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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing pawpaw in Southern California
« on: October 04, 2024, 06:20:16 PM »
I saw the commercial planting in San Martin recently that supplies Andy’s Orchard. They are in full sun, 110 degree’s lately and fruiting 100’s of pounds lately.
I have tree’s doing well closer to the coast with zero irrigation , so they seem pretty adaptable all the way around. They just take a few years to catch and really get going.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what are the fastest growing/ fruiting duguetias and annnonas?
« on: October 04, 2024, 01:54:10 PM »
Rollinia genetics are really interesting in that there are no named varieties and they have the widest native dispersal range of all the Annona’s from Central to South America .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Most Outrageously Delicious Canistel Ever
« on: October 04, 2024, 12:21:29 AM »
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=15951.0
Quote from: shpaz on October 04, 2024, 12:18:15 AM
Quote from: gozp on October 03, 2024, 03:06:36 PM
Anyone growing Philippine pointed canistel?

Is it a good variety? I mean in terms of moisture content.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what are the fastest growing/ fruiting duguetias and annnonas?
« on: October 04, 2024, 12:19:59 AM »
How do you keep it hot and humid like south florida inside your house in northern Washington state in December and January!? Sounds delightful yet moist.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Going to rip out my Lulo (sniff sniff)
« on: October 04, 2024, 12:16:50 AM »
While they root easy from cuttings , I have never seen them sucker, even in big 20’ x 20’ tree’s.

Super sweet is kinda the opposite flavor profile of bland white flesh dragon fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what are the fastest growing/ fruiting duguetias and annnonas?
« on: October 03, 2024, 11:42:13 PM »
Have you fruited one in so cal yet? Can definitely be done in so cal but I still wouldn’t encourage it. Overwintering for 5 years to get fruit is a tricky gamble, and then they randomly die too. This thread is for Seattle so not super relevant anyhow.
Quote from: nullzero on October 03, 2024, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: Bush2Beach on October 02, 2024, 06:48:57 PM
For South Florida only.
Quote from: gnappi on October 01, 2024, 08:47:05 PM
+1 for Rollinia

It's fast to grow and fruit for SoCal too. Depends on the strain, but 5 years from seed is not impossible. Once it gets about 2 ft tall in the ground it really bulks up.

I have a 4 year old seedling in the ground that looks like it's close to fruiting potentially next year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Going to rip out my Lulo (sniff sniff)
« on: October 03, 2024, 11:37:04 PM »
Muntingia are delicious. Most people seem to like them quite a bit. Way more flavor than a bland dragon fruit.

Quote from: BloomAndSprout on October 03, 2024, 08:13:42 PM
Quote from: Galatians522 on October 03, 2024, 07:51:28 PM
Quote from: BloomAndSprout on October 03, 2024, 06:04:04 PM
Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on October 03, 2024, 05:23:31 PM
Always in a cycle of culling trees that don't make good fruit or are taking up unnecessary space.
Even if I had the space, why on earth would I plant a muntingia tree? ;D

What's wrong with them?  I believe I have some seeds here I've been meaning to germinate; the description of the fruit sounds good.

Its not that they are bad. There is just no wow! Factor to them. Kindof like the typical white Dragon fruit. The flavor reminds me of how your mouth feels after eating cotton candy but with very little sweetness.

Oddly enough I have seen some very positive descriptions of the fruit online, which is partly why I obtained the seeds, not that they were expensive at all.  Is there possibly a large variability in the quality of fruit, or (in your opinion) are some people likely just easily impressed by something "different?"

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Going to rip out my Lulo (sniff sniff)
« on: October 03, 2024, 02:15:24 PM »
They are pollinated by big carpenter bee’s , shade is not a problem for fruit production.
No need to plant spiky Lulo with the spineless kind being easy to find.

As your greenhouse evolves, may the plants that take their place thrive and make many tasty fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what are the fastest growing/ fruiting duguetias and annnonas?
« on: October 02, 2024, 06:48:57 PM »
For South Florida only.
Quote from: gnappi on October 01, 2024, 08:47:05 PM
+1 for Rollinia

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your opinion please - is it worth my time and effort to plant macadamias?
« on: October 01, 2024, 03:41:33 PM »
Also , Clay is not an issue so far as I have seen for successfull Mac nut plantings. They grow very easily with little irrigation or care in Santa Cruz, which is the closest relatable data for Sonoma/marin counties.
The main factors to consider are planting enough tree’s for cross pollination and how to beat the squirrels and rats to the nuts.
I have seen weed mat used under the tree’s as a good collection method. If I had the space in Santa Cruz to plant some I would . The big tree’s I know of around town are one off’s and do not produce a lot, though I have beaten the critters to some before. Fresh Mac nuts can never be compared to the shwill offered up at Costco or anywhere else. The excuse that they are a pain in the butt to process for such a delicious nut is something I could never understand. Food requires processing and doesn’t just come in a plastic bag off the tree. Processing the chickens, cows and pigs that everyone eats sounds like alot more work to me than Mac nuts, but we are trained to the convenience that food comes from the grocery store and we don’t have time to work for it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your opinion please - is it worth my time and effort to plant macadamias?
« on: October 01, 2024, 01:54:34 PM »
Mauna loa is a mono crop , spray roundup under the tree’s situation with thousands of acres of mac nuts. No clay in the soil in their locations .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when is rollinia in season?
« on: September 30, 2024, 09:33:37 PM »
Gotta have a seller that’s willing to ship first. I have yet to see that.

