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Bought a three gallon from Bills Tropicals in Davie, he has some trees producing in the ground.  We did not discuss much about growth habit, but he did mention the quality and productivity are superior.  You may want to reach out to him, he is a very mice guy and am sure he wont mind sharing some info.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rollinia bloomed for the first time
« on: March 20, 2023, 09:48:15 AM »
Does anyone on here know if it helps the biribá to bloom and set (and hold) fruit if it's fertilized occasionally?

I'm wondering if a citrus fertilizer formulation with minors would be the best thing to use. How much?  How often?  Any other fertilizer?

My biribá has a large enough diameter main stem that by now it should be able to bloom and hold a fruit or two.

Just curious ....

Paul M.

Paul, a few months ago I contacted Har Madeem and asked him about it. He mentioned that anonas need micronutrients n order to set fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rollinia bloomed for the first time
« on: March 19, 2023, 12:53:45 AM »
I dont have a lot of hope, honestly. Am just giving it some time and see what happens.  I actually tried one of the very few fruits produced by my neighbor and, frankly, was not impressed. It was sort of bland. The texture was good, sort of jelly smooth. The flavor I was not too impressed with.  I am hopeful that mine will be better, it was brought in from Hawaii, so it may be a different cultivar or what not. Will see.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rollinia bloomed for the first time
« on: March 17, 2023, 05:39:49 PM »
My Rollinia just bloomed a few flowers for the first time this year. It was brought from Hawaii in a 3 gallon container about 6 years ago and it is planted next to my neighbor's rollinia, a tree that has been blooming for several years with almost no production. He may have collected 2 or 3 fruits in the past 5 years since his tree grew to blooming age.
Given the proximity of the two trees (about 8 feet  and a wire fence separating them), is there a possibility these two trees will help each other produce fruit or is that wishful thinking?

My fruiting tree was purchased from montoso gardens in PR in 2013.  It wa s 2ft tall in a 3gal pot. I potted it up to a 7gal and planted it in the ground in 2014. It did not do well in the spot I planted it because it was too windy. After years, it became acclimated and  started growing at a better pace. It fruited for the first time last year, 6 fruit. Right now, there are over 100 flowers on the tree, most of which I hope should mature into edible fruit.

Last year I planted some small tress in a wind sheltered area and they are growing fast and always seem to have new leaves. I was gifted a selecto seedling that was two trees from the same seed. When I planted them, one was 3ft and the other was just over a foot. As of now, the former runt is only a few inches shorter, growing over 3ft in a year. In 2020, I planted some that were in 20gal pots. One is now 9ft and the other over 10 but they have not flowered yet. I have seen much smaller trees with fruit and your 8ft trees are big enough to flower now if they are willing.

Amazing!  Mine have been in the ground since 2017 and they are now about 8 to 9 ft tall.  I bought mine from Hawaii in three gallon pots.   They had serious issues with burnt leaves when they were small, but both appear to be acclimated now.  Using zero nitrogen fertilizer in the winter appears to have helped.  Both trees flushed new growth last week and I will revert to 8-3-9 by the end of the month. They look "like we are getting close" to blooming lets... see.  Anyway, I do appreciate the information.  Thanks!!!

Neither should be harmful long-term.  Continue to keep an eye on the wound and keep the base of the tree weeded so the wound dries quickly after rain or irrigation. If you are spraying you mangos with a fungicide,  you can spray the wound too as added insurance.

I hope you get fruit soon. My first tree fruited at 12ft tall and wide. Still waiting on others that are smaller.

Thank you so much for your feedback.  Do you recall how long it took for your fruiting tree to reach 12 ft tall?  I hear different numbers regarding the time to bloom on these trees.  The sales ladies at Pine Island Nursery on Eureka (about 2 miles from me) told me their trees fruited at around 7-8 feet tall.   I'll be darn if mine are not really close to 8 feet tall.  They were planted in 2017 and I fertilize with 8-3-9 in the summer (about once a month or so) and 0-3-16 (no nitrogen) in the winter.  I also use foliar sprays and chelated iron occasionally.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Question for Tropical Fruit Tree Doctors
« on: March 02, 2023, 11:17:17 PM »
I have two Achachairu trees that were planted in January of 2017. I am hopeful they will bloom within the next two to three years. 

