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Title: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Sp0nser on May 14, 2022, 03:44:40 PM
Recently i've been thinking, our conditions here in socal aren't very suitible to fruit tropical annona fruits like ilama, soncoya or rollinia. did anyone know this and just growing them for the hell of it or do you have a special setup that provides the conditions required to fruit the annonas?

Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Sp0nser on May 14, 2022, 10:26:14 PM
Guess im the only one then
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Bear on May 14, 2022, 11:23:35 PM
Sorry I can't offer much personally;

On the 'California Rare Fruit Growers' Facebook page people bring them up a bit, I'm not sure if you're on there or not.

Do you know the guy/page Man vs Fruit? I'm not sure if he's on here or not because I don't know who he is lol- but he has a great range of Annona and sells on eBay through this account: https://www.ebay.com/sch/akitu-trees/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
He's also well connected to other growers in the area (San Diego) and knows tips and tricks so hopefully he posts here, if not flick him a message on facebook :)

Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: elouicious on May 15, 2022, 10:59:00 AM
he is on here with the same name
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Bush2Beach on May 15, 2022, 11:00:15 AM
Southern California is an arid desert , Rollinia prefer 100% humidity, ton’s of water and temps not going below 50 degree’s.
This in a nutshell is what limits plenty of tropical fruits in So Cal.

South Florida is high humidity and rains all summer.
Comparing 10b CA, and 10b FL are apples and oranges.

I just saw 3 huge Soncoya tree’s in FL and they will never fruit because hand pollination is necessary.
Same with lots of Annona.
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: BayAreaMicroClimate on May 15, 2022, 01:41:58 PM
I heard in a fruit&spice park tour the lady said the Rollinia is the hardiest Annona there. So maybe planting a Rollinia in SoCal near a pond or something to increase humidity could work
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Sp0nser on May 15, 2022, 02:33:26 PM
Ah crap.
I ordered a few annona conica seeds in hopes that they would fruit one day.
guess not.
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: John B on May 15, 2022, 11:58:42 PM
Sorry I can't offer much personally;

On the 'California Rare Fruit Growers' Facebook page people bring them up a bit, I'm not sure if you're on there or not.

Do you know the guy/page Man vs Fruit? I'm not sure if he's on here or not because I don't know who he is lol- but he has a great range of Annona and sells on eBay through this account: https://www.ebay.com/sch/akitu-trees/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
He's also well connected to other growers in the area (San Diego) and knows tips and tricks so hopefully he posts here, if not flick him a message on facebook :)
 
Hmmm

Anyhoo, I'm growing some illama seedlings to graft to my cherimoya's for the purpose of FRUIT. I'm not interested in growing them out as trees, though.

Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Bush2Beach on May 16, 2022, 01:00:51 PM
That’s a weird thing to say, maybe they do not understand how Annona defoliation works?
I’ve seen Rollinia fruiting in Goleta, so it is possible anywhere south of that.
It can be done.
Rollina is also extremely variable from seed with a wide native range and genetic pool and no named or known selections that can be traced somewhere .
Finding the region in Central America or South America that has the most cold adapted Rollinia Deliciosa is a worthy search.

I heard in a fruit&spice park tour the lady said the Rollinia is the hardiest Annona there. So maybe planting a Rollinia in SoCal near a pond or something to increase humidity could work
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Sp0nser on May 16, 2022, 03:49:45 PM
That’s a weird thing to say, maybe they do not understand how Annona defoliation works?
I’ve seen Rollinia fruiting in Goleta, so it is possible anywhere south of that.
It can be done.
Rollina is also extremely variable from seed with a wide native range and genetic pool and no named or known selections that can be traced somewhere .
Finding the region in Central America or South America that has the most cold adapted Rollinia Deliciosa is a worthy search.

I heard in a fruit&spice park tour the lady said the Rollinia is the hardiest Annona there. So maybe planting a Rollinia in SoCal near a pond or something to increase humidity could work

here in orange, humidity usually doesnt go above 50 percent while goleta has pretty high humidity, about 70 percent.
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Bush2Beach on May 18, 2022, 12:18:02 PM
I think growing Cherimoya’s are the answer and then top work with other Annona’s once established.
Closer to the coast is going to be better for Rollinia with the increased humidity.
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: Sp0nser on May 19, 2022, 12:44:43 AM
Not even my atemoyas I've hand pollinated give fruit and I have no idea why.
Title: Re: rare annona growers of socal, do you expect fruit out of your annonas?
Post by: K-Rimes on May 19, 2022, 01:35:32 PM
A large Rollinia promptly died during my 9b winter (RIP buddy). It's a no go for me for anything but cherimoya and atemoya me thinks.