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I know some of you raise quails in your greenhouses, i looked up old posts but couldnt find information regarding whether quails eat and could damage plants. Has anyone of you had problems with them destroing your plants?
My uncle will be getting me 5 quails, probably the common ones, in a few days . Should i put nets around the bases of the plants?
Particularly worried about my dragon fruits as they arent woody and would be easy to consume...
Also i hope they dont eat all of the earth worms that i have in the top layer of soil...

Well ,from one problem to another....i was wondering why my apricot trunk is all cracked and full of deep crevices ,well a week ago hapenned to look a bit closer and found the remaing/discarded shredded wood  piles all over the trunk of the tree. I assume that i have bark borers in there ,probably the same ones that i found on my cherries.
I do have them in way smaller amount than in the apricot and i actually extracted almost all of the ones that i found on the cherries, they are like little caterpillars that bore into the cambium, just below the bark. They are actively eating the live  bark/cambium layer.
What can i use to control such pests, i could spend several days extracting the ones from the apricot manually but i will damage all of the living bark thats left, its that bad!
How do i deal with those ?
Thanks alot !

First, i am sorry for the off topic , i posted about the same mushrooms last year, in the temperate fruit section and was left without answer. Looked pics online and didnt really saw the same ones that i have....
They are growing in big numbers in my blueberry patches, they seem to like asidic soil but i think are growing without a host. No pines or big trees around, only fruit plants like apple and stonefruit, along with the blueberries. They are growing at clumps as shown in the pics. I just want to know if they are edible or not...


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Latest blooming loquat varieties?
« on: October 17, 2022, 11:55:23 PM »
Hello, one fellow fruit geek is interested in which ones are the latest blooming loguat varieties. The goal is to grow the variety/ ies here in BG, so a cooler climate asks for a plant that will flower at the end of winter and begginning of spring, which is end of march trought april. If theres one that blooms even later, like may, that would be great.
He first wants to know the names of the varieties in question and will do his research on them, later he said he would be looking for plants or cuttings for grafting, once he's sure about the varieties.
Thanks for helping out !

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What variety/species of anonna is this?
« on: October 12, 2022, 10:42:46 AM »
One woman from BG is selling seedlings from this, shes labeled it as a cherimoya but the leaves on them are more pointier, just like the ones on the tree with the fruit, which doesnt look like a cherimoya to me. She said that the seedlings are from this particular fruiting plant. I ordered 2 and just want to know what i have, is it a sugar apple instead of cherimoya?
The tree is located somewhere in Miami ,Florida, incase this matters .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / A rather awkward fertilizer opportunity
« on: October 11, 2022, 10:26:53 AM »
So, prepare for this one! I found a bunch of very old bags with bones in the forrest. The nylon bags they were dumped into have pretty much degraded or are degrading so this should have happened at least 4-5 years ago.
The bones themselves also look old, they are all the same and look like the bones u get in chicken legs, i can quess they are from chickens.
I wonder if i could or should take the bones and hammer them and use them as a bone meal fertilizer. Are there any risks with deseases with old bones? Again ,they are all the same tipe, no spines and other nasties, they just look like someone just cooked a bunch of chicken limbs and discarded the remains.
Is this a good opportunity ?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Fig winter protection
« on: September 29, 2022, 08:45:29 AM »
I have two inground figs, one of the hardier varieties that are in their second year inground. They are not small plants, i mean not starters or smth and jenerally went thru the last winter okay but heres the deal...
The one closer to the house had an additional prottection ,but  the one in the open yard had some tip die back due to the cold. I want to add some prottection to them so i do not get the frost bite on the tips. I noticed that the branches that did not had the tips die started to vegetate earlier in the spring, had more vigor in the sence that the leaves and fruit are bigger with shorter internodes. The fruit on those branches is also the earliest to ripen.
So what is the way to add some additional prottection to the plants, without wrapping them with hay or smth since they are too big for that...
Frost cloth? Tuying the branches and making some kind of a box to eliminate wind chill as a factor?
Thanks for any ideas !

