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Hi folks!
You can visit La Conception botanical garden. They introduce new fruit tree when I was there 6 years ago. Curious if the jackfruit, litchi, longan, banana Cavendish, sapote mamey are still there? Please let me know!
There are also a fruit festival this year at Rufino (he is passionate by tropical fruit, you should go and visit his land).

There are many interesting producer of mango between Motril / Nerja/ Velez Malaga, as well as nurseries.
By the way, anyone know if frutales tropicales nursery still exist (they used to have rare tropical fruit)?

I was wondering whether you grow this avocado tree outside or inside the greenhouse ?
What is the minimal temperature the tree has to handle ?
Thank you,

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Casimiroa pringlei
« on: March 31, 2021, 03:48:29 AM »
Thank you for all this valuable information.
I have a few questions:
- have you ever tasted casimiroa pringlei? Is it much more bitter than casimiroa edulis?
- how did casimiroa edulis perform in Texas during this cold snap?
- More generally, are there hardy varieties of avocado trees in Texas (fantastic, wilma...) did they survive this rare event?
- Did citrus trees also survive?
I think this kind of climatic event can help to select hardy varieties.
I would be very interested to have some seeds of casimiro pringlei because here in France the conditions are too cold for casimiroa edulis. Please contact me by PM.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Searching Chaffey Cherimoya seeds
« on: October 28, 2020, 05:48:11 AM »
It seems that Chaffey cherimoya is relatively  cold hardy. I would be interested in some seeds, if anyone has this variety (no other variety unless they are even more resistant to cold).
Please contact me by private message with your conditions?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Searching Sapote Pringlei seeds
« on: August 17, 2020, 05:39:43 AM »
I'm looking for fresh Sapote Pringlei seeds.
Thank You

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Successfull zone pushing examples
« on: October 22, 2019, 08:40:18 AM »
I'm in USDA zone 9a. In February 2018, we had very cold temperature. In my garden, about -9°C. Sapote Blanco ( Casimiroa edulis) survived, the young and tender leaves drop, but the trees recover well during the summer.
Tamarillo (Solanum betaceum) all aerial parts were damaged, but also recover well. Some avocado tree dies, but not all ! Citrus were fine.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best places for fruit hunting in S France
« on: September 20, 2019, 03:36:50 PM »
Do you find interesting places in France?
I think that people in France are rarely cultivating eddible fruits. they focus on decorative plants and flowers.

If you really care about rare\exotic plants, there's nothing like Menton in France. A gardener told me that in garavan (a quartier of Menton) there were no frost during the xx century.
Last week I saw a ceriman (Monstera deliciosa) fruiting. In Val rameh botanic garden there's a large Bombax ceiba. Near the casino a very big Ficus ellastica, and near Menton at Roquebrune you will find the oldest Oliver tree (some people claim it's the oldest three on Earth, but I think it's not...).
I wrote several articles on my blog about this unexpected USDA zone 11 in France:

I would recommend you to visit Menton if you like nice gardens.
You will find more information here:
Near Menton : jardin botanique de Monaco, villa hambury (Italia)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: July 02, 2019, 05:15:53 AM »
cherimoya should do fine in poor soil and hot weather. In fact I have a few seedlings that are grown in pure desert soil.

As for Avocado, it does not do well in hot weather but, It can be grown in a little bit of shade.
Incredible !!! I 'm very surprised, shade must be very helpful.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: July 02, 2019, 05:13:49 AM »
Check the ph because that wall its made of calcareous stone .Even if they are tolerant of alkaline conditions ,the alkalinity near that wall might be too much for them especially after a rainy season because the rain water draws CO2 from air and becomes slightly acid and then it dissolves a little of that wall .
So I have just bought a PH meter it indicates 6.0. What do you think ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: June 28, 2019, 11:55:24 AM »
it would not be recommended to plant cherimoya in any area where solanaceous plants
It will be hard to follow this tip as I have planted almost everywhere physalis and tomatos... Definitively, I think that I will have more chance to grow cherimoya in Menton (cause it's a new garden !)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: June 28, 2019, 11:23:36 AM »
This picture show a Mexicola tree...

In the pot a cherimoya seedling from Madeira, un front seedlings from Spain.

Near Nīmes, in a small town called Gallargue, temperature reached 45.8°C (114.4°F). This is the record of all Time for France...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: June 28, 2019, 11:04:47 AM »
Thank you for all those informations !
Did you measured the soil ph?
No I dont. This small garden, in the city center of Nīmes it's reputed to be more or less neutral (7). But when you dig you find some calcaire stones cause Nīmes is an old gallo-romain city (2500 years).
Today the temperature in Nīmes are very high (44.4°C).
The cherimoya seedlings suffer a lot (but the seedlings from Madeira seems Ok). And avocado looks very Bad... I will post pictures.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: June 27, 2019, 12:11:31 PM »
Did you see anything on the roots when you removed the tree?   
When I removed the plant, there where root rot, not a single small root visible.
Today, temperature are higher than 40°C... Dont know if they will survive   :-\

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: June 26, 2019, 11:21:03 AM »
Thank you.
I have 3 Fino del jete in pots (1.5 m. high, with flowers !). Do you recommand to plant them next spring ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: June 26, 2019, 11:11:24 AM »
Unfortunatly, I remove the plant. Too much water is possible, but a big avocado (4 meters high at least) near the dead plant has no problem...
Are cherimoya so sensitive to overwatering ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: June 26, 2019, 10:53:46 AM »
I dont think salt is the problem.
In Nīmes, I'm 50 km from the coast, and they only recieve rain water.
I manage to grow sucessfully in Nīmes : avocado, tamarillo, sapote Blanco and citrus.
Here is my garden blog :

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Growing cherimoya in France
« on: June 26, 2019, 09:51:02 AM »
I would like to grow cherimoya in France !
I live in Nīmes (9A). I have try direct seedlings, grafted trees (fino del jete from Spain). My trees die often in spring, maybe it's because of the wind, the cold and rainy winter (but the new leaves appears, and the plant start to die)... I don't know why ?

Cherimoya grows in Menton (10A or 10B), just few meters from the sea.

I recently bought a terrain near Menton (the best climate in France between Monaco and Italy) almost no frost and no wind ! But the maximum temperature in winter is cold (about 13°C average high in winter). As I'm not millionare, my garden is 3 km far from the coast (elevation 250 m., no frost this year). What do you think? Is there any frost resistant species ?
Any advice would be appreciate   ;)
Do you think it would be possible ?

Hello Linsect !

On the left Sapotilla (Manilkara huberi)           On the right Duku / Langsat (Lansium parasiticum)

Nice Marang (Artocarpus odoratissimus)!

Is it mangga Kweni (Mangifera odorata Griffith) ?

Nice done with durian ! Is it true that red durian (Durio oxleyanus) from montain area can survive up to 0°C ?


PS Thanks Linsect for your latest seeds from Andalusia cold hardly avocado and chirimoya are very rare, I hope I can acclimate them in south France (9a).

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