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Which citrumelo is better? More resistant, better flavor or earlier to harvest.
Lauta_hibrid:
Good morning, I used these varieties in the graph because I wanted to compare shapes and sizes, although I don't have them to make a correct scale, and since they are the most mentioned, I mention their quality. Regarding their origin, I only have these parents implied, but I don't know the origin of the others. What information can you give me? Is any of them ripe before the frost? Which one has less resin, less acidity, less aftertaste of poncirus, less bitter and less resin. I only tried Swingle, but I would like to know which others are suitable for my breeding plan. I would also like to know about the proportion of zygotes.
BorisR:
I have noted that citrumelo Swingle has a proportion of nucellar seeds from 64% to 95% according to various sources, Sacaton contains about 40% of zygote seeds (I can give links to sources).
Wahl:
My Swingle are getting ripe now so before to bad of a frost. The taste to for tri hybrid is good with not much tri flavor.
Mulberry0126:
So I have a detailed taste review on Dunstan and Sacaton, as well as mention of Swingle in a different video. I also made a picture to compare fruit size when I am offering the plants for sale.
Dunstan is my favorite, it ripens before frost here, and I actually prefer it slightly underripe. Fully ripe or after a frost it has a more prominent trifoliate taste. It has an acidic pomelo taste and some grapefruit bitterness but not much, it's quite palatable.
Sacaton is larger and juicier but milder in taste and reminds me of a sour orange and grapefruit but more diluted. It has a slight trifoliate taste, similar to Dunstan when fully ripe. I'm not sure when exactly it ripens here but it seems similar to Dunstan.
Swingle is the smallest of the bunch and has more of a lemon/sour orange taste mixed with grapefruit. Hints of mandarin too but the trifoliate taste is more noticeable than the others. It ripens before frost here.
I have not had the opportunity to try 5star, but if my trees set fruit next year I will review them too.
Here's the video review:
https://youtu.be/sWMmj09REC4?si=SyUei_N2Z9QlkDxM
Here's the photo comparison:
Also, forgot to mention. In terms of % nucellar seeds, Dunstan and Swingle must be 95% or more, they are highly uniform for us. Sacaton seems much lower, no matter the source.
They were the most uniform from Lyn Citrus Seed, but still had 10-15% zygotes. Seeds from open-pollinated trees at Stan McKenzie's farm were highly zygotic, upwards of 50-60%. Based on their morphology, many of them seemed to cross with Ten Degree Tangerine which was in close proximity.
Wahl:
--- Quote from: Mulberry0126 on October 29, 2024, 08:42:00 AM ---So I have a detailed taste review on Dunstan and Sacaton, as well as mention of Swingle in a different video. I also made a picture to compare fruit size when I am offering the plants for sale.
Dunstan is my favorite, it ripens before frost here, and I actually prefer it slightly underripe. Fully ripe or after a frost it has a more prominent trifoliate taste. It has an acidic pomelo taste and some grapefruit bitterness but not much, it's quite palatable.
Sacaton is larger and juicier but milder in taste and reminds me of a sour orange and grapefruit but more diluted. It has a slight trifoliate taste, similar to Dunstan when fully ripe. I'm not sure when exactly it ripens here but it seems similar to Dunstan.
Swingle is the smallest of the bunch and has more of a lemon/sour orange taste mixed with grapefruit. Hints of mandarin too but the trifoliate taste is more noticeable than the others. It ripens before frost here.
I have not had the opportunity to try 5star, but if my trees set fruit next year I will review them too.
Here's the video review:
https://youtu.be/sWMmj09REC4?si=SyUei_N2Z9QlkDxM
Here's the photo comparison:
Also, forgot to mention. In terms of % nucellar seeds, Dunstan and Swingle must be 95% or more, they are highly uniform for us. Sacaton seems much lower, no matter the source.
They were the most uniform from Lyn Citrus Seed, but still had 10-15% zygotes. Seeds from open-pollinated trees at Stan McKenzie's farm were highly zygotic, upwards of 50-60%. Based on their morphology, many of them seemed to cross with Ten Degree Tangerine which was in close proximity.
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The few years my Swingle fruited the taste of was good with slim none all trifoliate, I think it was a more grapefruit also the size on mine where bigger it seems. I have some fruit this year again, after these very cold winters so I'll see if I'm remembering is right.
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