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Sweet tart


Sweet tart on left





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Yeah I think April 1st should get you some branches ready to use by june or july.  I guess you could go for earlier, it wont hurt.  Maybe february or march would also be ok.  It just isnt going to want to do much until April.  By May the tree will want to start pushing new growth. 

I dont have a huge problem with droopy trees.  Some are a bit droopy but they seem to grow out of that.  Just have to prune them up and keep it off the ground.  I dont use any supports for my trees.  Ill post some pics.  I did go out and pick a few mangos today and took some photos of the trees.  You can come over and look at them if you want.  Its not that far, maybe 30-40 minutes south.




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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sugarcane cuttings
« on: Today at 07:42:31 PM »
It grew slowly here and has tight node spacing and the canes are really fat.  It probably does better in different climates but for here the jamaica stripe seems to grow better. 

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I've got some pieces of

Desert king (plants or cuts)
Thick king
Godzilla
Rainbow
Orange giant
Palora
S8
Black
Australian yellow ISIS
Golden gold
Boreal

Plants 30, cuts (1ft) 15$

Prefer local pickup but I can ship some pieces.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sugarcane cuttings
« on: Today at 05:24:21 PM »
I had cut the big stripes out but some are coming back if you want it Bill.  I don't recommend growing it but if you want it I have it...

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Why not go for sweet tart?  I have early gold and it ends up flowering at weird times and not really doing that well.  It does make early fruit but they are sometimes all out of wack from other varieties.  Like it's flowering right now. 

Also why top the tree at 5ft?  I would say chop it at 1ft in April and graft several of the new shoots when they come out.  I think you will have more success doing the smaller grafts.  And having them lower seems better to me.  Top working trees even 2 or 3ft up has always seemed like a mistake when I have done it. 

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Why not grow some cherries or whatever will grow there?  Do people grow cherries?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: November 30, 2023, 05:01:59 PM »
I would call it floral rather than dish soap flavor.  Some people percive cilantro as dish soap flavor also and find it bad.  It maybe the same kind of thing.  Some people just dont like that flavor.  For me, i think it makes the s8 taste good.  The only thing is there no acid in the S8.  Its floral and sweet but lqcking acid.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado 24/7 Thread
« on: November 28, 2023, 06:51:39 PM »
I saw it but doubt its anything special based on their other releases.  But who knows, maybe it will be amazing and everyone will top work all their hass trees with it.   ::)

Or maybe just hype it up and collect royalties until the hype wanes. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos in san diego
« on: November 27, 2023, 12:49:44 PM »
I need to wait longer for the mangos.  Some are ripe but a lot are still pretty green.  Cherimoyas are also late.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: November 27, 2023, 01:00:19 AM »
S8 is the best.  Just my opinion.  Cant beat it.  Theres one called pink panther thats really similar also does great.  I quit caring for my DF plants and just let them go and we only get fruit off s8.  Lots of fruit with zero effort.  And taste is best and the vines are hardy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: November 26, 2023, 03:39:44 PM »
Those still need many months to finish. 

Thats why i quit growing megalanthus.  Takes too long to ripen.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sad Avocado Tree
« on: November 21, 2023, 09:10:03 PM »
Also ditch the stake and green tape.  Its choking the tree.  The tree needs to hold itself up at this point.  Hass and fuerte both dont need staking. 

I think if you prune it hard and paint all the bark it may have a shot.  Even this may not save it. At some point they just get screwed up for good and its better to replant. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 21, 2023, 09:07:13 PM »
Hey Janet that great things are coming along and you got the well running.  Looks like you guys put in a ton of work.

You have any issues with deer?  Had to fence off all my stuff or the deer would eat it to a nub. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sad Avocado Tree
« on: November 21, 2023, 09:03:54 PM »
Hello, once the tree gets too much sun on the bark they can go into decline and become stunted.  It wont recover from this case.  Its too late to try and paint it and save it from getting to this stunted point. 

