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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: miracle on November 13, 2014, 04:50:26 PM
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Wonder anyone has cuttings? If not, I will grow from seeds ;D :(
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I don't. I also don't get the survey choices. The yellow undatus is from Israel, not Hawaii. They contract farms to grow it under non-propagation agreements.
So growing from seed is your best legal option unless someone else already did that and has seedling cuttings.
Better to start many seeds in case some of them revert to red skin.
How does it taste compared to red fleshed fruits? I always heard the taste is pretty inferior but people tend to get attracted by the rarer albino specimens anyway.
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When most people talk about 'Yellow Dragon Fruit', they are talking about Selenicereus megalanthus.
The Yellow undatus from Israel is very rare. I know nobody who is growing it in So Cal.
Selenicereus megalanthus fruit scores high in taste results and BRIX readings. The cons are the fruit is small, thorny, takes 6 months to ripen (also a pro), is not cold hardy, and is not heat tolerant in field trials.
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Miracle,
I don't know where you are in Los Angeles. I was at Champa Nursery in El Monte two days ago. I saw that the yellow dragon fruit was available. I didn't pay much attention because I was there looking for a sapodilla and biew kiew longan. You might want to check it out.
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They apparently sell this on ebay.
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Thanks, all.
Pasca, I am in Walnut-Diamond-Pomona area
fyliu,
Honestly, I did not know where it come from. I bought that fruit when I went vacation in Maui and Big Islands, Hawaii. It was very expensive ($15 for that fruit) because I was curious how it taste like.
Its taste is no different than the white dragon fruit that I grow. Just the yellow look that catch my attention.
Personally, I think the red dragon fruit is sweetest of all.
My yellow dragon fruit seedlings are growing about 8-10 in now. :) Thanks, I will keep one or two pots, just in case, it switches back from yellow to red. >:(
The yellow dragon fruit that Champa nursery sell that fruits are not the same with this yellow dragon above picture.
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Good luck with the seedlings. I haven't heard anybody growing it so no data on how it will turn out. Hopefully it will set fruit by itself.
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I don't. I also don't get the survey choices. The yellow undatus is from Israel, not Hawaii. They contract farms to grow it under non-propagation agreements.
So growing from seed is your best legal option unless someone else already did that and has seedling cuttings.
Better to start many seeds in case some of them revert to red skin.
How does it taste compared to red fleshed fruits? I always heard the taste is pretty inferior but people tend to get attracted by the rarer albino specimens anyway.
Actually, the yellow undatus is a subspecies of Hylocereus undatus, H. undatus ssp. luteocarpus, that was found in the Yucatan region of Mexico (see Calix de Dios, Haseltonia,11 :11-17. 2005). I have read that there are a number of selections in Israel, but they also grow it in Hawaii, and Oscar sells seeds of a yellow variety.
Since H. undatus is self fertile, I would expect this subspecies to be also, but the ease with which dragon fruit cross pollenate growing from seed would be a gamble.
I have been trying to get my hands on cuttings of this variety for a while now, and have plants from two different sources that purport to be yellow undatus, although neither has fruited for me yet. Unfortunately both of these plants look just like H. megalanthus, and nothing like H. undatus so I have no idea what they really are.
Richard
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Joey 'pepe' Paez III posted this on Facebook:
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which is not the same as miracle posted
(http://s30.postimg.cc/sawo7y32o/20130804_214031_1.jpg)
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Yes, Ricshaw. Too many thorns on fruit for this yellow one. It is a challenge to eat :(. I like the yellow dragon fruit that have smooth skin as the regular red dragon fruit.
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Yes, Ricshaw. Too many thorns on fruit for this yellow one. It is a challenge to eat :(. I like the yellow dragon fruit that have smooth skin as the regular red dragon fruit.
Let us know if you find a source for the Yellow Undatus in SoCal.
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I only have seedling now. They are about 8-10 inches. I trimmed all the suckers, just leave the main trunk. I reported in 1 gallon pot. Hopefully, it will take off fast and will survive this winter.
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Miracle, how long did it take for your seeds to sprout?
