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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: experience growing rare species of annona
« on: October 20, 2022, 09:28:05 AM »
Dear gardeners, I have a suggestion to collect as much information as possible based on your personal experience growing rare species of annona. I am interested in your impressions about the taste qualities of fruits (sweetness, aroma, bad aftertaste, presence or absence of fibers), the period from planting seeds and the beginning of fruiting. What information do you have on the following species of annona: A.crassiflora, A.coriacea, A.vepretorum, A.salmaznii, A. sylvatica, A.neolaurifolia, A. stenophylla and others.
I have a couple of these species, and while I unfortunately can't offer any information on time to fruit and taste, I can share my experience with germination.

A. crassiflora I got recently; 90% of the seeds came up within 4 weeks, and they have nice, meaty stems. I expect them to be vigorous growers. A. vepretorum has a quite low germination rate in my experience, only 20%. Out of the ten seeds I tried growing, only two sprouted, and one is stunted. The one that is doing well does seem to grow fairly well though, as it's nearly a foot and a half tall after 9 months.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrel battle
« on: September 16, 2022, 08:36:48 PM »
If it weren't for the fact that I live in a suburban neighborhood, I would just shoot them with my .22. Since I can't do that, I use bucket traps. Just fill it with 5 inches of water, and float a plastic/paper plate with seed on top. When I catch one, I stack another bucket inside to force them to swim in the water, and they usually drown in 5 minutes.

I prefer shooting them. While they may cause my plants to suffer, I have no interest in causing them to suffer. Drowning is not a particularly good way to go; whatever is being drowned definitely suffers. One pellet shot to right spot and they are dead before they even know what hit them. A .22 is a little too loud for a neighborhood, particularly depending on the neighbors. Such situations make a pellet gun a good thing to have around.
I'll definitely look into that. I certainly don't care for drowning them due to the reasons you mentioned, but it's the best method I have at the moment. A pellet gun seems like a happy medium though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrel battle
« on: September 16, 2022, 06:10:10 PM »
If it weren't for the fact that I live in a suburban neighborhood, I would just shoot them with my .22. Since I can't do that, I use bucket traps. Just fill it with 5 inches of water, and float a plastic/paper plate with seed on top. When I catch one, I stack another bucket inside to force them to swim in the water, and they usually drown in 5 minutes.

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I told myself I wasn't going to buy any more plants this year, but a lot of HapaJoe's selection was just too tempting. I bought Duguetia stenantha and annona dioica seeds, and was blown away with what I received. Duguetia seeds are hard to find fresh, but his are the best I've seen, as half the ones I received were already germinated. Annona dioica seeds also have a reputation for being difficult to germinate if they aren't fresh, but all of the seeds I received from him were firm and sank in water, so I trust they're all viable. On top of the quality of the seeds, he also included a couple extras.

While some of Joe's seeds are expensive, you get what you pay for at his shop. If you buy a seed from him, it will almost definitely grow into a plant in my experience.

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I'm assuming you were simular to me in that you made some improvements the second go around.

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If you're still looking for kratom, send D-grower a message. I know he's sold fresh seeds in the past.

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For anything larger than seeds or seedlings, I tend to go with UPS for this reason. They're generally cheaper for larger packages, and usually always handle them better.

I once had a family member send me a valuable coin in an envelope as a gift, and when I received the envelope, it was slit open and the coin was missing. I've seen the same thing happen with prescription medication, they'll slit open the package and peek inside to see if it's something they want.

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Just got my sugar apple seedling in the mail from W, I strongly doubt I could have gotten a better plant for the price. Exceptional packaging, shipping time, and quality plant.

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Ackee might be worth looking for, from what I've heard it's very common in Jamaica.

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Got my seeds a while back, and just wanted to say how impressed I am with them. I ordered 5 Annona rugulosa seeds expecting only 1-3 of them to sprout, but all of them have germinated. These are probably the best annona seeds I've ordered. The jabo and myrcia seeds I bought are also just now sprouting and are very vigorous. You definitely can't go wrong ordering from BellamyTrees.

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I think it may be too late to graft pawpaw. It should be done when the root stock is just putting out leaves the size of a squirrels ear. This is usually in March or April.
Good to know, I'll try again next year. My tree is leafing out late, but I forget that scion wood has already leafed out. Thanks for the tip.

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Any chance you'd be willing to send out the feijoa seedlings for the cost of shipping? I didn't have any luck trying to grow them from cuttings.

