The Tropical Fruit Forum

I assume this is in response to the resin component near the skin.

It seems there is a strong bias in the Aussie region against mangoes with any kind of resinous component towards the skin, what is commonly sought after in India and the Caribbean. There are many kinds of resin that you can find in mangoes, with the kind in Keitt likely being passed down from the Haden (which got it from turpentine). I'm not a fan of that resin either, but I do strongly favor other types of resin in mangoes like Kesar, Alphonse, and Julie. I actually love Keitt, but quality in commercially harvested ones varies so strongly due to cultivation and harvesting practices that I would recommend growing it yourself and harvesting a well grown and ripened fruit before judging.

On the topic of resin, many people stateside call Aussie mangoes resinous, judging the strong parsnip flavor near the skin as a chemical component, so taste preferences vary greatly with region. Mangoes like Bowen and Maha would fall under this group.

That same resin you dislike is present in the mango favored in South Florida (CAC or COC), and it also has the parsnip flavor, so you will find people on both sides of the pacific who dislike this one as well based on resin.

Very few of the American ones are descended from Keitt with a few notable exceptions, but many American mangoes do contain a resin component Aussies will dislike. That said I've tasted quite a few of the newer selections, and I don't taste it in any of the newer ones like M4 or Cotton Candy (both Keitt seedlings), nor do I taste it in any of the Kent descendants.

Kent has a resinous component from Haden, but it isn't anything like the one in Tommy or Keitt.

Try getting a hold of the Guava or Sein Ta Lone mango if you can, it has an altogether different resin, but it's got a lot more going on and is fantastic (poly too).

Bovine, good job.  I too learned so much here.

1 holdout (Maha) yet to fruit planted 2-3yrs ago & i cut in half to branch out. 
Never tasted a Maha. 

It's a nice balance between indochinese and classic. I describe it as a parsnip and durio combo.

Thanks for the info! I am on the hunt for low chill varieties. I may have access to some but curious what you might have. Also looking for a variety of other low chill species including apples, prunus, Mulberry, persimmon, and Asian pear.

Where you are blight resistance should be the number one concern. I planted in Alabama: Shin Li, Dasui Li, Warren, and Potomac.

Of these Warren is the least vigorous and Potomac the most.

For Prunus I planted Florida Glo and Jefferson Green Gage, but I would also plant Inca Plum if available.

There should be no issues with any persimmon, but I'm partial to the pollination variant ones.

I didn't plant mulberries there, but I get plenty of them in SoCal. I will be planting them in WA when I get some, chill hours shouldn't be a consideration for these, but performance in wet weather should. I read somewhere in the Panhandle someone was getting fruit from Morus nigra by specially treating their tree, but I forget if it was by removing diseased leaves or by spraying. Most reports are that nigra is too difficult and instead efforts should be given towards alba and rubra types. My favorite by far of that group is the Frank's yellow, which appears synonymous with Aus green, White Shatoot, Sharahanpur Local, and others.

We got in excess of 600 Chill hours in AL, but I think you should be able to get the Asian pears to fruit, you may be able to get blooms out of Warren and Potomac, it's worth trying, scions are cheap and available online, I do have some spares if unable to locate.

If scions are dormant, it's super easy. I have some scions of low chill varieties, what were you looking for?

If you want to use the already leafed out scions, it's much more challenging, but as long as the rootstock is pushing hard, you still may get good results. Try using a plastic bag and moist paper towel inside it to keep the humidity high, as the non-hardened off growth will dry out quickly while the graft is healing. Also make sure to cover that bag in foil or newspaper to prevent the light from frying the tender growth.

Best bet is to get dormant scions however.

It's impressa type as you've noted, it could be Fino De Jete, but there are a number of popular impressa type cherimoyas around.

If you prune to create a denser canopy (opposite of what you do for prunus), you may have a higher incidence of self pollination. The key is to keep the humidity high so the female part of the flower doesn't dry out before the pollen is ready. You can spray the canopy with a hose or use foggers on a timer as well to try to increase the humidity.

Quote from: EddieF on February 02, 2024, 09:25:44 PM

Peach Cobbler- making mostly leaves not flowers.  Will be my 1st tasting though so i'm looking forward to it  

shot, cool. 

I love watching the reaction of people who try the Peach Cobbler mango for the first time.  Hope you get fruit.

It's an impressive fruit for sure, I'm curious how much better it will taste in SoCal. High vigor and poly seeds, so it's an ideal choice for SoCal.

I hope it gets a more appropriate name soon.

Super late season fruit and no red blush. I'm interested if it's any good.

No, that's a morus alba.

Extreme levels of patience.

Mango season isn't here yet. But I figured I'd bump up this thread as I'm still on the hunt.

The current list looks like this:
Mesk
USDA Taymour
Giselle
Creme Brulee
E4
M4

I'd be having the fruit/seed shipped to a state where it's accepted, and I'm more or less trying to get people who have these trees to just know there's demand if/when they get fruit this year.

Thank you for reading.

Good call on spreading it around.

Even if the fruit isn't as good as you'd hoped, you'll still have a large rootstock ready to graft once it starts fruiting.