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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #500 on: June 26, 2021, 07:04:07 PM »
This demonstration of Bayberry preparations in Yunnan just dropped. Hope you all have success.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGg4X4gxv2w

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #501 on: June 27, 2021, 06:11:32 PM »
Pineislander, thanks for the link to the video! Iíve seen a bunch of her videos and they are so well choreographed. She is extremely talented and in one of the videos, she was digging holes and planting trees, some hard labor.


Does anyone have a Black Peak that is still alive? My Black peak is just barely alive, not sure if it will pull through. It has some leaves but some of the growths just completely dried up.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #502 on: June 30, 2021, 01:45:09 AM »
My Black Peak is no good.



This rootstock is getting full sun.
Last week it couldnít.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #503 on: July 01, 2021, 01:09:42 AM »
A good friend in San Francisco stopped by Bi-Rite and picked up some Yangmei for around $50/lbs if I remember correctly. He was generous enough to overnight me some and I was super stoked. He was able to get some Dongkui and also some Biqi.

Ever since this group buy, I was excited to grow this tree because of how rare it is but I have never tasted the fruit and always wondered in the back of my mind, what if this fruit doesnít even taste good?

Well, those fears were laid to rest today and Iím stoked to report that this fruit is absolutely incredible! Itís very unique and thereís no other fruit like it! To compare it to a more common fruit like a strawberry would be a disservice to the Yangmei. After eating this fruit, I canít understand why this fruit isnít more talked about and why did it take so long for us to find out about it?

This fruit has a slightly sweet smell with a tinge of berry, a hint of floral notes and a background of sandalwood. I know it sounds unusual but to me, the smell is absolutely fantastic.

I gave a DongKui to my daughter and she said it was reminiscent of a strawberry but better. I then gave her a Biqi and she liked Biqi even better. I feel that the people that have tried Yangmei often compare this fruit to a strawberry not because it actually tastes like a strawberry but because the taste is subtle. The sugar level is moderate and the acidity is also moderate. The actual Yangmei flavor is also moderate but the complete package is sublime.

Yangmei is not one of those fruit with an intense flavor profile but itís fantastic smell combined with a perfect sugar acid balance makes it super addictive. I feel like I can eat a bucket full of these fruit.

The first fruit I sampled was a Dongkui and the fruit were larger than I was expecting. The Dongkui was a bit larger than a half dollar and there was a good amount of flesh on the fruit.  The fruit tastes like it smelled and it had a Brix of 10.1%.

I then sampled the Biqi which is a smaller fruit that is much darker in color. The Biqi was slightly smaller than a half dollar and had a Brix of 13.4%. The Biqi has a noticeably sweeter taste and in addition to the flavor that the Dongkui had, the Biqi also had a combination of Blackberry and Pakistan mulberry. In this sampling, I preferred the Biqi over the Dongkui. The folks at Calmei or wherever these fruit came from did a very good job growing and processing these fruit from the quality I observed in this small sampling.

Iím definitely saving the seeds and hopefully they will sprout in a year or two. Now Iím super excited that I have a few trees that are still alive. My Anh Hai and Biqi have grown pretty well and are ready to be up potted.

Here are some pictures of the absolutely incredible tasting Yangmei fruit.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #504 on: July 01, 2021, 01:12:22 AM »
Had some trouble post pictures, let me try again

Dongkui









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« Reply #505 on: July 01, 2021, 01:14:02 AM »
Biqi







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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #506 on: July 01, 2021, 02:27:41 AM »
I forgot to mention, the Yangmei had a slight Osmanthus smell and taste which was very enjoyable!

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #507 on: July 01, 2021, 09:13:35 AM »
That is wonderful news Simon!

I've gambled on growing lots of fruits that have never sampled. It doesn't always work out well.

Any idea on how long these trees will likely take to start fruiting?