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I recently picked up an 8' tree, and I'm looking to make it a cocktail tree so I can get fruit sooner/on a single tree. Given that, I'd like to get 4-6 total scions from various varieties. I'm not too picky about what varieties they are, as long as it's a good mix, maybe 1-2 of each.

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Posting to tropical buy/sell instead, please delete.

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I recently picked up an 8' seedling tree, and I'm looking to make it a cocktail tree so I can get fruit sooner/on a single tree. Given that, I'd like 4-6 total scions from various varieties. I'm not too picky about what varieties they are, as long as it's a good mix, maybe 1-2 of each.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Annona dioica seeds
« on: May 06, 2022, 07:34:23 AM »
Easier to find scions and graft to an easier to find Annona.
I donít think this oneís been fruited in the US before.
I had a big one grafted on Cherimoya but gave it away.
Probably going to require the pollen collection at night and pollinate in the morning like other Annona.
I had no idea it was so tough to fruit, although hand pollinating won't be an issue for me. I just found it appealing because it makes large fruit and stays compact. Scions would work too if I could find them, I'll just have to buy some rootstock from someone as I just grafted everything I have on hand at the moment.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB Annona dioica seeds
« on: May 04, 2022, 10:24:16 PM »
Looking to buy a handful of dioica seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wild Annona from Dominican Republic
« on: May 04, 2022, 09:03:57 PM »
I'm at an absolute loss. Looks like glabra to me.

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I'm in a fairly similar boat as you are. Just a little further south in 8a, and a year or two ahead of you.

I started collecting and growing these plants during my senior year of high school, and it all started with just some peppers, tomatoes, and a blueberry bush. After I discovered I could buy mango and guava seedlings off ebay, into the rabbit hole I went. I bought a lot of 3 gallon trees that year, almost entirely cherimoya, atemoya, and sugar apple. Three flowered, two set fruit, but for a number of reasons, they dropped them after a few months. Now that I better know what I'm doing, hopefully this will be the year.

There were a number of times where I considered cutting my losses where I'm at now and giving up. I bought $40 worth of african annona seeds, none of them germinated, and to add insult to injury, the cats used the pots as litter boxes. The other thing I constantly wonder is, when is it enough? Between audio, custom keyboards, computers, and aquariums, when should I stop funneling money into this and focus more on those hobbies? Am I even going to be able to care for the plants I have now come 3-5 years, much less the ones I plan to buy? I'm sure everyone has had set backs in this hobby, doubts enter their mind, moments where they asked themselves "is it worth it?", but I find it's best to focus on the good.

My doctor white cherimoya is a solid 4-5 ft with a 1 inch trunk, I'll be damned if it doesn't flower and set fruit this year. I know it's ready. My booth, AP, and sugar apple are all right behind it too, so worst case scenario, it'll be next year. That comes quicker than you'd think. In place of those african annonas, I now have A. vepretorum and A. monticola seeds that just recently sprouted and are growing like weeds; I'd be astonished if I managed to kill them with the level of vigor they're showing. My mangos are also finally putting out new growth, and they're growing quicker than probably any plant I've ever owned. I swear a branch on my Carrie grew half an inch just overnight. There's other things to look forward too as well, like whether my psidium longipetiolum will actually survive my 8a winters once it gets large enough to go in ground. With reports of it surviving 14-19 f, it seems promising. So even if my cats insist on killing a quarter of my plants, I have reasons to keep going.

With as many setbacks as you may face in this hobby, it's best to look at what you've accomplished, and what you will accomplish. Think of all the fruit that you've gotten to try that would otherwise have been unavailable to you. Think of everything you've learned along the way, and the people you've met on this forum, I know I'm certainly thankful for that.

Another thing to keep in mind is that you may have some things available to you in Tennessee that others may not. For example, I wanted to keep freshwater stingrays for the longest time, but they're illegal in Georgia. I even looked into getting a permit to keep them, but the amount of hoops you have to jump through just makes it not worth it. They're also illegal in Florida, California, and Texas, all states where you can grow a lot of these tropical fruits, but they're not illegal in Tennessee. Now, I doubt you'll go buy a 400 gallon aquarium tomorrow to go keep stingrays, but my point is that you may be able to do some things in Tennessee that people in those warmer states may not be able to do.
I've been into the aquascaping hobby a bit cause of my friends, but gave up on it after seeing that plants are better.
I've faced a lot of losses so far. For example, take the yangmei. I participated in 2 group orders, and didn't get a single tree to survive. I spent 100's of dollars trying to get those things to grow. But I still persisted and now have 3 trees that are alive and well. If I stopped I would never had succeeded. I'm glad the psidium I gave you is doing well. I heard they are cold tolerant to 15, but I brought mine out in 32 degree weather and it got beat up.
There are setbacks, but at least for the most part 98% of what I have grows here, maybe just at a slower rate.
I don't plan to let that psidium see cold weather until it gets a solid 0.5-1 inch trunk on it. Losses are just going to be a part of this hobby. I can't tell you how many hundreds in dollars of rare fish I've lost, and it tore me up every time. Always due to freak accidents too, fish gets sucked into the filter, the water I used for a water change was a few degrees too cold, some random disease gets introduced into the tank that I don't have medication on hand for. I assumed some of the same losses would happen when I started this hobby.