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The seeds sprouted within a week in a mini tropical environment that I created by putting the whole pot into a clear plastic bag, tied at the end. I kept in there almost three months. They grew fast. Then, you need to pock small holes to larger holes on the bag to expose the seedlings to the outside environment slowly. If open the bag right away your seedlings will die. :o
Good luck
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You don't really have to remove the other branches I think. The extra chlorophyll will help it grow faster. Eventually one or two will end up larger than the rest and become the main trunk. Just a thought. Seems like you're doing well so keep doing it.
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Thanks...all.
Here is my progress from July 2013 to now...i still do not know where I can plant all of them :)
(http://s30.postimg.cc/3rszcx8a5/Photo_Grid_1414967270400_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/3rszcx8a5/)
(http://s30.postimg.cc/827n8idd9/Photo_Grid_1416257724440_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/827n8idd9/)
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Nice seedlings!
Good luck with them, and keep us informed on how the do for you. It would be great to have the Yellow Undatus available in California.
Richard
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Thanks...all.
Here is my progress from July 2013 to now...i still do not know where I can plant all of them :)
(http://s30.postimg.cc/3rszcx8a5/Photo_Grid_1414967270400_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/3rszcx8a5/)
(http://s30.postimg.cc/827n8idd9/Photo_Grid_1416257724440_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/827n8idd9/)
Update: August 10, 2015...two years later from seeds...
finally I only kept and planted two in ground and one in container...hopefully they will have yellow dragon fruit in next two years...If any of them reverse back to red color fruit... it will be ax ... >:(
(http://s1.postimg.cc/uaak36umz/20150808_082051_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/uaak36umz/)
(http://s3.postimg.cc/dgkywkfgf/20150808_081848_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/dgkywkfgf/)
(http://s23.postimg.cc/6js3udtvr/20150808_082012_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6js3udtvr/)
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Almost 4 years, Now the yellow draon fruits has a first flowers :)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/gdr61qj1r/20170511_145139_resized.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gdr61qj1r/)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/g29poz2lr/20170511_160750_resized.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g29poz2lr/)
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Great progress. Hope you get good fruits from it.
Are you going to pollinate it or wait to see if it's self fruitful?
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Thank you, fyliu
I will leave the bees do their job for one year to see whether it will set fruit or not.
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When the time comes, see if the stamen and pistil are equal in length. Most of the time the pistil sticks out way too much and the bees just ignore that part of the flower and don't pollinate it.
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The fruit from the Yellow Undatus was really bland. I don't remember which thread I posted about the taste. It tastes about the same as the typical supermarket white fleshed variety of Dragonfruit.
The Megalanthus on the other hand is a very sweet and tasty fruit.
Simon
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Yes, simon_grow, the yellow dragon fruit I ate in Hawaii was very bland.
I also notice with my other dragon fruits: red and white fleshs. I feed them with cow manure or chicken manure, and spray them with Epsom salt. Their fruits are very sweet.
Filiu, I will keep my eye on the flower. Thanks
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Very beautiful setup. Thank you for the inspiration.
I'm planning to step up my yellow dragon fruit into a similar configuration.
Almost 4 years, Now the yellow draon fruits has a first flowers :)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/gdr61qj1r/20170511_145139_resized.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gdr61qj1r/)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/g29poz2lr/20170511_160750_resized.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g29poz2lr/)
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"The Megalanthus on the other hand is a very sweet and tasty fruit."
Thank you for the very important information above. I have the Yellow-Dragon-Fruit (YDF), but I don't know if it's the 'Megalanthus' variety. I now have to get the 'Megalanthus' just to be on the safe side. I won't mind having two YDF plants if they are the same sweet variety, especially since the fruit is smaller than the Red-Dragon Fruit.
The fruit from the Yellow Undatus was really bland. I don't remember which thread I posted about the taste. It tastes about the same as the typical supermarket white fleshed variety of Dragonfruit.
The Megalanthus on the other hand is a very sweet and tasty fruit.
Simon
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It's easy to tell the difference between the Undatus and the Megalanthus. The ins on the Megalanthus are scalloped. If you post a picture, we can identify it for you.
