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Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« on: April 13, 2020, 05:25:47 PM »
I am planning to buy a large 30 gallon pink Mammoth Atemoya that already has fruits on it. I have fairly good yield from my Geffner and it does not need hand pollination. I hear the Pink Mammoth is larger and sweeter than the Geffner but needs hand pollination. Some other reports suggest that the Pink Mammoth performs poorly in Florida. Considering that this going to be expensive (around $300)  and my space is limited, I want to make sure I am making the right choice. What are the drawbacks of the Pink Mammoth and what would be the best pick for Orlando? Opinions of the experts here are greatly appreciated.

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2020, 06:15:12 PM »
Canít speak for performance there sorry and definitely not an expert but yes they are one to hand pollinate.

This may interest you (edit: added link to all sections. Cultivar and rootstock info is in the *key issues* section) - http://era.daf.qld.gov.au/id/eprint/1653/

Itís old but compares PM to Geffner very favourably (look at the flavor table after cultivars) but does talk about fruit set issues and the need for hand pollination. Also says that Geffner performs better in warmer climates, but I donít know if your area is significantly warmer than here. Looked up averages and looks a bit warmer.
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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2020, 07:27:58 PM »
From what I am understanding there are two different pink mammoths.
Where is the tree coming from? If it is coming from Florida that seller may
have the best information as far as hand pollinating and care. I grafted a scion
last year and have a small pink mammoth that is flushing new growth now. I put it
in the ground a month ago and so far so good. Forum member  Vermented is 1-2
years ahead of most of us with some of newer atemoyas in Florida. Lisa has been
a very good tree for me. No hand pollinating and I really like the Berry flavor.
Dream and Tim have produced well for me also. There are some proven types
for Florida why Pink Mammoth? 

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2020, 09:58:33 PM »
Canít speak for performance there sorry and definitely not an expert but yes they are one to hand pollinate.

This may interest you (edit: added link to all sections. Cultivar and rootstock info is in the *key issues* section) - http://era.daf.qld.gov.au/id/eprint/1653/

Itís old but compares PM to Geffner very favourably (look at the flavor table after cultivars) but does talk about fruit set issues and the need for hand pollination. Also says that Geffner performs better in warmer climates, but I donít know if your area is significantly warmer than here. Looked up averages and looks a bit warmer.


Thank you. That article had very useful information and was well written too from a business perspective.

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2020, 10:06:57 PM »
From what I am understanding there are two different pink mammoths.
Where is the tree coming from? If it is coming from Florida that seller may
have the best information as far as hand pollinating and care. I grafted a scion
last year and have a small pink mammoth that is flushing new growth now. I put it
in the ground a month ago and so far so good. Forum member  Vermented is 1-2
years ahead of most of us with some of newer atemoyas in Florida. Lisa has been
a very good tree for me. No hand pollinating and I really like the Berry flavor.
Dream and Tim have produced well for me also. There are some proven types
for Florida why Pink Mammoth?

The lady who gets me the trees has likely picked it up from a nursery in the Homestead area of South Florida. The one she has available is in a 30 gal container, about 10 ft tall and must at least be 5 years old. It should save me a lot of time to grow and I hear the yield increases as the tree matures. Hope a mature tree yields enough fruits without hand pollination.
I hear there are other good varieties in the Miami area but I have to rent a truck to bring a tree back to Orlando. That would make it super expensive. Hence, I have to settle for what is available here.

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2020, 10:12:52 PM »
Are you planting it in the ground?

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2020, 10:34:39 PM »
Are you planting it in the ground?

Yes, I amend the soil a bit and plant it in the ground.
I like my Gefner. I hear the Pinks Mammoth is sweeter, bigger and has lesser seeds.

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2020, 11:16:04 PM »
Please keep the forum informed how your tree performs.

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2020, 09:06:37 AM »
Are you planting it in the ground?

Yes, I amend the soil a bit and plant it in the ground.
I like my Gefner. I hear the Pinks Mammoth is sweeter, bigger and has lesser seeds.

