Author Topic: One Seed Loquat Fruit (Read 4632 times)

sc4001992 · « **on:** May 09, 2021, 03:16:23 PM »

Just curious if anyone else has a loquat tree which grows fruits with only 1 seed. This is not quite a seedless loquat but for me it's probably the closest thing I will get naturally grown.

I have a seedling tree that fruited first time this year where all the fruits had only 1 seed. I didn't notice at first and thought the fruits were on the small side. Then when I realized the fruits only had 1 seed, I thought this might be a neat tree to keep around and see how it does next year. Since I have so many seedling trees that fruit, sometimes I forget to check for unique fruits like this.

I'll post some photos later.

kapps · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2021, 06:05:19 PM »

My Champagne has only one seed.

marklee · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2021, 07:08:38 PM »

Jim Neitzel had one he called "onsey-twosey, because of the low seed count.

Oolie · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2021, 07:12:17 PM »

Quote from: marklee on May 09, 2021, 07:08:38 PM

Jim Neitzel had one he called "onsey-twosey, because of the low seed count.

I was thinking of the same fruit.

Seed count doesn't count for much though, unless it's for ease of processing.

sc4001992 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2021, 07:19:34 PM »

Mark, my fruits on the new seedling tree has only 1 fruit on all of the fruits, not just some fruits. I know that all loquat trees will have maybe one or two fruits with only 1 seed, but not all fruits on the tree with 1 seed (never heard of that yet).

Oolie, it's nice to have only 1 seed or no seed because when you eat it you know there's only one seed to split out and hopefully will have higher flesh to seed ratio.

beicadad · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2021, 07:20:51 PM »

flesh/fruit weight percentage is a more meaningful number. Perhaps you can compare different varieties including the single-seed one

sc4001992 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2021, 07:42:26 PM »

Well for now, it's to early for this 1 seed fruit, way to small to check out that spec. Maybe next year when it has second crop and if it's still 1 seed per fruit. By the second year of fruiting these loquats are close to their final fruit size. My KT14 & KT18 fruits were small the first year and increased in size now to medium fruits on the second year. Although my KT15 fruits were medium size fruits the first year.

But you bring up a good point. Since I was selling some loquat seeds of three varieties (Vista White, Big Jim, Kosmic), I did review over 200-300 seeds of each type and certain ones do have a better flesh to seed ratio after looking at the size of these seeds I harvested.

I'll take a few photos of the seeds and you can see how small or large the seeds are in these ripe fruits.

mbmango · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2021, 12:13:29 AM »

This year I've been getting a good percentage of 1-seed Champagnes. Although they're smaller outside, they usually have more edible flesh than the multis, so I look forward to them. Not sure if related, but I had moved my only other tree, so there was much less chance of cross-pollination, since only 2 stalks of Big Jim otherwise. Will see if the final batch of fruits will have less seeds since they opened after BJ was done.

sc4001992 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2021, 02:30:02 AM »

My 1 seed seedling tree is in the middle of all my other large loquat trees (8 of them) so it's getting plenty of cross pollination. Next year I should know if its a fluke or the real deal. The fruit is orange flesh and taste very good, similar to my KT4 Teardrop flavor.

JoeP450 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2021, 08:54:44 AM »

I agree with the one seed idea, it would make eating them easier IMO. Last year I was eating fruit off my mom’s orange type tree (don’t know the cultivar) and I got a one seeded fruit and had this same idea to see if I could fruit it and if fruits would have only one seed......ended up using it as rootstock though for the vista white scions you sent me Kaz ...

Good luck with this low seed count idea, I think a good a neat idea would be to do a small YouTube video opening up randomly selected fruits off your tree next year to show the seed count, would definitely watch that.

-joe

ScottR · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2021, 10:37:57 AM »

Some of my seedlings sometimes throw single seeded fruit but not all the time. Wonder if it's environmental thing?

sc4001992 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2021, 10:51:44 AM »

Yes, that sounds like a good idea. This year my tree didn't have enough fruits to pick, only a dozen or so small fruits before I noticed this. I did pick some fruits after I noticed the 1 seed and took some photos.

The 1 Seed fruit photos doesn't look so good since I cut the fruits in half in the morning and didn't take the photo until later that day.

sc4001992 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2021, 11:10:39 AM »

Well Robert I can tell you this since I had to cut up many loquat fruits this weekend to harvest seeds I'm selling. I had approx. 300 each of the seeds from Vista White, KT4, and KT1-Kosmic fruits. And since I noticed this 1 Seed loquat fruits, I decided to see how many one seed fruits I would find in these 300 seeds harvest. Here's the numbers of 1 seed fruits found in these varieties which by the way are all growing next to each (6 large trees grouped in 20ftx20ft area).

