Help ID this fruit

[sc4001992]

Is this fruit from a Eugenia luschnathiana or Pitomba?

I went to a fruit tour and picked up these fruits from a mature tree, it tastes ok, not sweet, a little on the source side. I picked up these fallen fruits, forgot to take photos of the tree, maybe later.





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[miked]

Those look too large for pitomba. Outside is similar to monos plum but is a sweet fruit and the inside is different. Any pics of leaves?

[sc4001992]

Nop, to busy looking at all the other fruit trees and eating this fruit. I will need to go back there and take some photos of the tree if no one can ID this one. Someone on the tour mentioned it was an eugenia but I thought the fruits were smaller as well.

[Fruitguy]

Looks like it might be Eugenia victoriana aka Sundrop.

[seng]

If it is sour and the tree is full of long thorns, then it is kei apple.

[sc4001992]

No, I didn't remember any thorns on the tree. I will try to ask the tour guide what it was.

[FV Fruit Freak]

Hey Kaz nice find, it looks like Garcinia xanthochymus (false mangosteen). I ate a couple a few years ago and if I remember correctly they looked like that, and the flavor was similar to what you’ve described. I enjoyed the fruit, some were sour and some were more balanced with good flavor.
Please save me a couple seeds 😉

[sc4001992]

Nate, sure, if I go there again to get some other scionwood, I will pick up any fruits on the ground again.

[elouicious]

Leaning more toward Kei Apple-

https://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Dovyalis+caffra

There are thornless varieties,

Could also be the "tropical apricot" Dovyalis caffra x abyssinica that there is at least one of in Florida

[sc4001992]

yes it does look like the Kei Apple.

I'm going to ask a few people in the tour that should know what it is and get back to you on what variety it is today.

[Triphal]

The fruits don't have pointed 'tips' like in Garcinia xanthochymus. And the cut open fruit substance also is dis-similar. Hope this helps. By the way the important aspect is where (country and zone) were these fruits picked? Thanks

[sc4001992]

Yes, I looked at the photos and they do show a slight point on the tip of the fruits, these have no point, more like an apricot shape.

This tree is growing here in SoCal. It looked very healthy, maybe 8-10 ft tall.

[FV Fruit Freak]

Ya I should have looked back at my pictures first...the false mangosteen I had also had that pointy tip, sorry for the wrong ID Kaz! You should try false mangosteen though, I think you will like it.

[sc4001992]

Ok, just got the real info from the owner of this tree. Here it is, now I remember why I couldn't remember the name, it was too hard to remember or pronounce it.

Ubajay (Hexachlamis edulis), called Guaibajai.  It grows in South America.

[tru]

https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/eugenia-myrcianthes-uvaia-do-campo-seeds

this right? I've had this growing for a while but the only information I can find on it is a thread for WAY back that says it tasted like garlic... glad to see that is not always the case!

[sc4001992]

nop, but this one is right. One of our members were selling seeds a while ago (2014)

https://www.huertasurbanas.com/?s=Ubajay

Tru, but I did read on this site about the uvaia and it is compared to ubajay so you were close.
Maybe that is why someone in the tour said it was some type of eugenia.

[tru]

hmm perhaps tradewinds has the scientific name wrong then, in the description it says Hexachlamys edulis

Before I saw the kei apple suggestion I was really leaning toward https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/eugenia-squamiflora-uvaia-de-joinville-seeds, but the pics on marcos' website looks like a match 100%

[sc4001992]

I've never seen this fruit before I took this fruit tour. It tastes ok to me, not sweet at all, but not really sour like a lemon. Tree looks really nice, stays relatively small. Now if it had any good nutrients or something good for you then I would be trying to grow one. I will probably still grow out the seeds to do it.

[Mike T]

Until it was cut it did look like a Garcinia dulcis or small xanthochymus. Sundrops are shinier btw and a pity there is no foliage shown. It does look a lot like big Eugenia pyriformis fruit.

[sc4001992]

Mike, the person who owns the tree gave me the answer above. If I go to his place again, I will make sure to take some photos of his tree as a follow up on this post. I was too busy looking at his giant mauritius lychee, giant longan tree, large Turnbull guava, and large Elixir cherimoya tree. There were so many large fruit trees growing like a fruit forest, best tour I have been to so far.

[elouicious]

Very nice!

I sourced one of these from sacredsucculents a while ago and it survived 18f this year-

synonyms include-
Eugenia myrcianthes
Luma myrcianthes
Mycria gemmiflora
Myrcianthes edulis

https://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Hexachlamys+edulis

Did it have willow-like pendulous branches?

Eugenia myrcianthes “Ubajai”
Myrtaceae. Small willow-like tree to 15-25′. Pendulous branches, simple glossy leaves, pubescent when young. White flowers and apricot size edible fruit. The flavor of the fruit is excellent when still pale yellow but becomes insipid upon turning a dark yellow/orange. Native to the Rio Plata region, Brazil. Easy to grow ornamental/edible, mature trees tolerant of mild frost. Z9b
Text Sourced from sacredsucculents.com