Pinks Mammoth, with an "s" on pink, is correct.  It is named after someone's surname.
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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2020, 09:50:12 AM »
Isn't KJ Pinks, or Paxton's Prolific, which came from Pinks Mammoth, the variety that doesn't require hand pollination?
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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2020, 10:29:24 AM »
Isn't KJ Pinks, or Paxton's Prolific, which came from Pinks Mammoth, the variety that doesn't require hand pollination?

Itís one of them yes. I had to thin my young one this year because it overproduced without pollination.

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2020, 06:48:55 PM »
Canít speak for performance there sorry and definitely not an expert but yes they are one to hand pollinate.

This may interest you (edit: added link to all sections. Cultivar and rootstock info is in the *key issues* section) - http://era.daf.qld.gov.au/id/eprint/1653/

Itís old but compares PM to Geffner very favourably (look at the flavor table after cultivars) but does talk about fruit set issues and the need for hand pollination. Also says that Geffner performs better in warmer climates, but I donít know if your area is significantly warmer than here. Looked up averages and looks a bit warmer.

One of the links mentions Maroochy Red. I've previously read about Maroochy Gold, but never Maroochy Red.

Do you have more information about this cultivar?

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2020, 08:08:03 PM »
Canít speak for performance there sorry and definitely not an expert but yes they are one to hand pollinate.

This may interest you (edit: added link to all sections. Cultivar and rootstock info is in the *key issues* section) - http://era.daf.qld.gov.au/id/eprint/1653/

Itís old but compares PM to Geffner very favourably (look at the flavor table after cultivars) but does talk about fruit set issues and the need for hand pollination. Also says that Geffner performs better in warmer climates, but I donít know if your area is significantly warmer than here. Looked up averages and looks a bit warmer.

One of the links mentions Maroochy Red. I've previously read about Maroochy Gold, but never Maroochy Red.

Do you have more information about this cultivar?

It's a new annona hybrid from an Australian breeding program. I don't even know if it's released yet.
Look up "Australian red custard apple" and you should find some articles.
Not much into on the specific variety but they do have pictures.

Note: Australians say custard apple in the US we say atemoya.
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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2020, 08:16:03 PM »
I believe these may be the maroochy red or another red atemoya ehich has become available commercially in Aus


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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2020, 08:26:47 PM »
Canít speak for performance there sorry and definitely not an expert but yes they are one to hand pollinate.

This may interest you (edit: added link to all sections. Cultivar and rootstock info is in the *key issues* section) - http://era.daf.qld.gov.au/id/eprint/1653/

Itís old but compares PM to Geffner very favourably (look at the flavor table after cultivars) but does talk about fruit set issues and the need for hand pollination. Also says that Geffner performs better in warmer climates, but I donít know if your area is significantly warmer than here. Looked up averages and looks a bit warmer.

One of the links mentions Maroochy Red. I've previously read about Maroochy Gold, but never Maroochy Red.

Do you have more information about this cultivar?

It's a new annona hybrid from an Australian breeding program. I don't even know if it's released yet.
Look up "Australian red custard apple" and you should find some articles.
Not much into on the specific variety but they do have pictures.

Note: Australians say custard apple in the US we say atemoya.

Those new selections will hopefully be available in the future but no maroochy red and gold are older. That info pack is from 1998 and obviously doesnít include any of the newer stuff.

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2020, 10:32:33 PM »
Canít speak for performance there sorry and definitely not an expert but yes they are one to hand pollinate.

As the Pinks Mammoth tree matures and reaches 10 years or so, can we expect a decent yield without hand pollination or does it require hand pollination 100% for any fruit to set?

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Re: Pink Mammoth Atemoya yield and pollination
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2021, 08:34:42 PM »
Are you planting it in the ground?

Yes, I amend the soil a bit and plant it in the ground.
I like my Gefner. I hear the Pinks Mammoth is sweeter, bigger and has lesser seeds.

Hi @Orlando Goundan - Is it possible to share your experience in the event that you did get the tree?

 

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