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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lara farms = awesome
« on: March 20, 2024, 03:45:56 AM »
Hey guys.   Yes this mango collection has grown substantially and they are planted on my other farm in kona at 800’.  Great location for mango trees. Here’s the updated list of what’s planted as of today.   I think this might be the most diverse mango planting in Hawaii.   Would love to know if anyone else has this sort of a collection planted out.

Lemon meringue
Ott
Dot
Alampur beneshan
Kent
Wise
Peach cobbler
Val Carrie
Jakarta
Sugarloaf
Malika
Lil gem
Nam doc Mai
Pope
Kurashige
Fairchild. 

Bottom bench row along fence (23)
Lemon zest
Harvest moon
Triple sec (Seacrest)
Fruit punch
Edward
O-15
Super Alphonso (India)
Alphonso
Kesar
Chok Anon
CAC
Rapoza
Juicy peach
Sunrise
Madmam Francis
Phoenix
Momi K
Haden
Keitt
Ewais
Mystery lost tag :( (maybe ataulfo)
Raw honey
Maha Chanok

Row 1 of mangos (along road) (22)
Valencia pride
Sweet tart
Orange sherbet
Lemon zest
Coconut cream
Cotton candy
Pineapple pleasure
Rapoza
Golden glow
Mapalehu
Brooks late
Lancetilla
Ceci love
Carrie
Pickering
Piña colada
Crème brûlée
Tymour
Cabeza
Ice cream
Peach cobbler
Juicy peach

Row 2 of mangos  (20)
Glenn
Fairchild
R2E2
M-4
Florigon
Fruit cocktail
Gary
Sugarloaf
Cushman
Venus
Duncan
Cogshall
Julie
Juliette
Nam doc Mai #4
Okrung
Angie
Rosigold
Pirie
White pirie

Row 3 of mangos (15)
Zillate
Orange sherbet
Orange essence
Pickering
Southern blush
Gold nugget
Butter cream
Manalita
Lemon meringue
Kook lom Krong
Ugly Betty
Bennett Alphonso
Alampur beneshan/imam passand
Manzanillo
Julie

Row 4 (4)
Ah ping   
Vallenato
Mystery Indian mango from Ken love
(Ice cream)
 
Row 5 (3)
Smith
Spirit of 76
Ceci love





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I decided to add another row of mangos to the project so now we’re at 85 trees in all.  Here’s the updated list for anyone curious to follow along on the journey. 

Bottom bench row along fence (23)
Lemon zest
Harvest moon
Triple sec (Seacrest)
Fruit punch
Edward
O-15
Super Alphonso (India)
Alphonso
Kesar
Chok Anon
CAC
Rapoza
Juicy peach
Sunrise
Madmam Francis
Phoenix
Momi K
Haden
Keitt
Ewais
Mystery lost tag :( (maybe ataulfo)
Raw honey
Maha Chanok

Row 1 of mangos (along road) (22)
Valencia pride
Sweet tart
Orange sherbet
Lemon zest
Coconut cream
Cotton candy
Pineapple pleasure
Rapoza
Golden glow
Mapalehu
Brooks late
Lancetilla
Ceci love
Carrie
Pickering
Piña colada
Crème brûlée
Tymour
Cabeza
Ice cream
Peach cobbler
Juicy peach

Row 2 of mangos  (20)
Glenn
Fairchild
R2E2
M-4
Florigon
Fruit cocktail
Gary
Sugarloaf
Cushman
Venus
Duncan
Cogshall
Julie
Juliette
Nam doc Mai #4
Okrung
Angie
Rosigold
Pirie
White pirie

Row 3 of mangos (15)
Zillate
Orange sherbet
Orange essence
Pickering
Southern blush
Gold nugget
Butter cream
Manalita
Lemon meringue
Krook lom krom
Ugly Betty
Bennett Alphonso
Manzanillo
Spirit of 76
Vallenato

Row 4
Ah ping   
Ott
 
Row 5
Smith
Alampur beneshan









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Aloha friends. 

For years and years I have been on this forum and seen people post about all these wonderful sounding zill varieties of mangos and left to wonder why in the world no one in Hawaii is planting these mangos. 

As I ask around to all the main fruit people I know in Hawaii it seems that every farm basically circulates about 10-20 of the regularly seen mangos in Hawaii. (And don’t get me wrong these mangos are amazing) However I wanted to branch out and do some experimenting now that I have a prime piece of property for mangos and see what all the hype is about.   So I’ve been importing grafted mangos over the last year or two and as of last week I have planted about 65 varieties.    With 10 or so more that I need to plant!   I wanted to share this list with all of you and include you on the journey.   I don’t know what mangos will be successful here or not and to be honest I’m ok with the outcome.  There is only one way to find out and I’m doing it.