Quote from: SplorKeLZ on September 30, 2024, 09:31:24 PM
Quote from: Bush2Beach on September 30, 2024, 09:19:02 PM
They flower and fruit after some really good rains or continuous deep watering. Maybe the worst Annona fruit to think about shipping.
thanks! i have heard that, unfortunately i cant really get it any other way, willing to take a chance :P

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Our Why
« on: September 30, 2024, 09:21:44 PM »
Salute and full support. Thanks for farming with a mission , very heartwarming.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when is rollinia in season?
« on: September 30, 2024, 09:19:02 PM »
They flower and fruit after some really good rains or continuous deep watering. Maybe the worst Annona fruit to think about shipping.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help. Me. Out
« on: September 27, 2024, 11:26:52 PM »
you can germinate your seeds in pure coco coir in plastic containers with lids

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO, Eugenia rootstock and some fresh tropical fruit
« on: September 26, 2024, 08:11:22 PM »
What does that even mean?
Quote from: SplorKeLZ on September 26, 2024, 07:12:10 PM
also looking for a good eugenia rootstock

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overloaded White Sapote tree
« on: September 26, 2024, 08:10:15 PM »
Compared to underloaded one's with no fruit ever that are the same size, that tree is going off!
There is science to it with A type , B type and AB type, so to speak.

Quote from: Oolie on September 26, 2024, 07:29:04 PM
I don't know if there is such a thing as an overloaded white sapote tree.

They seem to not understand the meaning of such logic.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your opinion please - is it worth my time and effort to plant macadamias?
« on: September 26, 2024, 06:58:51 PM »
10 year trials are the name of the game when zone pushing. They may die, live and never fruit , need multiple tree’s for pollination to fruit well, do great. You never know until you try and if there is no data or anyone around to ask then you have to just fuafo.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overloaded White Sapote tree
« on: September 26, 2024, 06:56:02 PM »
It’s sub tropical but adaptable to tropical climates.
There are 3 30+ year old seedling tree’s, not irrigated,  at UcSC that are hard off, die back and never make fruit and there is 1 that fruits a bunch every year. So soil composition must play a big part.
I have mature tree’s that will survive with no irrigation but not fruit unless irrigated.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What are some fruits with extremely unique flavors?
« on: September 24, 2024, 12:38:44 PM »
see'ing everyone's opinion made me think that most all fruits have very unique flavors to the extent that it's hard to think of any that do not.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat is flowering. Anyone else have flowers yet?
« on: September 16, 2024, 06:00:45 PM »
Is that the one in Chinatown?
I got some scion of one in Seattle with that name from Ram some years back.

My tree’s are starting to go into flower now.

Quote from: drymifolia on September 16, 2024, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: DavidBYE on September 16, 2024, 04:47:05 PM
I would love to see some large mature trees. Would you be able to post some pictures?

The main one I've photographed is the one in the international district, because it is basically a solitary tree in an urban environment and therefore lends itself well to photographs. One of the other big trees has an angry sign telling people the tree is off limits, no trespassing, etc., so I don't know that I should share that one since they clearly don't want anyone to know about it. The fruit on that one is also not so great, but it's a huge tree. There's a pair of large ones in West Seattle on a more wooded suburban street, I could try to get over there to take photos at some point, I don't think I've ever taken any of those, but they both fruit well.

Here are some photos of the international district tree that I've taken over the last few years. You can't see the base of the tree because it's behind a tall fence, but the second photo is the best I've got of the trunk and branches.









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple Guava (Feijoa)
« on: September 14, 2024, 10:21:43 PM »
They taste great. Tastiest flower I can think of offhand.

Quote from: BloomAndSprout on September 14, 2024, 06:58:27 PM
Does the flower really taste that good or is it an exaggeration?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wasn't this David Fairchild's Dream? Imported Mangosteen . . .
« on: September 14, 2024, 06:02:48 PM »
I’d bet Fairchild was dreaming of fresh Florida grown mangosteen.
A million dollar greenhouse was built at his gardens to fruit it.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO- anything that can produce fruit this year
« on: September 14, 2024, 01:05:35 PM »
Anythings possible. Of the fruits you mentioned , a 15 gallon pot would be the minimum size needed for fruit, aside from myrtacea.

Shipping a 15 gallon would cost alot, never heard of anyone shipping a plant that size, and it could totally get destroyed in transit.

Finding a Annona or Mango that is holding fruit in a pot will be hard to find for less than $300.
Finding a Pouteria fruiting in a pot for less than $1000 would surprise me, same with Garcinia. Lemon drop seem’s like the only possibility.

So we circle back to that sweet myrtle family. Haven’t seen a fruiting Jabo sell for less than $500 on the west coast. Maybe you can find someone with a straberry guava for you.

It is mid September, so your fruiting this year want might be a little out of reach as well.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ice Cream Bean Fruits - Cold Hardy
« on: September 14, 2024, 02:20:12 AM »
The tree's are in flower now , the new fruit sets will be ripe sometime next year.

Quote from: smitchell7 on September 13, 2024, 09:04:40 PM
Hey, im a little late but I'd love to buy some ingas from you if you have any left?

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