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Who still has avocados in January and what variety? Also can you post a picture of your tree and rate its flavor if possible.  Also mention if you would recommend it to others and the location (city/state) where you are growing it.


Saw a lula, on my friends tree in Loxahatchee, and it was sweet tasting when I took it home Nice, but not my favorite.

Just picked a Choquette from my friends tree in Orlando, its huge fruit and beautiful tree, supposed to taste good but havent eaten yet.

Good luck :)

Adam...I remember you going into a lengthy explanation on yahoo as to why you prune your jabs in this manner.  Would you please share those explanations here?  Again...I'm sure more folks are interested in jabs but are scared off by the length of time it takes to begin fruiting.  Thanks.

Yes Jay,

the reason to prune them good and early (especially certain varieties with fruits on wood thicker than 2 inches or so), to establish the wood you have selected to fruit at an early period in the trees life, thereby forcing the tree to grow thicker on the branches you've chosen to keep, and fruit.

Don't let suckers (little branches that will make your jabo turn into a bush with no light penetrating old branches) over run your branches you've selected to fruit!

So that little Red Jaboticaba will fruit sooner, with less energy being devoted to vegetative growth in branches, and more to old wood and flower formation on the caulis. ;)

I also keep tips pruned to encourage branching, instead of long shoots, like in before picture of Sabara in ground.

PLEASE NOTE! the wood is hard as hell, and you'll need a saw for best pruning method of old large branches (bigger than 2inches), they can easily bend the best and largest loppers, and also grow in crazy angles that can make loppers impossible to use!  Get a good pruning saw if you want to prune a big one!! Oscar...i think this means u...LOL
Hope this helps more! :)

Thanks Jay!

OK Adam, you convinced me and inspired me! Will prune this jaboticaba tree that is 20+ years old and i've never once pruned. I'll try to take before and after photos.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what species you've airlayered?
« on: January 22, 2012, 05:47:33 PM »
being a close relative of lychee longan , i think its easily done... :)

you mean the spanish lime?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / what species you've airlayered?
« on: January 22, 2012, 03:51:19 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« on: January 22, 2012, 02:55:57 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: garcinia
« on: January 22, 2012, 02:20:07 PM »
Adam, no such thing as Garacinia santa cruz. I was calling it Achachairu from Santa Cruz to distinguish this fruit from other achachairus in Bolivia. All the rheedia species in Bolivia are called achachairu. There is also no such thing as Garcinia laterifolia. This is a name error, it is not an accepted name.  (See plantlist. org)So for now this plant has no official latin name. I'm just calling it Rheedia sp. or Garcinia sp.
It's a nice fruit but in my opinion not as good as a mangosteen, but sure is easier and faster than mangosteen.


Glad u clarified this for me!!!  I thought that the name santa cruz was no where to be found in txt i've read and looked like laterifolia....glad to be getting more of these! you think that is the fruit in the picture Noel posted?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: garcinia
« on: January 22, 2012, 01:01:07 AM »
I've seen a few different species names for the same fruit. I guess G. santa cruz is another to add to the list. Maybe one day with proper DNA testing the Garcinias will be properly labeled.

Ya, and we can stop arguing!  Garcinias and annonas seem to evoke the worst of debates!!  I just keep collecting, learning, and tasting!  I want a variety of species to say the least...G. parvifolia is supposed to be nice!

For now its who's the baby's real dad on Maury instead...why can't we spend some money on finding the garcinias real daddy?

Mod Edit: To get the quotes to work properly make sure to keep the first set of info in the brackets that mention the username and stuff.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: guanabana
« on: January 21, 2012, 11:41:14 PM »
32804 FL

Way far North of where they usually grow them in ground...

All of them in ground got hammered these past few cold winters, so only a fool like me who  had one in a pot got to eat the fruits!  I'm sure some had fruits in ground and pots to, but didn't document it, because its really no big deal to them.

To me it was!

I'm going to greenhouse the tree now, and prune it back some 18inches


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mongo sized Atemoya
« on: January 21, 2012, 09:37:59 PM »

Priestly atemoya?

That's what it looks to me...I've seen one that big on ground at fruit and spice park, it was amazing as well!


