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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2012, 11:10:01 AM »
WOW Recher! That's a very nice pouteria collection! How would you describe the fruit of multiflora? Currently I have multiflora seedlings and grafted budwood, which came from Oscar...

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2012, 09:18:46 PM »
Ask Oscar...mine came from Mayaguez ag station ...jeez 30 or so years ago and still i wait for fruit. Think second class
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2012, 09:36:11 PM »
30n years and no fruit it sounds like its genetic tree should be a stump.It would be worth hitting it with the micronutrients your soil is lowest in as well as the back of an axe.Maybe it is not the ideal climate for the particular tree and it is still waiting for the right cues.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2012, 04:50:50 AM »
The 'lucuma' in Australia are all messed up and most are seemingly just a bad strain of canistel, so getting some seed that I could actually count on as being from a real lucuma would be great.

NOT TRUE. FOR EXAMPLE I IMPORTED SCIONS OF LUCUMO FROM BILL WHITMAN THAT HE GOT FROM KONA. HE RAVED ABOUT IT. HE WAS RIGHT. HUGE FRUIT. NO FRUIT MAKES A BETTER MILKSHAKE..TO MY TASTE BUDS LIKE RUM ' RAISIN.

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That lucmo from Kona is probably from the Kainaliu experimental station. It is a huge fruit, but it is the dry floury type used in cooking, or processing, not for eating out of hand. There are also lucmos that are very moist and very nice to eat out of hand.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2012, 09:29:29 AM »
That lucmo from Kona is probably from the Kainaliu experimental station. It is a huge fruit, but it is the dry floury type used in cooking, or processing, not for eating out of hand. There are also lucmos that are very moist and very nice to eat out of hand.


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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2013, 10:51:45 PM »
Does anyone know if Lucuma can be grown in a 25 gallon container and fruit?
Can it produce fruit near the coast (I'm located 52 feet above sea level and five miles away from the beach)?
If grown by seed how long will it take to produce fruit?

I'm interested in buying a tree but I don't want to get it if I know it won't produce. I'm looking for information on how to grow this tree but there's hardly any info on the internet!!! Help me out guys please!

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2013, 04:20:03 AM »
Yes, it'll fruit in that container. In fact, Alex Silber of Papaya Tree Nursery has some of his for sale trees with fruits on them.

Quail (San Diego Botanic) Gardens has a lucuma that holds fruit on it at all times of the year. It's 5 miles from the coast too.

I heard it fruits sometime after 8 years from seed.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2013, 12:02:48 PM »
Yo Xeno!

In my climate and close to sea level lucuma perfoms very good. I would say the requirements are similar to chirimoya, for example. I don't have experience growing them in pots, but I think it shouldn't be a problem as long as the plant is grafted. I've seen poted plants with fruit.

My guess is a seedling would take the same time as an avocado to produce, production could be erratic. Get a grafted one...

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2013, 08:47:14 PM »
Does anyone know if Lucuma can be grown in a 25 gallon container and fruit?
Can it produce fruit near the coast (I'm located 52 feet above sea level and five miles away from the beach)?
If grown by seed how long will it take to produce fruit?

I'm interested in buying a tree but I don't want to get it if I know it won't produce. I'm looking for information on how to grow this tree but there's hardly any info on the internet!!! Help me out guys please!

check out the Fullerton Arboretum they have a huge fruiting lucuma and you can taste the fruits that fall off the tree.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2013, 09:20:53 PM »
Is any one growing lucuma in florida
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2013, 09:50:44 PM »
I have some, but I think they'd be better for rootstocks...I want the type that's from the lowlands and that makes moist fruits for eating out of hand.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2013, 08:42:02 AM »
Mike, I have a 2-year old plant. It's looking really nice at about a meter tall. Not sure how early they fruit, though, so don't know when it'll fruit, if at all.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2013, 07:01:38 PM »
Hi Adam,

What do you mean by "lowlands"?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2013, 11:33:33 PM »
Hi Adam,

What do you mean by "lowlands"?

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Apparently there are two different types of lucumas. The 'high' land type which has drier flesh and the 'low' land type which has a more moist flesh suitable for fresh eating.

Thanks for all the info guys. I'm kinda sad that there really isn't any good info on the web about this plant and how they grow it. Looks like I'll avoid a seedling lucuma because it takes too long to produce fruit.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2013, 01:39:36 AM »
Just do the same with sapodilla: http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/sapodilla.html
Luckily lucuma grows a bit faster.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2013, 06:39:48 AM »
Hi Everyone,
I'm new to this forum :)
I have been looking for Lucuma seeds and stumbled upon you guys.
Nice meeting you all.
Does anyone know where I can get, buy or swap for some?
They are OK to import to Australia, but I don't know where to to buy them from.
I would especially like the sweet one, but would go either, have plenty of room to go both :)
Any suggestions?
Hey Recher you don't live far away, enjoying the rain? :)
Cheers
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2013, 07:56:20 AM »
Já foste ;)

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2013, 03:41:59 PM »
Does anyone know where I can get, buy or swap for some?
They are OK to import to Australia, but I don't know where to to buy them from.
You'll have to find out of it's OK from your country, or Australian members here. Normally seeds are much less restricted than plants.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2013, 06:01:11 PM »
Yes, they are fine to import.
try to get seeds from a few sources as they seem to vary quite a bit.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2013, 09:32:05 PM »
I have two Lucuma trees that have flowered for the past three years but I get no fruit set. ???Is there a way to tell the difference between highland and lowland cultivars without them fruiting?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2013, 10:38:41 PM »
Scott, you could try hand pollinating to help them along. Tap the pollen off the flowers and then poke the middle stamens into some pollen. Pretty much like what you do for miracle fruits.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2013, 06:50:59 AM »
I have two Lucuma trees that have flowered for the past three years but I get no fruit set. ???Is there a way to tell the difference between highland and lowland cultivars without them fruiting?

Hi Scott,
Welcome to the club :'( My tree has been doing the same :o I wanted to hand pollinate, but never got to it :-[ On the positive side, my tree is growing great, after implementing what Oscar and Adam, suggest to do(fertilze the tree ;D )
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2013, 12:29:14 PM »
Does anyone know a source for the moist type in the US?
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2013, 02:07:28 PM »
30n years and no fruit it sounds like its genetic tree should be a stump.It would be worth hitting it with the micronutrients your soil is lowest in as well as the back of an axe.Maybe it is not the ideal climate for the particular tree and it is still waiting for the right cues.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2013, 10:43:22 PM »
Hi,

After reading about others who grow lucuma, I am beginning to think that 1 solitary lucuma tree may not be enough. I found several accounts of growers with only 1 tree at about 10 years old/8-9ft tall. One person only gets 1 fruit each year and other person only 2 fruits in 3 years. Any thoughts?

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