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If you think that you are borderline for your area being too cold, the best thing you can do is choose a variety that will be easy to maintain as a small tree. There is a great list of compact varieties here http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17443.0 that tells you about tree size & how they taste. I'm in Orlando & keep my mango trees at 6' tall so I can put a hoop house over each one during freezes (don't need to do that every year, but many years). Also, what kind of soil do you have, sand or muck? Some varieties do better on different soil types. I bought an Angie, which apparently produces great fruit in south florida's soil, but on sandy soil (what I have) the fruit are not good. I top worked it into a different variety. I've currently got Pickering, Manilita, Maha Chanok & Fairchild. Those are all solid choices for a tree you want keep small but still productive. Have fun choosing!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Masterpiece
« on: April 18, 2019, 11:07:32 PM »
That's awesome! Well done!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: conquering the muck and mud
« on: April 12, 2019, 01:21:02 PM »
Neat to see how clear the water is now - great ecosystem you've created!

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Topworking is easy to learn - I learned by watching this guy's videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqTfCGTcJnU. I've successfully topworked two trees learning from videos. For beginners, instead of just grafting 3-4 shoots, graft onto more shoots (like 10 or more), since they won't all take. Once the grafts take or don't and have started growing you can trim away those that didn't take. If you had good luck and they all took, then reduce down to the best 3-4.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 06, 2019, 11:23:03 AM »
ST is amazing flavor wise. It is too big for zone pushing, but if I lived a bit further south I'd definitely plant one even if it didn't produce consistently. Maybe others can comment on what is inconsistent about it. Does it skip flowering? Flower but not set?

Doesn’t flower consistently. Sets strongly when/where it does flower.

Great info - thanks! What factors have you observed that affect flowering? Curious if they are factors a dooryard grower can control (e.g. amount of water or fertilizer). Or are they just up to the weather (e.g. number of chill hours)?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Star Apple Taste Any Good?
« on: April 06, 2019, 11:18:52 AM »
I tried these on a recent trip to Asia and they were tasty. I recall them being sort of plum like in flavor. What's the trick to eating them to avoid the latex? I'd never seen them before and I puzzled over how to best tackle one. I ended up slicing them in half and eating them sort of like a kiwi using a spoon. That was messy, but worked ok.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 09:02:25 PM »
ST is amazing flavor wise. It is too big for zone pushing, but if I lived a bit further south I'd definitely plant one even if it didn't produce consistently. Maybe others can comment on what is inconsistent about it. Does it skip flowering? Flower but not set?

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I'd recommend emperor lychee. Mine fruits consistently every year in 9b and is the most low care tree I have. I've found it to be slightly more cold tolerant than mango, but it will still need protection in harsh years (more than brief dip below 32).

atemoya also does great. Mine is in ground and I give dome protection on cold years - but really easy to keep small so I expect it would be easy to keep on a container.

Mangos can do great if you are willing to cold protect- they are all the same from a cold hardiness perspective.

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Sorry, meant to post this in the trade list. Moderator, please move it for me if that is a possibility.

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Anyone have mango scions to share? I can trade - I've got pickering, manilita and maha chanok. I am also willing to pay postage or purchase if the number of pieces in a minimum order isn't high.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 07:28:55 PM »
Wow - thanks Alex for posting such a great list - I'll be looking it over for a while! Really great to have info on growth habits, disease trends and flavor all in one spot!

Chad, I highly recommend spending this season tasting all the mangos you think you might want to help you narrow it down! When I was deciding what varieties to graft to a tree I topworked I ordered multi-variety boxes from Alex with one or two of each variety I thought I might like. I chose what to order based on growth habit (I'm a zone pusher, so only smaller trees). Then the taste testing really helped me pick which to try grafting. Also, even if you plan to keep the tree as a single variety, I recommend grafting a couple varieties to see what takes. I'm kind of a novice grafter (I've top worked 2 trees) and have found that some varieties are easier to get to "take" than others. I've had two tries at grafting honeykiss and both times, all grafts failed. But other varieties like fairchild "took" easily. So I partly let the grafting lottery determine what variety my tree is now=)


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Really nice advise Jeff! I looked yesterday and wasn't sure what I'd do with such a shape. But I can completely visualize what you suggested!

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Here's my thread discussing why I decided to top work the cogshall
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=24975.msg293032#msg293032
The bottom line is that they don't ripen well on sand soil which is what I have.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit fly protection
« on: March 25, 2019, 08:31:51 PM »
I was wondering if the fruit touching the bag would still get stung. With these big bags most of the fruit are not touching the  bag. Might be worth just culling the few that are touching the bag so they can't introduce insects inside  big bag! Will look tomorrow when it is light to see how many are touching.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit fly protection
« on: March 24, 2019, 10:29:41 PM »
I'm not sure if it will add too much shade. That spot is in full sun so think it will be ok. The white trunk is painted to help prevent sunscald - maybe the netting will help with that too!