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #508 on: July 01, 2021, 10:09:58 AM »
Thatís nice you got to try some yangmei and itís great to hear itís an awesome tasting fruit, thx for posting about the flavor and such. Is your ďfriendĒ part of the group buy?
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #509 on: July 01, 2021, 10:17:59 AM »
Hey Rob, that I have no idea but I would assume that the faster we can grow the trees, the sooner they will fruit. These are grafted trees so they have the ability to fruit much sooner than a seedling but we still need male trees for their pollen. I would assume that since these trees are grafted that they will bloom whenever their bloom season is here.

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« Reply #510 on: July 01, 2021, 10:22:01 AM »
No, my friend is more of a fruit eater and doesnít grow much.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #511 on: July 01, 2021, 11:21:29 AM »
Ah, gotcha, I need to make friends in San Fran...

Your recommendation on the fertilizer is working great! Thanks again!! My Biqi has really started to come to life since fertilizing with it :)


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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #512 on: July 04, 2021, 10:24:16 PM »
Hey Nate, Iím glad the fertilizer recommendation is working out for you.

I am also using this Iron Chelate since the research shows it may like more iron and I had chlorotic leaves.




Here is a quick update on my Biqi. The longest branches are now over 13 inches of new growth and it appears the buds are getting ready to pop secondary branches as well but I have no idea. They just look swollen and ready to grow.





The rootstock growth is now about 7 inches tall. If we can get 9 more members with enough growth on their rootstocks, we can send leaf sample in for Genetic testing to determine the sex. The sooner we find out the sex of the rootstocks, the sooner we can remove female rootstocks( if scion is still alive) so that we donít waste energy on the female sprouts.


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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #513 on: July 04, 2021, 10:25:35 PM »
Hereís a picture of the Biqi with my hand out of the way

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #514 on: July 05, 2021, 12:43:36 AM »
Hereís my An Hai. The branches arenít as long but this variety has much larger leaves.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #515 on: July 05, 2021, 08:13:36 AM »
Just realized Simon is a member of Blue Man Group.

Amazing growth on those. Going to try and catch up!

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #516 on: July 05, 2021, 08:30:44 AM »
Any chance at doing a 2nd round of this group buy?

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #517 on: July 05, 2021, 11:32:48 AM »
Dang Simon, you will have fruit off that in no time!
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #518 on: July 05, 2021, 11:39:32 AM »
Wow Simon! That's awesome, those are boosting.
Grow cooler fruits

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #519 on: July 05, 2021, 12:23:59 PM »
Iíd be happy to graft Somme of those rootstocks into my mature female seedling. One of my rootstocks appears to have survived as well.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #520 on: July 06, 2021, 10:57:52 AM »
Sad to say both my Black Peak and Dongkui died :-[ :'(

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #521 on: July 06, 2021, 11:47:43 AM »
Just realized Simon is a member of Blue Man Group.

Amazing growth on those. Going to try and catch up!

Haha, more like Blue Hand group! Rob, I would think your plants will grow fast in your warmer and more humid environment. I believe they will grow well in areas where Lychees do well.

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« Reply #522 on: July 06, 2021, 12:21:46 PM »
I know several people are hoping for another group buy but it would not be wise to attempt another group buy during the heat of Summer. The trees in this group buy did better than the previous group buy perhaps because the trees were bigger but I feel we would have gotten a much higher survival rate if the temperatures were even cooler.

Iíve been pretty busy working on some other projects and I need to up pot these ASAP. I am about to start some grafting and rooting experiments on these Yangmei but there is the potential I could kill the plants so Iím hesitant to start.

For now, I want to focus on getting a list of everyone that has rootstocks with enough leaves so that we can send leaf samples in for genetic testing. We really need to find a few male trees if we want to successfully fruit these trees.

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« Reply #523 on: July 06, 2021, 03:27:01 PM »
I am about to start some grafting and rooting experiments on these Yangmei but there is the potential I could kill the plants so Iím hesitant to start.

Simon, you're welcome to use my tree as either rootstock or scion for experiments.
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« Reply #524 on: July 06, 2021, 04:15:43 PM »
Thanks for the offer Shane!

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