Although both appear healthy and are growing rather nicely, one of them has two problems I was hoping someone here could tell me if they will affect fruiting when the time comes.

About 3 years ago, the main tip of one of my trees broke off.  It now has what appears to be 2 "main tips wantabees."   Neither tip has taken over and become "the main growing tip" and the tree has actually grown sideways a bit (it is about 7 to 8 feet tall.)

That same tree was also injured by a careless gardener mowing my lawn. The wound is about 3 or 4 inches from the ground and, although not completely closed, it appears to be healing and that at some point will close completely.

Can anyone here provide some insight as to how these two issues could affect  fruit production on these trees?

Thank You.

The flattened green ones could be Madam Francique.

I remain hopeful that it will. I've only had the tree for about 4 fruiting seasons...but I have seen it bloom at odd times. Sometimes even multiple times. So who knows? Maybe it will flush out some flowers around the top.

Thank you all for the feedback.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top Tropicals Inconsistencies
« on: March 30, 2020, 06:49:44 PM »
I have not had a lot of luck with them, only with their soilless mix. I bought a Maha Chanok from them about 5 yrs ago. I pulled it out of the box and the tree was dehydrated, so I contacted them immediately and did everything I was told to do. The tree died within about 5 days or so. They refused to refund my money.  Then I bought a "Mun Kun See" mango tree and what they send me gre pretty nicely, except is not a mun kun see, is a pim sen mun.  I dont believe I would buy any other trees from them. Their soil mixes for potted plants are really good, I hve a 15 y/o adenium that was not doing well, had not bloomed in years. I bought their Adenium mix and within three months the tree was full of flowers.

My Nam Doc Mai only bloomed a few flowers around the lower branches.  The top, however, did not bloom this year. Maybe some branches are showing signs of the tree attempting to push some out. Can this variety bloom viable flowers in April?


Not an expert but I have heard that approach grafting works well with Jackfruit.  Several videos on Youtube on how to do it.  Not sure about star apple.

Well, I think I've decided to let the tree continue occupying space on my yard.  I have pruned it to a small size and it does not take much space.  This year it produced about 20 mangos and it is only about 7 ft tall.   Hopefully next year the fruit will continue improving and the production will increase.


Pim Sane Mun
Fruit description
This variety is green with no blush. It is elongated in shape.
Mun means Fatty. This cultivar has one of the strongest nutty flavours of the green eating types. Pim Sane Mun tends to produce many nubbins in the cooler growing regions. In Thailand, the nubbins are sold in the local markets as seedless mangoes.

I was mistaken about Cedar Bay/Rabaul being the same thing as the variety in question.

Well, now am confused,  my "Pim Sane Mun" do not stay green.  They turn greenish yellow (more yellow than nam docs) on the tree.  Then they take about three days to turn completely yellow as they become ripe.  Byt mine definitely have a blush (orange pinkish blush) before they turn completely canary yellow.

Is the description of this mango accurate in your experience? Top Tropicals nursery describes it as a very late mango: " It is a very late producer, fruit may still be on a tree as late as January."  My understanding is that here in Florida it is ready much earlier than that.


Sunny similar I think but doesn't look elongated enough with the flipped back tip. Named after the Mun River I presume and it is wider than a mile.

Pim sen Mun!  Thank You Squan256!   
They are very firm and the skin is very thin.  The seed not so thin.  Flavor is not bad, not very complex and lacking the acidity of Florida Mangos like Kent, for example, but they are sweet.  Overall not a bad mango.
I was hoping to get a very late producer like they describe the Mun Kun Si.  On the plus side, the tree appears to be compact and maybe next year production increases. Production this year was nothing to write home about, just like my Nam Doc. It produced about 15 to 20 mangos, but the tree is also about 7 ft, hopefully it will increase next season.

As far as the incorrect labeled tree, I must confess that the only luck I've had with TT is some Adenium soil I bought from them.  It has worked really well for my adeniums and they are blooming for the first time in five years.  But as far as fruit trees, I bought a Maha Chanok from them and when I pulled it out of the box it was completely dehydrated.  I called them to let them know and they told me to put it in the shade and not to over-water it, that it would recover.  It was a slow death for the tree as I suspected, but they never returned my money.  Oh Well, I dont hold grudges, maybe I will be luckier next time.
Thank You All.