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: garcinia
« on: January 21, 2012, 07:58:45 PM »
The Achachairu (Garcinia spp?) is an awesome fruit ! One of the BEST garcinias I have tasted 


Looks like what they call the G. santa cruz i think...

until I see leaf....were they pointed almost like mango?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: garcinia
« on: January 21, 2012, 07:56:20 PM »
What is the lowest temp that these plants can stand? I have a few in pots, contemplating putting them in the ground, is that a bad idea? In my area, cold winter temps can be low 30s F. Can Garcinias fruit in containers?

They seem to handle 32F with no damage, I suppose temps of 25-28F could prove fatal if sustained for more than 8 hrs.

They can easily be fruited in pots, i have seen several species fruiting in pots and have some myself.

Be careful, once you grow garcinias, its over! u r hooked.  :P

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's about to get fun :)
« on: January 21, 2012, 07:26:31 PM »

I think u right, if it happened ever it was before 1800's because I can't find record of a hard freeze in March or April, even in Central FL for last 80yrs.

But I think the Full moon that comes around the second week in Feb, is the last chance to really have a hard freeze!!!

That's what my old friend told me tonight at least, been growing in Central FL for over 40yrs.

Thanks for correction! I thought I may be to paranoid! ??? :( ??? :(


Tropical Fruit Discussion / About Jaboticaba
« on: January 21, 2012, 04:52:36 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's about to get fun :)
« on: January 21, 2012, 04:47:31 PM »
I have fruit set already on my icecream and pickering mango!!! ??? ??? ???

We are out of whack!!! :o

It's a battle to keep watered, but not growing too fast, and trying to slow down metabolism of trees to save flowers that could be burned if grown at wrong time.

With annonas, especially, I find its easy to rot the roots if trying to push along through some freezes...


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's about to get fun :)
« on: January 21, 2012, 04:18:35 PM »
Be careful!

Don't count chickens before they hatch!

Freezes can occur up until April although very rare (if I'm not mistaken, although I usually am).

It would be best if most of the mangos could wait until Late Feb or March to push flowers.

One good thing, is mango can have flowers burned off about 3 or more times, and still make flowers and fruit!

I hope you have so much fruit you have to thin it out! ;)


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: garcinia
« on: January 21, 2012, 02:09:50 PM »

in the house:

G. intermedia
G. brasiliensis (supposed, flowers coming so we see i guess)
G. laterifolia
G. new mexican sp. 8)
G. livingstonei (fruiting) :)
G. magnifolia
G. ?? (sold as prainiana, but most likely a madruno sp. >:()

Need more G. sp to add to list!!! its too darn short! :-[


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: garcinia
« on: January 21, 2012, 02:00:29 PM »

That tree grew for the last 3 or 4 bitter Winters in TX? not FL!

I think it's gonna like its new home...Keep in a pot! I imagine it would be a hard tree to dig in 5yrs...the roots wound around the container bottom very very long.

And also your location will see temps in 20's sometimes briefly, (if u lucky) that tree needs FULL FULL sun 1000% lots of heat/moisture, and a little micro/and other fertilizers applied frequently in small doses.

I'm so happy you got some of these close to fruit!  They are the Beez Kneez for us in Central FL. ;D ;)

Adam :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: guanabana
« on: January 21, 2012, 01:48:12 PM »

This fruit had fiber, just like the ones used for juicing.  It was good eating to me though, tasting like Mountain Dew with a  Bubble Gum aroma.

Fibrous, but not stick in your teeth fiber, very soft and easy....good for bowels I'm sure.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: guanabana
« on: January 21, 2012, 01:44:45 PM »

Now you have the idea!!  Thanks!

BABY THAT bad mamajama!  They grow so fast from seed, should only really take 3-4yrs to start fruiting, mine had weather set backs each year, of some form.

They don't pollinate well either, my  tree made maybe 20 flowers before setting fruit.


You will feel sick inside when temps dip for first time of winter (55F) just like your baby!! I am now more sensitive to cold, because I care about the guanabana so much...I've never hated cold temps so much before growing this tree to fruition.

But when she fruits for you, it will be glorious.


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