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Temperate Fruit & Orchards => Temperate Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Lovetoplant on July 08, 2021, 06:49:23 PM

Title: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: Lovetoplant on July 08, 2021, 06:49:23 PM
Hello, has anyone successfully graft hachiya on to fuyu persimmon tree?
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: sc4001992 on July 08, 2021, 08:12:17 PM
I'm sure you can. I don't care for the astringent (soft ripe) fruits so I only have multi-grafted non-astringent persimmons on my trees. I haven't found any variety that is not compatible yet. Here's what I have grafted on Giant Fuyu , Matsumoto, and Hayakume trees.

1   Chocolate
2   Coffee Cake
3   Fuyu
4   Great Wall
5   Hayakume
6   Izu
7   Jiro
8   Kurokuma
9   Maru
10   Matsumoto
11   Saijo
12   Suruga
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: Lovetoplant on July 13, 2021, 01:24:56 AM
Thank you.  I tried grafting hachiya onto my fuyu in February, but failed. 

What month would be best to graft persimmon?  Any method recommendation?

Among 12 varieties you grow, can you please tell me your two most favorites?

I only fertilized my fuyu once in late March.  Can I fertilize it once more?  I learned that it will drop fruits if over fertilized with nitrogen.
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: sc4001992 on July 13, 2021, 01:51:33 AM
Try grafting again now. Persimmons are not that easy to graft always, so you need to do many grafts and a few make take. Most people like to graft before the buds start to open up on the rootstock in spring. I graft from Jan-Sept. I'm grafting some now as well.

I couldn't tell you my favorits, I have only tasted the fuyu, giant fuyu, hayakume, matsumoto, and jiro so far. When the new grafts have fruits next year I will let you know which ones are my favorite.

You can use any grafting method, I just use the cleft graft. Since its hot, you must cover the grafted scion with sun protection (aluminum foil, paper bag) or if the rootstock is in a pot, move into full shade until the graft grows out.
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: Lovetoplant on July 14, 2021, 02:27:05 PM
I will try grafting some now like you suggested.

 Will the scions need to be prepared more like cherimoya scions(ridding off all leaves and wait for the buds to swollen)?

What is your fertilizing schedules for a matured fruitting persimmon tree?

Would be nice to hear an update on your favorite varieties this fall..

Thank you
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: sc4001992 on July 31, 2021, 08:00:05 AM
You can prep the scions, make it grow faster after you graft it, but not necessary.
I fertilize once a year if I remember, still get plenty of fruits.
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: Seanny on August 05, 2021, 04:33:31 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/gLKq7RvL/AEFA46-DB-0-CB9-40-BF-BADF-57463-DB0-C6-E6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gLKq7RvL)

Saw grafted Hachiya at HD today.
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: sc4001992 on August 11, 2021, 01:39:01 PM
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Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: Flgarden on August 26, 2021, 02:59:21 PM
I grafted on fuyu: saijo, coffee cake, izu, chocolate
I grafted on hachiya: saijo and coffee cake.
I did it when rootstocks were waking up and when they had leaves. I tried bud grafting and cleft. I tried with fresh scions and the refrigerated for a few weeks.  all took. I have all kind of troubles with annonas grafting but persimmons and asian pears had no issues.
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: Seanny on August 28, 2021, 11:32:54 AM
Did you graft to last year wood or older wood?
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: Flgarden on August 28, 2021, 03:03:26 PM
Some on older some on last year wood. Multi graft was not a plan. It just happened because rootstocks arrived very skinny and scions were much thicker. So i grafted on my trees. Some wood was so hard to keep cleft tight. I didn't think it would work.
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: sc4001992 on December 04, 2021, 06:35:50 AM
Flgarden, what months did you do your grafts ?
Title: Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
Post by: Flgarden on January 15, 2022, 01:26:15 PM
I grafted in march and april.