Also, I wouldn't entirely give up on annonas quite yet. It might just be the species you're growing, the seeds you're using, or the soil you're using. I'm sure you can get at least one species to work for you. Pawpaws might also be of interest to you, since they're the closest relative we have to annonas in a temperate climate.

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I bought $40 worth of african annona seeds, none of them germinated, and to add insult to injury, the cats used the pots as litter boxes.
Me too! Those african annona seeds on etsy looked so good. But nothing germinated. And my cats love using my pots as litter boxes. I cut cardboard and put it over the top of them all! Time to toss the cats and keep the plants
I'll have to try that when this winter rolls around. I was initially thinking about a layer of lava rock on top of the soil, as I've read cats don't like to walk on it, but the cardboard seems like it would be better for more delicate seedlings.

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I'm in a fairly similar boat as you are. Just a little further south in 8a, and a year or two ahead of you.

I started collecting and growing these plants during my senior year of high school, and it all started with just some peppers, tomatoes, and a blueberry bush. After I discovered I could buy mango and guava seedlings off ebay, into the rabbit hole I went. I bought a lot of 3 gallon trees that year, almost entirely cherimoya, atemoya, and sugar apple. Three flowered, two set fruit, but for a number of reasons, they dropped them after a few months. Now that I better know what I'm doing, hopefully this will be the year.

There were a number of times where I considered cutting my losses where I'm at now and giving up. I bought $40 worth of african annona seeds, none of them germinated, and to add insult to injury, the cats used the pots as litter boxes. The other thing I constantly wonder is, when is it enough? Between audio, custom keyboards, computers, and aquariums, when should I stop funneling money into this and focus more on those hobbies? Am I even going to be able to care for the plants I have now come 3-5 years, much less the ones I plan to buy? I'm sure everyone has had set backs in this hobby, doubts enter their mind, moments where they asked themselves "is it worth it?", but I find it's best to focus on the good.

My doctor white cherimoya is a solid 4-5 ft with a 1 inch trunk, I'll be damned if it doesn't flower and set fruit this year. I know it's ready. My booth, AP, and sugar apple are all right behind it too, so worst case scenario, it'll be next year. That comes quicker than you'd think. In place of those african annonas, I now have A. vepretorum and A. monticola seeds that just recently sprouted and are growing like weeds; I'd be astonished if I managed to kill them with the level of vigor they're showing. My mangos are also finally putting out new growth, and they're growing quicker than probably any plant I've ever owned. I swear a branch on my Carrie grew half an inch just overnight. There's other things to look forward too as well, like whether my psidium longipetiolum will actually survive my 8a winters once it gets large enough to go in ground. With reports of it surviving 14-19 f, it seems promising. So even if my cats insist on killing a quarter of my plants, I have reasons to keep going.

With as many setbacks as you may face in this hobby, it's best to look at what you've accomplished, and what you will accomplish. Think of all the fruit that you've gotten to try that would otherwise have been unavailable to you. Think of everything you've learned along the way, and the people you've met on this forum, I know I'm certainly thankful for that.

Another thing to keep in mind is that you may have some things available to you in Tennessee that others may not. For example, I wanted to keep freshwater stingrays for the longest time, but they're illegal in Georgia. I even looked into getting a permit to keep them, but the amount of hoops you have to jump through just makes it not worth it. They're also illegal in Florida, California, and Texas, all states where you can grow a lot of these tropical fruits, but they're not illegal in Tennessee. Now, I doubt you'll go buy a 400 gallon aquarium tomorrow to go keep stingrays, but my point is that you may be able to do some things in Tennessee that people in those warmer states may not be able to do.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds for sale
« on: April 23, 2022, 05:35:36 PM »
Grimal seeds just arrived in good shape, and an extra was included. Highly recommend this seller!

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