My mangos are planted every 20’ and I plan to prune and guide these trees through their life to be great shaped, Low canopy and highly productive.  My inspiration to undertake this project was two summers ago attending the “kona mango festival” on the big island of Hawaii (where I live) and being so disappointed with the complete lack of mangos here and flavors.   Seems like in Hawaii everyone grows Haden. Keitt.  R2e2.  And 3-4 other classics.    We’ll buckle up kona cause I’m about to introduce you to some new flavors that nobody in Hawaii has ever seen the likes of.   To you guys in Florida this will probably seem like a normal list of mangos you might have in your orchard.  But in Hawaii I dare say this will be the most diverse mango collection planted on my island.  (If someone knows of another person on big island with an extensive collection pls let me know.   I’d love to collaborate).  Here is the list so far.    Any comments or tips are appreciated and any other must haves that I’m missing please help me find them.    Hoping to have 100 varieties when it’s all said and done. 

Behold the list.

Valencia pride
Sweet tart
Orange sherbet
Lemon zest
Coconut cream
Cotton candy
Pineapple pleasure
Rapoza
Golden glow
Mapalehu
Brooks late
Lancetilla
Ceci love
Carrie
Pickering
Piña colada
Crème brûlée
Tymour
Cabeza
Ice cream
Peach cobbler
Juicy peach

Alampur beneshan/imam passand
Fairchild
R2E2
M-4
Florigon
Fruit cocktail
Gary
Sugarloaf
Cushman
Venus
Duncan
Cogshall
Julie
Juliette
Nam doc Mai #4
Okrung
Angie
Rosigold
(Pirie)
White pirie

Row 3
Zillate
Glenn
Southern blush
Orange essence

Lemon zest
Harvest moon
Triple sec
Fruit punch
Edward
O-15
Super Alphonso
Alphonso
Kesar
Chockanon
CAC
Rapoza
Juicy peach
Sunrise
Madmam Francis
Phoenix
Momi K
Haden
Keitt
Ewais
Mystery lost tag :( (maybe ataulfo)
Raw honey
Maha Chanok







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No one has fruited a macrantha here.   The purpose of the grafted trees is just for propagation since there are no seeds available. 

Also here is an updated photo or two of the whole orchard.   Which includes about

 30 durian.
2 mammea apple
2 guyas (Spanish line)
1 longkong
1 matoa
1 green sapote
1 mamey sapote
2 Jamaican lilikoi (growing on the big ohia tree)
2 lychee.
2 rambutan
2 longan (red and biew kiew)
2 papaya
1 abiu






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Hello friend.   I am not in hamaukua but I’m still on big island in kona.  Ironically I just ordered about 30 varieties of mango from Florida and I’m gonna attempt to make that work here in kona.    So ID love to talk with you about what you were growing.    Additionally I have gone to great great lengths to plant over 30 durian trees on my land here.   So I’m in the trenches on this new durian growing like you all.  I also have been to Asia twice specifically on durian trips. Hahaha.  So I feel you.    Need to pick my own. 

Here’s my durian orchard now.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 25, 2022, 05:58:07 PM »
Yeah I got them all from Lara farms.    I was shocked that shipping wasn’t more.   Bout $500 in total for 27 trees

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 24, 2022, 08:45:55 PM »
Phase 1 is complete.   All grafted mangos have arrived and been transplanted to 3 gallon pots.    26 of them so far. 












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lara farms = awesome
« on: February 24, 2022, 08:44:37 PM »
Mangos arrived today. 26 of em.  Amazing packaging.   All in great condition. 














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lara farms = awesome
« on: February 23, 2022, 11:46:38 PM »
Anyone looking for awesome grafted fruit trees check out Lara farms.  Super reasonable and shipping is also very reasonable.   And I live in Hawaii!!!   I just got 6 jackfruit trees today.  They arrived packaged incredibly well.  Healthy and happy.    Shipping was like $138 for these 6 trees to Hawaii.  Top tropicals was literally $679 to ship 6 jackfruits.  No exaggeration.   What a joke.   Anyways these jackfruits arrived today After almost a week of shipping to get here.   I was shocked how good they looked.  Potting soil was still wet inside packaging. 🤯.   

I also ordered 25 grafted mango trees from them.   (Arriving tomorrow) Will post pics of how they arrive.   But Julian over there is doing a great job.   Check em out.   











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They are awesome.  I actually bought almost 30 mango trees from them.  Unfortunately they are out of stock of those 2.   

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Does anyone have a grafted tree they’d be willing to sell and ship to Hawaii?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 21, 2022, 05:42:53 PM »
I hear you there oscar. I also wondered/assumed the same thing.   Honestly it really is an experiment.   I don’t know if it’ll work or not and even when/if they do fruit how they’ll taste.    But I’m
Committed to the process and will see it through.  Not only for myself but for future generations of mango growers here in Hawaii.    I’ll probably plant about 30 varieties.   20 Florida and 10 Hawaii types.   

I’m not at all saying Hawaii mangos are no good. Mapalehu is amazing. Pirie is unreal.   Rapoza same.    And carrie here is also one of my favorites.  Just really wanna try that orange sherbet and peach cobbler and lemon zest.  To name a few.    See how they taste here. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 18, 2022, 02:42:31 AM »
You guys are all correct.   I am going to trial about 10-12 Florida varieties at my place here in kona.   Luckily the mango experiment will be faster to yield results than the durian experiment.    So I’ll have some answers for us all I about 4-5 years I believe.   

