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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: November 26, 2021, 11:04:39 PM »
I believe the bad opinions of Arctic Frost may be based on younger trees. I know the first 4 or so years fruit from my trees was not good. This year I have been really pleased, other than the fruit is small sized. I really believe to a large extent, this is my fault due to lack of fertilizer.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: November 04, 2021, 09:15:41 PM »
I wonder why the original developer of Arctic Frost chose to release it on its own rootstock. rather than a grafted tree?
Either the developer thought it was good enough and saw no practical improvements from grafting, or perhaps something else influenced their choice.
Without field trials of the other rootstocks, the world may never know.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: October 26, 2021, 10:04:59 PM »
I wonder what benefit there would be to having Arctic Frost on a rootstock?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: October 26, 2021, 01:10:26 PM »
Millet, thanks for the information. I'm going to try to be prepared for any cold snap we may have. I definitely don't want to lose the trees.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: October 26, 2021, 10:35:17 AM »
My trees are not grafted. I wonder if a grafted tree might have been a better choice. When I bought my trees, I didn't see any grafted trees available.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: October 24, 2021, 03:44:19 PM »
I've read some reports of problems with cold hardiness. I hope that my trees can survive down to 15 Degrees, but I don't know if I will have the nerve to test it. I will probably be cautious and cover the trees and use a heater.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: October 23, 2021, 06:02:20 PM »
I'm continuing to harvest the fruit. I'm really happy with the taste.
I'm looking forward to a good crop next season. I will definitely make sure the trees are protected if the cold gets extreme.

If Arctic Frost holds true to its cold-hardy name, it's going to be a winner.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: October 14, 2021, 10:17:03 PM »
Thank you for your reply.
I was hoping to use a time-release formulation next season, I do have a bag of the  Jacks 25-5-15.
What is the best application rate and frequency for in-ground citrus?

Thank you again.
Greg

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Arctic Frost Report
« on: October 12, 2021, 07:30:29 PM »
Greetings.
As I have mentioned before, I have two Arctic Frost trees that are around five years old. They have up until this point been a disappointment. The first orange was terrible, with a flavor that would cut your throat. Last summer I decided to make a last-ditch effort with them and planted them in the ground. They survived the cold snap of 17 Degrees last winter. I built a makeshift shelter consisting of ladders and tarps with a space heater for four nights/days.
This summer they have held their own, but nothing to brag about. At this point, I believe that my care of the trees is substantially responsible for their mediocre performance. I failed to appreciate the high nitrogen requirements of a tree planted in the ground. I'm convinced that had I fertilized correctly, they would have had a good year.

Currently, one tree has quite a bit of fruit, and the other just a few.
Please see the attached photo's:
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I find it somewhat odd that one tree has ripening fruit and the other tree has green fruit.
Maybe this is a normal occurrence.
The ripening fruit is all rather small, not a lot bigger than a golf ball. I have picked a couple of them. I am impressed with the flavor, the burning flavor in my throat is now absent. I have honestly bought "Cuties" from the store that tasted worse.

I'm blaming the small fruit size on the lack of fertilizer.

The tree with the fruit that is still green, I don't know about. Maybe it just didn't have any new growth to set fruit on. The fruit is bigger on this tree.

Based on tree size, can anyone recommend the proper amount of Osmocote Plus for next spring's application?



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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Ready to Pick?
« on: December 03, 2020, 10:46:58 PM »
I will report back. Both trees are now safely planted in the ground. I'm really hoping they will bear a lot of fruit this coming spring.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Ready to Pick?
« on: November 14, 2020, 05:42:14 PM »
Thank you. I went ahead a picked it.
The peel was a little thicker than I expected and the scent made me think that the flavor of the fruit would not be the best. The white part around the fruit segments was hard to remove from the fruit. The fruit taste was better than I expected, not excellent, but acceptable.

I have went ahead and planted one of my trees in the yard. The second one will be planted in the next week or so. They may very well be killed from the cold, but they have managed to survive for 4-5 years unprotected in pots on the deck. 

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Arctic Frost Ready to Pick?
« on: November 13, 2020, 06:40:03 PM »
I only have one orange to pick. Is this ready to pick?



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Citrus General Discussion / Re: confirming issues on citrus
« on: September 06, 2020, 03:33:04 PM »
I don't know what exactly what is wrong, but this will most likely cure it:
BAYER ADVANCED Fruit, Citrus and Vegetable 32-fl oz Concentrate Garden Insect Killer

https://www.lowes.com/pd/BAYER-ADVANCED-Fruit-Citrus-and-Vegetable-32-fl-oz-Concentrate-Garden-Insect-Killer/3170999

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma Problem
« on: September 06, 2020, 03:22:45 PM »
Thank you for the quick reply. I was afraid that the fruit was produced on the new growth.