They do not look like my MKS. 


If Mun Kun See is a Polyembrionic mango I would love to buy a seed from you.  Are you willing to sell me a seed if I send you a label for a small USPS priority mail box? 

Thank you Sleepdoc.  I dont think they are either.  Mine turn completely yellow and keep a pinkish hue as it gets closer to the stem, sort of like a Maha Chanok color.  They are very firm and, as I mention on my first post, some of them exhibit a protuberance close to the stem.  I could have sworn I have seen that little mound on the description of some other type of mango, I just cant remember which one.  Somehow I suspect this mango is "evolving" and hopefully next year it will be a much better mango. Last year all I got were some really tiny mangos, they ripened and most of them felled off. But none of them reached a large size.    At least this year they grew to about 6 inches in length.  Lets see what it does next season.

Thanks again.

Hi Folks,

So I purchased a "Mun Kun Si" mango tree from Top Tropicals about 4-5 years ago.  The tree bloomed last year but the fruit stayed tiny (about 2.5" long), and felled off.  This year it did set about 15 fruits, I just dont think they are Mun Kun Si, at least from the photos and characteristics I have seen online. The fruit starts turning completely yellow and acquire a  little bit of an orange / pinkish hue as it gets close to the stem. They have the typical shape of South East asian mangos , "s" shape  sort of rounded on top, more rounded than Nam Docs.
One of the characteristics I am hoping could help someone identify the fruit is that they have a small protuberance close to the stem.  This protuberance looks more like a small "beak" and, as the fruit ripens and turns yellow, it becomes more pointy and sharp.  It is not present on all fruits, but many of them have it. 
On these photos, the top mango has the "beak", the bottom one does not.  They are about 6" long each. Any thoughts?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Category 4 Hurricane Irma
« on: September 04, 2017, 08:07:05 PM »
Am watching the models right now and I am praying that the UKMET and HWRF are the most accurate ones.  Those two would place the storm south of Miami and perhaps heading into the golf.  Unfortunately, as these things go, its either us or somebody else. I just can not help to wish for it to be "not us." 

Could you set aside a Mexican Garcinia, please?

I will go by tomorrow afternoon.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / I finally got my Posh Te tree
« on: July 30, 2017, 09:18:43 PM »
So I logged in to  Hawaiian Tropical  Plant Nursery's website and saw they had a posh-te tree in stock. Went ahead and bought it along with a Rollinia tree I bought to meet the minimum purchase limit.  Will be receiving it Wednesday if everything goes well.  I have purchased trees from them before and they got home in excellent shape, so I expect this time will be no different.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Po Pyu Kalai mango question
« on: June 26, 2017, 09:48:48 PM »
After trying different Asian mangoes (Nam Doc Mai, Maha Chanok mainly)  I found the seed size of the Po Pyu Kalai mangos from Pine Island Nursery to be oddly oversized.   has anyone here had the opportunity to taste Po Pyu kalais from other nurseries, maybe a different cultivar, with a thin seed?


Back in the nineties my parents owned and operated a bakery and I am sort of familiar with how those pastries are made. I recall that guava paste came in square metal containers of several gallons and it was sort of a thick paste of  runny consistency (like a thick "soup".)   Once smeared inside the pastry dough and baked, it would solidify a bit more (exposed guava filling would also caramelize because of the sugar content.)  The process of taking it from the fruit form to the liquid paste I couldn't tell you, but am sure they use some type of food colorant to give it the bright red color.  So, you may want to start contacting some bakery supply store in Miami to find out the ingredients in the paste (maybe even buy a can to experiment with). I bet you a dime for a dollar that any guava variety will do, it just needs to be processed along with other ingredients and additives.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: MUN KUN SI
« on: May 17, 2017, 12:00:58 AM »
Can someone with Mun Kun Si growing experience tell me if the "very late" season advertised by Top Tropicals on the description of this mango is true?  Top Tropicals advertises this variety as being able to remain on the tree sometimes til January. Has anyone experienced this? My Mun Kun Si set some fruit for the first time this year and I was wondering how long I can expect them to remain on the tree.


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