1) Vista White - 11 fruits with 1 seed (out of 300 seeds total) - no I didn't count the total fruits
2) KT1-Kosmic - 2 fruits with 1 seed (out of 300 seeds total)
3) KT4-Teardrop- 3 fruits with 1 seed (out of 300 seeds total)

So to me this shows a rather small percentage of fruits would randomly have only 1 seed. This makes the probability of my 1 Seed loquat tree fruits even more higher that next year I may continue to have fruits with one seed, hopefully 90-100%

When I noticed the 1 seed on my seedling tree and started checking the fruits, I had 6 out of 6 fruits with 1 seed, wasn't checking the seed count of the fruits I ate before this.

MedallionBell · « **Reply #13 on:** April 24, 2024, 11:56:00 PM »

New to the group and happy to be here! I have a large Loquat tree. I am considering a project of air layering so I can provide more people with starts that would produce fruit sooner. Does anyone have thoughts on this? I have included pictures of my tree and the fruit.

Thank you!

sc4001992 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 25, 2024, 02:07:02 AM »

MedallionBell, welcome.

You should start your own post about your tree and air layering.

This post is about One Seed Loquat fruits. Of course, if you tree has fruits with one see like I see in your photo then you are on the right post. So does most of your loquat fruits have only 1 seed as your photo shows?

To answer you question, yes air layering a tree that large is good since you can get many plants from it. You can search "air layer" on YouTube, the technique they use applies to most fruit trees.

I have many larger loquat trees, but it is just too much of a hassle for me to have air layers on the tree. I hear from people who do it, it will take 4-6 months to get enough roots to be able to cut it off the tree. If someone has any seedling loquat that is about 1/4" diameter thick, it's much easier to graft it from your tree and the roots will be much stronger on that grafted plant. I would think any air layered plant could take 1 year before its roots start to be strong enough to start growing out without keeping it in the shade. My air layered lychee plants took 2 years after removing from mother tree before it could be put in direct sun to continue to grow.

sc4001992 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2025, 05:41:19 PM »

Ok, got some fruits from Edgar's Japanese loquat tree (large 30ft tree) and the fruits on this variety is elongated, and as I was cutting them open, I noticed even though these fruits would be considered large to giant size, they only had one big seed in the middle. I took some photo last week when I noticed these large fruits had only one seed in each fruit. These loquats were still not fully ripe, couldn't reach any of the ripe ones, so I didn't do a brix reading since it was not ready. Didn't notice the seed count until I took some photos of the fruit cut in half.

This could be a good loquat to grow just because it has one seed in each fruit. Wow, maybe a good one for cross pollination with some of the best tasting loquats I grow.

Seanny · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2025, 06:35:37 PM »

How big is the seed?

sc4001992 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2025, 07:44:47 PM »

big in the one seed fruit. About the same size as a Peluche fruit. I will post some photos later.

JCorte · « **Reply #18 on:** May 20, 2025, 08:39:17 AM »

Fletcher white is a variety that can produce one seeded fruit.

Janet

Fygee · « **Reply #19 on:** May 20, 2025, 03:04:56 PM »

This thread had piqued my interest.

Any more news on your one seeded tree Kaz? Has it maintained that habit since 2021?

Also very curious about Edgar's tree.

sc4001992 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 20, 2025, 03:48:09 PM »

Yes, my seedling one seed loquat still has only 1 seed on most if not all the fruits. But this tree has fruits that are small so there is still not much flesh to eat on it. The flesh is white and sweet so it is better than nothing, but I have many other white flesh that is sweeter and larger fruits so I may keep it just for the 1 seed charateristics.

Maybe I could cross pollinate it with the Peluche or the Khaled#1 loquat to get a fruit that might be large with less seeds.

I did find a new variety (for me) that has the mini seeds, fruits are large so it could be the best loquat tree yet. I hope all the fruits on this large fruit loquat has these mini seeds. I need to now figure out which tree I got these fruits. There are so many new varieties I found in other people's yards and my new seedling trees that have fruited for the first time. I will try to make a video and take photos of the fruits, still have a few left on the counter.

sc4001992 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 20, 2025, 04:02:20 PM »

You can see the info on Edgar's Jaden loquat tree on the other post about giant loquat fruits, and on the seedling loquat posts.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=50896.0

I will be updating this post to show some of the Jaden and Japanese loquat fruits from Ed.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=51447.25

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