You wont like my advice but to save the tree, you will need to paint the bottom few feet of trunk white and then top the tree at around 2-3ft tall.  Then next year it will grow out of this condition most likely.

I think the good tree is the fuerte.  The leaves looks like fuerte but I am not certain on that.  The fuerte has some specles on the new growth i believe.

Good luck with the tree.  It was most likely not anything you did other than planting out the tree into full sun and it just didnt get its legs in time to be able to adjust to that much sun input.  It happens to me too and I have lots of trees.  Sometimes they just cant take the summers and get into this state despite plenty of water.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Thread
« on: November 20, 2023, 12:19:32 PM »
I have a sweetheart that has been in ground in east Orange county(FL) since 2012. Its one of my original trees I planted after Bob from Green Jungle(RIP) gave me some fruit from his trees. I was hooked. My tree is about 15 feet high and about 10 wide. Never had any cold or frost issues while nearby longons, which are supposedly more cold hardy, froze. I have also never even had a flowering. Really flipping annoying for one of my most otherwise successful trees. My Texas plum at least blooms.

I havent gotten much fruit off sweetheart either.  Thry also get lanky and break branches. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chocolate Persimmons
« on: November 18, 2023, 05:08:14 PM »
I have this tree also and they are good but I think Fuyu is better. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rabbit discourager
« on: November 11, 2023, 01:21:14 PM »
Chicken wire fence

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The full tree leaf strip should come right before the tree wakes up from winter.  Around February or March here. 

But you can continue to do it through summer to get more flowers.  But this time dont strip the whole tree.  Just strip back some leaves towards the inside of the tree on big branches where a good fruit will form. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question about greenhouse heater and fan.
« on: November 09, 2023, 02:21:37 PM »
The real question is who did the wiring.  What size wire is is, how long is the wire and what size breaker.  As long as those were done properly it should be fine. 

Your fan is going slower because the voltage is lower when the heater is on because of the loss in the wire from the breaker panel to the outlet. 

Certain wire gauge should be used to keep voltage drops across certain lengths to a tolerable level of 1 or 2%.  Not sure exactly what the code is but you don't want more than a couple percent drop on AC runs


You could put a voltage meter in the socket and check it with the heater on.  It should still be close to 120 or 240 with it running.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: For the love of concrete!!
« on: November 09, 2023, 12:32:32 PM »
Have you guys seen the rocket mass heaters? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos in san diego
« on: November 05, 2023, 05:25:16 PM »
It looks like the mangos still need another month or so.  If you guys want to do a get together on Dec 2nd Imshould have a bunch of mangos to try. 


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sugarcane cuttings
« on: November 04, 2023, 04:09:38 PM »
Hey Bill, i can cut a few pie es but I dont have a whole lot at the moment.  I have not really been taking care of the canes.

Send me a message

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fuyu Persimmon Tree- Broke In Half
« on: November 04, 2023, 11:26:32 AM »
ďAs God is my witness, he is broken in half!Ē
Those pictures look like they are from a crime scene. All you need is an outline. I, too, had a Fuyu persimmon tree that broke in half, but it was high wind that caused it and not fruit load.  It never recovered so I replaced it with another tree that refuses to grow. Every year it produces ~5-6 fruit but never grows larger than 4-5 feet. Iíve tried stripping the fruit, and it still wonít grow. Honestly, I donít know why I put up with it.

I think the weather is too hot in our area.  I have some trees and they do fruit but they always look stressed when the weather is really warm.  I think they need to be in a more protected area of the yard or closer to the coast. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lila Avocado Black Streak above graft
« on: November 02, 2023, 06:00:17 PM »
Looks like sunburn but like I said it typically does not happen on a vertical branch.  I think it would not hurt to paint it white and seal it up but also probably not going to do much either. 

Best thing to do is plant the tree and let it get some vigor so it can grow out of it.  Ifnyou keep it in the small pot for long it will slowly decline. 

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