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can u show me your espaliered fruit trees ?
« on: September 12, 2022, 02:51:56 PM »
So i have a place for two trees to grow as espaliers, those would be temperate ones, probably nectarines.
What species of both temperate and tropical fruit plants have done well as espalliers for u, i am both interested in temperate and tropical species, the tropical ones would be guava, carambolla and cherimoya probably, those will be potted ...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Wireing avocado for training ?
« on: September 07, 2022, 12:38:50 AM »
My avocado got out of hand ,the branchesh are all cramped near the gh top, i want to get them to kinda weep down if possible. Some of them are too thick to be safely lured down, but those i will gradually try to fasten down with ropes. For the thinner ones i want to use some kind of wire to hopefully guide them down and make a weaping habbit out of it.
Is this a safe way to do it, does avocado have a thin fragile bark that would get damaged by wire, i could try to find a wire that is coated with plastic, like a cable of sorts...
The way it is now it just makes alot of shade for the other plants, i cand really let it spread too much..

When i was preparing the soil in the gh i did add sand for drainage and poriosity, i think i added less than what i need.
I understand that spreading it on top of the soil wont work, so i had the idea of making holes in the soil with a sharp obcect ,then filling those holes with sand . The soil really isnt bad , but i have some places that hold a bit of an excess moisture so would like to help with the drainage everywhere if possible.
Is this a good idea ?

Two weeks ago i collected guite alot of manure worms to my soil in the greenhouse, i collected them from my compost pile located in the near forest. I wonder if i should collect some more.
I also added some compost on the top of the soil and now when i dig a bit i find a few worms at each spot, both  the manure ones and the standard garden ones. Before i added the compost i could hardly find any garden worms in the soil, seems that it is attracting them .
Is there a risk to overpopulate the soil with them, i have alot of mulch on top of the soil so they should have enough to eat?

I have a 10 liter bottle of watter that is filled with a homemade ,ready to use fish emulsion. The thing has an almost black colour and a putrid smell to it/ normall.......i am using it at a dose of around one watter cup full of emulsion, per 12 liters of water.
In the emulsion apart from the fish, i have also added string algae from my ponds and some dirt. I have set 2 more bottles of fish waste to ferment for next year and i wonder what else can i add inside to make it richer. I red about sugar , stinging nettle and other organic wastes that can be added. 

What is your  recipe for a homemade fish emulsion and how often do u use it on your plants? I guess as an organic fert it cant really burn the plants, although this would probably deppend on the strength each different bach of emulsion has.....

I will be starting this project in september sometime and i'm stil wondering what kind of a radiator for the water heating system to take.
The space inside is verry limited, i do have a solid base on which i could mount the heating objects, but plants are planted all along the walls of the gh ,so i cant really go with the standart radiators at this particular area. I can only place them at the center of the gh ,right on the paths ,this will be a shitty decission since i wont be able to move freely at all. This choise is tsill possible since i dont have alot of variants anyway, if i would to place them at the paths i would like to be able to remove them in summer, but i know this will not be a good thing to do 2 times a year since the chance of a leak somewhere increases .

The other possible choise would be to buy bathroom radiators ,the ones that are like just tubes . Those i could easily place on the walls of the gh and there will be ebouth space between them and the plants i think. The thing that worries me is that they do not have the same heat capacity as the regular ones as they do not hold as much liters of water as the other tipe.
I also do not know how many radiators i will need, last year i did fine with a wood stove and got through minus 15 C temps guite a few times. The stove i used has a power or heat unit of 6.6 kw, i did not find a solo radiator with this much output so i will need several of them . I should also say that the stove wasnt burning at its full cappacity, it mostly had a gentle fire, so i may not really need something that powerfull....
Any reccomendations about my case are wellcomed ,but please no electricity or other means of heating like gas or other fuels, i want to do it connected to the house's heating sistem' which is via water...
Thank you !

