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Grafting questions
toehead:
--- Quote from: vnomonee on March 13, 2025, 12:54:35 PM ---Don't mean to hijack your thread but I am curious about what your best grafting method is for persimmon. I have some Hachiya scions in the fridge. I want to replace a jiro fuyu so I was thinking of top working it and doing bark grafts and cleft grafts? Or should I keep some of the branches and do whip and tongue? I have never tried that graft! The jiro branches are growing in an umbrella form since I weighed the branches down, so I could potentially just graft all the sticks to those branches, would just have to keep up with pruning if any jiro buds pop out. Would much rather top work the entire tree. Could also bud around the trunk and see if any will grow, then chop the upper jiro part off? I don't want too tall of a tree either would rather bring it down.
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Wanted to throw in what i've learned about persimmon grafting to get better takes.
1) Graft in warm/hot weather with an actively growing rootstock. Temps are best when they are consistently in the mid/upper 70's.
- scion should be dormant, and 2 or three nodes long.
- wrap in parafilm
2) Use a bark graft technique with much more than the usual amount of inward pressure
- Scion should be trimmed to have a LONG contact point under the slipped bark.
- Inward pressure should be maintained: I typically use hose clamps of all things.
Until I was taught those things, I was frustrated with these trees. After, it isn't very difficult to graft at all.
vnomonee:
Whoops made a thread before seeing this. Thanks! It's still too early to graft in that case as we will continue to dip into the mid 30s and 40s overnight this coming week. Might try next Sunday!
--- Quote from: toehead on April 09, 2025, 12:13:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: vnomonee on March 13, 2025, 12:54:35 PM ---Don't mean to hijack your thread but I am curious about what your best grafting method is for persimmon. I have some Hachiya scions in the fridge. I want to replace a jiro fuyu so I was thinking of top working it and doing bark grafts and cleft grafts? Or should I keep some of the branches and do whip and tongue? I have never tried that graft! The jiro branches are growing in an umbrella form since I weighed the branches down, so I could potentially just graft all the sticks to those branches, would just have to keep up with pruning if any jiro buds pop out. Would much rather top work the entire tree. Could also bud around the trunk and see if any will grow, then chop the upper jiro part off? I don't want too tall of a tree either would rather bring it down.
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Wanted to throw in what i've learned about persimmon grafting to get better takes.
1) Graft in warm/hot weather with an actively growing rootstock. Temps are best when they are consistently in the mid/upper 70's.
- scion should be dormant, and 2 or three nodes long.
- wrap in parafilm
2) Use a bark graft technique with much more than the usual amount of inward pressure
- Scion should be trimmed to have a LONG contact point under the slipped bark.
- Inward pressure should be maintained: I typically use hose clamps of all things.
Until I was taught those things, I was frustrated with these trees. After, it isn't very difficult to graft at all.
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