet with a very interesting juice, strawberry and grape tones. The fruits are not large (1.5 to 2.5cm diam.), The trees are native to the Corrientes jungle and bear 5 kg of fruit at most; the fruit has 2 or 3 seeds for each one but the flavor is really worth it and the skin is thin. It is a new flavor of jaboticaba different from what I have tried from Misiones: similar to San Ignacio jaboticaba but different taste.
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Corrientes jaboticaba, better photos of flowers and leaves:




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Hello, I have very good news, after a significant delay (bureaucratic problems in my country), several seeds will leave for the USA and will be available to send soon. The first will be giant piray jaboticaba and large red pitanga, then 3 more jaboticabas and E. hiemalis will follow.

Please be patient, thanks

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There will be a small stock of Black Cherry of the Rio Grande Eldorado too, just 40 of them.

 

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