Citrus General Discussion / Citrus defficiency, which one do i have ?
« on: August 22, 2022, 04:54:48 AM »
My citrus, the ugly duclings of my garden...
First i start with the lemons, they made a simbolic new growth at the start of spring, nothing afterwards,  they do have some fruitset that they are holding on to, but those also look yellowish far from healthy.

The mandarin, it looked worse than it does now, kinda greened up a little.

Red pomello, this one looked like shit when i received it from the nursery, it also greened up signifficantly and is making some new growth right now that does not look defficient atm.

Looking at the pics online i think i may have a manganeese, zink and possibly a nitrogen defficiency. I red about epaom salt helping with manganeese or magnesium defficiencies and generally helping plants stay greener and healthier, should i add some of it?

I want to spray my greenhouse plants this evening with this , the species that i have are catleyanum and true guava, cherimoya, avocado, pineapple, coffee, dragon fruit, citrus, feijoa, monsterra, banana, surinam cherry. Are any of those sensitive to it, most of the plants do have new growth, at the list with the usage info there is stated that there is a possibility of burning of the new growth by the oil.

So i got this idea recently, here's what i want to do. Winter sun here is guite low on the horizon so it does not make a great impact on the greenhouse as it is. I would like to harness as much of its power as possible, via the most cost effective way if possible.
So i want to make a form out of two flat wooden or other type of matterial boards, which will be meeting at the center, forming an angle of dunno how much degrees.  Basically i see the form being kinda as an open book, with the opened side towards the sun. If its totally flat and staright linded i will probably loose alot of the reflected light due to the sun's changing traectory, to fix this a bit i think that if i have the 2 boards both facing towards the greenhouse's center i will get the reflections right and lose a minimal ammount of them. The whole thing will have to be with a tilt towards the ground at its top so it could direct the light down towards the gh.
I want to use cooking aluminium foil as the reflective agent, i will have to glue it or just find a way to fix it to the material.
As a reflective a could also use the reflecrive thing that people use in their cars, i am not fammiliar with car part's names so i could not be more specific on this.
 As another alternative i could probably paint the boards white and not use reflective matterial, but i think the effect will be much weaker, if done like this.

Heres a sketch that i did for a few minutes, i hope the idea is clear enough with my shitty explenation.
Please share your ideas and thoughts on this thanks !

The second pic is better!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Forcing dragon fruit to bloom ?
« on: August 12, 2022, 10:38:38 AM »
Hi, What are the ways, ive read before u can prune the older hanging branches/ tip them, and this forces the same branch to flower, true?
Ive read about drought stress resulting in blooming? Curently i am watering the plants, not alot, i wait for them to dry out a bit.
Ive also read here that one can promote flowering with a ferilizer with a high middle number. I have watered the plants in the last 3 weeks or so 3 times with a cactus fertilizer with an npk number of 3-5-7? Is that good ?
I think the cacti should be rady to bloom, ive seen pics of plants that have half the mass of mine, that are blooming and fruiting. I do not know the varieties of mine.
I am thinking of trying the pruning of the older branches thing, to see if this will make a difference and probably get a fert that forces blooming, its around time for them to start giving....

 Thanks for taking time to help !