Simon
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Thank you, Leooel
Very simple. One 54" tomato case and two pieces 1/2" or 3/4"electrical EMT from Lowe's or Home Depot. Cutting the 10-ft EMT in half. Two pieces 3/4" or 1" plastc PVC, 3-ft long. I put the plastic pot inside the clay pot. Later if the top of your dragon fruit is too heavy, you can add rock to the pot to counter weight. I like to train my DF in a shape like an umbrella in early stage.
Good luck
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Thanks...all.
Here is my progress from July 2013 to now...i still do not know where I can plant all of them :)
(http://s30.postimg.cc/3rszcx8a5/Photo_Grid_1414967270400_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/3rszcx8a5/)
(http://s30.postimg.cc/827n8idd9/Photo_Grid_1416257724440_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/827n8idd9/)
August 2017 update.
YDF grows in fourth year from seeds
Two yellow dragon fruits in pot do much better (flowers) than two yellow dragon fruits in the ground (no flower).
The seedling yellow dragon fruits set fruit by itself.
Now I have to wait to see my seedling yellow dragon fruits reverts back to red or not as Mr. Fyliu said.
(https://s3.postimg.cc/ej5x8ymgf/20170817_190549.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ej5x8ymgf/)
(https://s12.postimg.cc/u4kozy1qh/20170817_190609.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u4kozy1qh/)
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(https://s1.postimg.cc/14zx5erk57/20171020_195324.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/14zx5erk57/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/2x5neh02az/20171020_195238.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/2x5neh02az/)
This is what I got from growing the yellow dragon fruit from seeds after 4 years. The fruit that I got from a yellow dragon fruit seedling is red inside and outside. Completely different fruit than the one I got seeds from a yellow dragon fruit in previous posts. Why?
Plant is self fertility. No hand pollination is needed. Plant does very well both in pot and in ground.
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I have a 3 foot long rooted cutting from a friend here, just transplanted it fron a ploy to the arbor, I read somewhere they like less water than the other varieties.
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(https://s1.postimg.cc/14zx5erk57/20171020_195324.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/14zx5erk57/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/2x5neh02az/20171020_195238.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/2x5neh02az/)
This is what I got from growing the yellow dragon fruit from seeds after 4 years. The fruit that I got from a yellow dragon fruit seedling is red inside and outside. Completely different fruit than the one I got seeds from a yellow dragon fruit in previous posts. Why?
Plant is self fertility. No hand pollination is needed. Plant does very well both in pot and in ground.
Why? Seeds do not produce clones of the fruit they come from. Each seed is a new hybrid.
By any chance... did you sell cuttings of your yellow Dragon Fruit grown from seeds on eBay? :(
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Best to grow many seeds for better odds. Hopefully it tastes good. Still a win if it doesn't require manual pollination.
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(https://s1.postimg.cc/14zx5erk57/20171020_195324.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/14zx5erk57/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/2x5neh02az/20171020_195238.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/2x5neh02az/)
This is what I got from growing the yellow dragon fruit from seeds after 4 years. The fruit that I got from a yellow dragon fruit seedling is red inside and outside. Completely different fruit than the one I got seeds from a yellow dragon fruit in previous posts. Why?
Plant is self fertility. No hand pollination is needed. Plant does very well both in pot and in ground.
Why? Seeds do not produce clones of the fruit they come from. Each seed is a new hybrid.
By any chance... did you sell cuttings of your yellow Dragon Fruit grown from seeds on eBay? :(
I do not sell anything on Ebay. All seedlings are given out to friends and co workers. I hope some of the seedlings will produce a yellow fruit, then I will ask them to share back a branch to me.
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Best to grow many seeds for better odds. Hopefully it tastes good. Still a win if it doesn't require manual pollination.
You are right... I only kept about 10 seedlings (out of 100 seedlings) in one pot and two places in ground. So far the ones had fruits are red inside and outside. One plant does not have any flowers yet.
Taste are sweet, but not as sweeter than the other red dragon fruit that I grows.
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I have a 3 foot long rooted cutting from a friend here, just transplanted it fron a ploy to the arbor, I read somewhere they like less water than the other varieties.
I water mine the same as other dragon fruits. FYI
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I have a 3 foot long rooted cutting from a friend here, just transplanted it fron a ploy to the arbor, I read somewhere they like less water than the other varieties.
Are you thinking of the yellow Megalanthus variety?