Would you plant Rosigold or NDM4 16 feet from neighbor's sewer line?

[Malia]

I am running out of spots for my plants. There is however one spot where there is now a hideous areca palm half-eaten by fire ants.
As per the subject line, it is quite close to the neighbor's sewer line. + 2 more feet to his water pipe. I thought about a dwarf variety. NDM4 or Rosigold? Any other suggestions apart from these 2 and Pickering (already grows in a different spot)? Cocktail trees also welcome. I was discussing pina colada/sugarloaf in another thread but this might not be so small.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

[sapote]

NDM4 or Rosigold? Any other suggestions apart from these 2 and Pickering (already grows in a different spot)?

Imam Pasand will be a small tree and gives excellent taste fruits.

[TREESNMORE]

Roseigold is early but not that good of a fruit.

[Malia]

Thank you sapote and Mike for your excellent tips.
I understand you have no objections regarding the proximity of neighbor's sewer line?

Re Rosigold: yes, I am aware it is quite mediocre, but very early.
Re Imam Pasand, I am very intrigued. From my preliminary research, I want it! My research says it's 10-15 feet tall, so ok with me. The only issue is the fruiting season June July. Mid-season and I am looking rather for early or late varieties.
Excalibur lists Imam Pasand. Mike, do you have it in your nursery? Shorter drive than Excalibur

[TREESNMORE]

No I don't have Imam Pasand

[DG791]

Just got a nice 3G  Imam Passand from Tropical Acres. They have it listed in stock.

[Squam256]

I like a good Rosigold a lot better than one-dimensional, boring Nam Doc Mai with its complete lack of sub-acidity or complexity. Nam Doc Mai makes me want to take a nap.

The earliest Rosigolds (talking about the ones that ripen in mid-March), fruit from really young Rosigold trees, and/or overwatered trees can be mediocre. But good examples of the fruit are a lovely classical-flavor group fruit with lots of stone fruit notes. Some of the April Rosis we’ve had have hit the low 20s in Brix. Really nice sweetness.

And as far as which is the smaller tree, Rosigold wins that contest against Nam Doc Mai as well. Also, while NDM has better anthracnose resistance, it is a magnet for powdery mildew.

[Malia]

Haha, this is what happens when you ask for a recommendation on tropicalfruitforum. I love this place.
I am not ruling out NDM4 completely at the moment, because according to tropicalacresfarms it is dwarfish and my kids like it as the only mango variety. They might not be kids anymore when the tree starts fruiting though... Also, anything mold/fungus has not been a concern so far. I think I am lucky with the microclimate here.
But I think Rosigold will be a winner. Imam Prasand will probably take another spot on my lot though.

Thanks everyone for all advice!

Edit: I didn't notice I am responding to Alex lol. So, Alex, do you think NDM4 can be comparable size to Rosigold?

[spaugh]

Plastic sewer lines are a non issue.  Its the old cast iron ones from the 60s that rot out and leak then root get into. 

[Malia]

Ha! That's the question! I do not know if they are cast iron or PCV. Houses from the 60s, but my sewers are plastic now, originally cast iron. I should ask the neighbor in case he knows...

[Kevin Jones]

My now plastic lines were originally terra cotta.
For me... it's not so much the human waste... as the chemicals that are frequently poured/flushed down the line.

Kevin

[roblack]

Rosigold is a good mango, wish had one now.

As far as planting near sewage line, 16 feet seems within reason. Agree, can't be sure what people are flushing and pouring down the drain, but if its not toxicifying your mangoes, mango tree is better than grass, weeds, and most other plants.

[spaugh]

Unless the sewer line is broken, its not going to be leaking any chemicals.  And same for letting roots in, unless its broken roots arent going in it. 

[Guanabanus]

Access to high Nitrogen in seepage from the drainfield probably will be beneficial to the Nam Doc Mai, and probably to many other southeast-asian
varieties.

Most India-type varieties are likely to do poorly in that much Nitrogen..

[palmcity]

Access to high Nitrogen in seepage from the drainfield probably will be beneficial to the Nam Doc Mai, and probably to many other southeast-asian
varieties.

Most India-type varieties are likely to do poorly in that much Nitrogen..

I had not considered nitrogen requirements varying with India-type vs. Southeast-asian.

Do you routinely recommend higher nitrogen levels to growers of Southeast-asian mangos and if so do these trees seem to bloom/fruit without an excess of vegetative growth?

As an example::: If you had a row of 10 trees and soil had the same percent nitrogen in it before supplementing. Half the trees were Indian and grew & fruited well when receiving 4 cups of nitrogen mixed fertlizer .... If the other half were Southeast-Asian would you probably give them 6-8 cups of nitrogen fertilizer mix around the roots?

[Guanabanus]

In Northern Territories, Australia, Nam Doc Mai has been shown to need more Nitrogen than Keitt, and than several other varieties grown there.

Most varieties have not been tested out that way.  Labs in the USA usually have been lumping all mango varieties together, and then often interpreting the results per the needs of Citrus!  They also usually skip testing several trace nutrients.

So when we wish for answers based on science, we often are not there yet.

Since testing a great many of our favorite varieties in sufficient detail will take a while, in part to spread out the cost, we can start with suppositional groupings.  So I simply extrapolated from NDM results to other SE-Asian tropical, dark green, very leafy varieties.  The Australian authors had kind-of suggested that.

Your suggested protocol for fertilizing to different rows of trees sounds like a good, experimental start.