Tropical Fruit Discussion / A theft on the horizon
« on: August 10, 2022, 03:53:36 PM »
 Please dont hate me , i just want my crops grown with allot of effort, for myself. Sooooo ive been seeing those 2 kids regularly passing on my street and helping themselves with the neighbors raspberries, they do not enter the yard, they just harvest whats available trought the yard barier.
Fast forward to my case, i knew this moment would come and i kinda didnt do what i had to do earlier. Now i have a tiffany nectarine, a 2 y/o tree that has around 30 nectarines now on it. The plant is right next to the fence line and the fruit being the size of a medium apple and the colloring that they are staring to get surely attracts some attention. I placed a shading net on the fence ,but apparently those two kids are a fruit gang and regularly scan yards for gastronomic experiences.
So the culmination was today when i was a meter away from the tree when i saw them passing right next to the fence, they didnt saw me becouse of the shade net. They were chatting something like " come to see" and were trying to see trought the fence. Now i do have blackberries right next to the tree so they may have been targeting them, dunno...
So my responce was with as serious voice as a could do- do not look here, at which they just lightly laughed.
I have a hail net that complicates thing for anyone intending from above ,and the  thorny blackberries also protect on one side.
I will be putting a higher temporary net on the existing one until the harvest is done and for next year i will have to make some changes to the fence so i feel secure that my crop is safe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Calcium carbonate use for tropicals
« on: August 02, 2022, 12:58:49 AM »
I recently had a deficiency on a banana in my gh, one member of the forum suggested me to use calcium carbonate and borax and after i added those two the new leaf of the plant has no defformation.
Now since i have around 3 kilos of calcium carbonate i wonder if i should use it on all of my tropicals in the gh/ fruit plants.
I am planning on removing the mulch ,adding the calcium along with a granular npk fert and placing the mulch back.
Are there any risks to adding calcium carbonate to the soil? How much sould i use, like per square meter if theres such a reccomandation ?
Thank you, have a nice day !

Temperate Fruit Discussion / How to make blackberries sweeter ?
« on: July 13, 2022, 03:10:17 AM »
I have two varieties planted together' Karaka Black and Loch Ness. They are with different ripening seasons 'the karaka is doing its thing right now and the loch ness will be shortly after the karaka finishes.
Sooo the karaka fruits are very big and juicy but kinda lack sweetness. Ive found that i need to wait until thefruit drops or is just about to drop and detaches with the slightest of pull, thats when the flavour is most complex and the fruit is the sweetest.
Now how can i make both of the varieties sweeter, sould i stop wattering them while they are ripening? Wright now i am giving them some water every other day, their soil i usually dryish but the plants do not show sighns of water stress?
Thanks, here are a few pics...
I should also add that the plants are still young, its their second year and second fruiting ,so they sould be improving as they age up ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help me understand plant feeding
« on: July 11, 2022, 03:05:35 AM »
I want to really get a hold of my feeding program for my plants' ive started writing dates and info on the feeding and practices i do to the plants' which i have never done before. Helps quite alot ' but theres sne major thing that i do not understand - chelated vs water soluble ferts.
Now i know chelates are also water soluble ferts/ ingredients of it, what i dont get is that when i buy a given fertilizer, some of the micronutrients are listed as chelates( manganese, zinc etc) which means they can be only available to the plant via foliar feed? No ? So the given fertilizer is listed as one that can be used both as a foliar and as a watering one, but if i water the plants with it they wont be able to absorb the chelated ones, so for those i need to apply the fert as a spray?
So basically i need to swich between watering and spraying each time to get the max bennefit out of the fert?
Thanks alot for clearing this out , i got myself into a site which explains this but i just got more confused while reading.....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Banana leaf defformation
« on: July 10, 2022, 03:21:04 AM »
This one is growing in the gh and lately started to send out somewhat defformed leaves, is this a nutrient defficiency or something else ? I think i havent overfed it, i usually spray with leaf fertilizers, the soil seemed a bit too moist lately so i am carefull and do not give it too much water...
The variety is most likely super dwarf cavendish.
The yellow leaves that are seen in the pics were the first leaves that the plant made after winter ,so they have nothing to do with its present condition. 

This looks authentic, the question is will the leaves manage to sprout a new growing point ?

Anyone recognize this species ?? The flowers are are grouped in the base of the leaves. Its growing now as a bush since it has been cut down in the past, so the true nature of it may be a little more tree like. 

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Almond bark desease ?
« on: June 13, 2022, 02:33:08 PM »

This has been going on for a few months, right under the bark there are liguid "baloons" forming, full with resin, when i burst them underneath the whole bark layer is dead. I made some severe cuts and removed most of the infected parts and sprayed with fungicide, but its persisting at the same places and i think is slightly expanding.
What could this be and how to treat it ?
Ive had a similar thing, prolly the same desease happen to my cherry a year ago, whatever it is, it seems to be targetting stonefruit species...

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