I concur - this sort of netting won't help against squirrels- my cat keeps those in check - he likes to sleep under this tree:) when they get closer to ripe I'll wrap the trunk from the ground to the first scaffolds with metal flashing- does s great job of keeping raccoons off. But I do wonder if I'll be able to gather the netting up high enough to keep racoons from tearing holes in that let in insects.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit fly protection
« on: March 24, 2019, 02:09:45 PM »
Trying out these giant net bags- saw them when I went looking for the small ones to put over individual fruit. Very easy to install. Hope they are effective- I've lost every peach for 4 years running to fruit fly maggots. I've tried sprays & traps - don't work. Fingers crossed for peaches this year!




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Here's my topworked cogshall - grafted late last summer.

The whole tree - leftmost branch is Fairchild, forward front branch is baptiste and all the low foliage are water shoots that I will graft honeykiss onto this season.


The Fairchild grafts


The baptiste graft.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Wanted Honeykiss Mango Scions
« on: March 16, 2019, 07:05:59 PM »
Anyone willing to share scions for postage? This variety is hard to get a graft to take, and last year's grafts failed. I can't justify buying more scions by the piece for this variety, but would still like to try again if anyone is doing some pruning and is willing to share the pruned off tips=) I've got manilita, pickering and maha chanok and would be willing to trade scions as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango graft blooming!
« on: March 05, 2019, 08:55:12 PM »
Thanks for the info! I also have grafts I made late last summer pushing blooms. Since the tree I top worked was mature, I will let them fruit - thanks for the tip!

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My Manilita is usually first to bloom in December or January. It is just starting to bloom now. Pickering is in full bloom, others still dormant. Hoping this will be the first year I get blooms on the Angie that I top worked to Maha Chanok. Seeing some bud swell - hoping it is blooms:)

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I found cogshall too vigorous to maintain at 6' tall or less. Mine is in ground, and really would rather be 8-10' tall. I top worked it replacing with Fairchild which I hope will be easier to control. Not sure how much being in a pot restricts vigor, would be interesting to hear from someone growing cogshall in a container. Pickering is a great choice, mine is in ground but will be easy to keep at less than 6 feet, is currently only 4' tall and has been producing for 3 years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Low Temperatures
« on: January 21, 2019, 07:52:59 PM »
Was 33 here this morning for about 4 hours. (Oviedo)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee pruning and air layers
« on: January 19, 2019, 01:07:04 PM »
Using a straw was too fiddly for me - I ended up using a turkey baster - worked fine. Any thoughts on best time of year to harvest the air layers? They have enough roots - the tree is just starting to have bud swell and I expect the main tree will flush blooms in about 2 weeks. I'm thinking I should harvest the air layers before the tree blooms - but curious if it matters?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is a 500W Halogen light too much?
« on: January 17, 2019, 07:51:19 PM »
I doubt it would be too hot - I use 300watt trouble lights plus a string or two of c9 lights inside a 8' plastic dome. My rule is I turn it on when temps hit 40 and turn it off in the morning when temps come up above 35. Now that m y trees are mature, I only use the trouble lights and domes if a hard freeze is predicted. For light freezes I just use c9 lights and no dome. That's fine for up to about 6 hours between 28 and 32. The full dome setup adds about 8 degrees of protection, some damage starts happening if temps stay lower than 24 for anything more than a brief dip - like 2009/2010's winter was. It is actually more likely that your dome will cook your plant during the day. My setup is great for cold, but when daytime temps get into the 60s or more the dome has to come off or the temp inside quickly spikes up to over 100. I hung a temp gauge I could read remotely inside my domes for the first few years - great way to learn. Oh and do make sure you run the calculation of how much wattage is being drawn on a single line so you don't overload the capacity of your extension cords or overload a fuse...

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So far this has been the ideal winter - no nights cold enough to need cold protection, but an upcoming string of 40 degree nights that should be just right for inducing lychee bloom. Only cold damage I've seen is the usual ragged looking banana leaves (fruit ripening this week just fine) and minor bronzing on tender growth flushes on new mango grafts (grafted late summer).

If the original poster is still tracking this thread - I planted my mangos in 2009 and lost one the first year to cold. Cold protection is required most years, but mangeable, I have had 50-150 mangos each year for the past 5 from my dwarf trees (rigorously pruned to about 7').

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