But yes here on big island the standard mangoes we see are Keitt. Rapoza. Haden.  Tommy Atkins.   Then we less frequently see some Carrie.   Mapalehu.  Golden glow.   Pirie (which is incredible).  Some nam doc Mai.  Etc etc.  few others. But not many.     You absolutely never see a lemon zest.  Or sweet tart. Or peach cobbler.   Or cotton candy.   Good lord those all sound so yummy.    Very good job to whoever named these.   Lol.  It’s working. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Florida mangos in Hawaii. All good??
« on: February 17, 2022, 10:34:54 AM »
Hi guys.  This may sound like a silly question.  Since more than likely anything that fruits in Florida will probably fruit in Hawaii just as easily.   But I stumbled across Lara farms website recently (super cool and very fair prices I might say).  And they have like 75 varieties of grafted mangos for sale.    I’ve always been so curious why Florida has all the coolest types of mangos.   Peach cobbler and lemon zest and fruit punch and all these crazy names that truly sound amazing. But In Hawaii you really only find 7-10 varieties that are sold here.   Weird.   

Long story short I wanna buy a bunch of these grafted trees and plant at my other place in kona.  Just wondering if there is anything I’m missing….  Will they grow and fruit here for me as well as they do in Florida??   

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Those durians along the back (pohakulani seedlings) were all planted less than 4 months ago.  They were seedlings from a fruit I ate in 2020 sometime

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 22 brix jakfruit cleaned and ready
« on: February 07, 2022, 02:24:58 AM »
How on earth does a jeff in Hawaii get ahold of this tree?  I need this.

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So here is a shot of the durian orchard today.   You can see the shade cages over all the grafted durians above the rock wall. 

Below the rock wall I have my row of pohakulani seedlings.   In wire cages.  But no shade.   This area is accessible to pigs so that’s why these have the cages.    The last picture is a close up of one of the pohakulani trees.  They seem to be growing fine despite no shade cloth. 

All the trees have a little sprinkler emitter that waters them for 30 min in the am and 30 min the afternoon. 








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Thank you Peter.  I appreciate that.  I’m 36 so I think I can weather the storm of waiting time and see this thing into fruition.  About the shade cages That is very very interesting.  Cause yeah I have zero wind here.  Hmmmm. Would be nice to not use the shade cages.   That’s for sure.    I actually don’t have shade cages over my pohakulani seedlings.  They seem pretty tough.  But they are also planted semi close to some tall rose apples also my black thorn seedling is not covered since it’s already 8-9’ tall. 

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It’s most definitely a very very expensive and very very time consuming experiment and it’s crazy to think that after all this and 10-15 years of waiting it might not even work.  Haha.    I’m pushing the boundries and limits for sure.   With such a wide variety It will be very cool to see if if some of them do fruit and this telling us what varieties might be adaptive for higher elevations and this type of weather.   It seems crazy sometimes…. But far less crazy then people in Florida trying to fruit a durian.   (No offense if that’s any of you).  Haha

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Aloha happy Hana.   The project has evolved considerably and most the trees are plugging along.  Slow growing.  The final planting ended up in 4 rows.   

Bottom row is 8 pohakulani seedlings.    This is my favorite Hawaiian grown durian and one I’m willing to gamble on seedlings with.  So fingers crossed and we will see how these turn out.

Row 2 is:  durio kutagensis seedling
-durian (simas)
-durio graveolens seedling
-durian (mdur 88)
-durian (mdur 88)
-durian (red prawn)
-durian (monthong)
-durian (pohakulani) grafted

Row 3:  durian (suluk Sionggong)
-durian (Lihoha)
-durian (Kilauea)
-durian (kajmak)
-durian (ganyao)
-durian (chanee)
-durian (d168)
-durian (red prawn)

Row 4:  -durio (macrantha grafted)
-durian (red prawn)
-durian (d168)
-durian (black thorn seedling)
-durian (Jamuk/D99)
-durian (Jamuk/D99)
-durian (choice chanee)
-durian (d145)

All the trees have shade cages and wrapped on bottom with clear plastic wrap.    They are all on a small drip emitter sprinkler.   All have been planted in small mounds and have lots of mulch all around them.   




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are you shipping to hawaii?

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Raul this information is super helpful. thank you!  i was actually going to plant the trees tomorrow in my orchard.  My intention was to plant 2 trees at 25' spacing (8 meters) 

Is it your opinion that each tree is self fertile? if so then i am hoping i'll be fine with 2 trees planted.  if not i can plant 3... 

How big do these trees get?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia clausa (Anihuayo)
« on: March 18, 2021, 03:40:18 AM »
Does anyone have an approximate size that this tree gets to?  i'm trying to decide where to plant it

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so it sounds like the oliviformus is perhaps superior to bujugata?  (which sounds like the more common variety grown and called spanish lime)   

That above picture with the Lychee looks incredible..  that flesh is deep orange and those fruits are big!  hoping that's what we can expect out of these, i'm planning on planting two trees so i sure hope they are bisex and not a couple of males.   that would be pretty rough

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