Given the purported cold hardness of Arctic Frost, do you think the trees would do well planted in the ground in central Alabama? my soil is the typical heavy clay.



Thanks
Greg

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Red Champagne obituary
« on: September 06, 2020, 02:53:04 PM »
I have read that rodents such as moles will attack and destroy the roots.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma Problem
« on: September 06, 2020, 02:49:04 PM »
The Arctic Frost trees have made a remarkable turn around. It has put on at least 12 inches of new growth all the way around, to the point that the trees are getting a little too large for the deck.

I had severely underestimated the heavy nutritional requirements of the trees, I was essentially starving the trees.   

The question is, do I cut them back to a more manageable size? and If I do, when is the best time of the year to prune? And last, how will gutting them back affect the next seasons fruit crop chances?

Thanks
Greg

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma experience
« on: June 24, 2020, 10:38:05 AM »
My trees are beginning to look a lot better.
At Millets recommendation, I have started using the Jacks professional 25-5-15 fertilizer.
I apply it in every watering. The soil is very well draining and I water daily, unless it's raining.
I use 1 teaspoon of Jacks per gallon of water.


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma Problem
« on: June 24, 2020, 10:32:00 AM »
Millet. Thanks for the information. I had already ordered an 18# bag of the Citrus Tone.
It came in today, I made an application with it.
I have also ordered a 25# bag of Jacks professional 25-5-15
Hopefully, it will arrive next week.

Millet.
I received the Jacks professional 25-5-15 about 3 weeks ago. I have been applying it in every watering at a rate of 1 teaspoon per gallon. The soil is very well draining and I have to water daily. I have also applied a couple of applications of foliar fertilizer- I used the 25-5-15 at a rate of a little less than a 1/4 teaspoon per gallon.
I will say the trees seem to be in the start of a real turn around. The foliage is really starting to look better.

Are these application rates correct?

Thanks
Greg

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma Problem
« on: June 03, 2020, 09:53:48 PM »
Millet. Thanks for the information. I had already ordered an 18# bag of the Citrus Tone.
It came in today, I made an application with it.
I have also ordered a 25# bag of Jacks professional 25-5-15
Hopefully, it will arrive next week.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma Problem
« on: June 02, 2020, 09:58:38 AM »
I repotted with Kellogg Garden Organics premium outdoor potting mix. I added additional perlite and some sand to the mix. It drains very well, in fact, that may be an issue with keeping nutrients in the pots. The pots require watering at least every other day.

What fertilizer are you using?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma Problem
« on: June 01, 2020, 11:08:47 PM »
Millet, I have a bag of Jacks Prof 77010 General Purpose Fertilizer, 20-20-20 Fertilizer.
Is this ok to use? or does it need to be the ratio you described?

Thanks

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma Problem
« on: June 01, 2020, 09:44:57 PM »
The trees were repotted from 20-Inch pots into 24 Inch pots a month or so ago.
The trees had the same issues last summer and in fact, the entire time I have had them.
Last night I ordered Citrus-tone fertilizer. It should be in later this week, hopefully, an application of Citrus-tone will improve the situation.

The trees stay on the deck year-round.
My Arctic Frost is not grafted. I think I've read that that they are a variety that is not grafted.

Thanks

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma experience
« on: May 31, 2020, 05:56:42 PM »
My 5-year-old trees are still a disappointment. I have posted in the forum asking for help in sorting out the problems.
Has anyone been successful in growing Arctic Frost in a container on the patio?
 
Thanks
Greg

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Arctic Frost Satsuma Problem
« on: May 31, 2020, 04:39:09 PM »
I have two Arctic Frost Satsuma trees that I have had for around five years.
They have never been healthy. I had one orange the first year.
If I can't figure out what's going on with them, I'm going to try to rehome them and give someone else a shot with them.

In the past, I was pretty successful with citrus. A couple of things have changed in my setup. (1) I stained my deck a dark brown. (2) Jungle growth potting mix is no longer available.

I don't know if these factors have anything to do with my problems.

I have tried using Osmocote Citrus time release in the past, and this year I'm using Jacks Professional 20-20-20 water-soluble. The Jacks does have .0125% Boron

Please take a look at the photos and make a recommendation.


















Thanks in advance for anyone's help

Greg

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: New addition
« on: November 03, 2018, 11:47:04 AM »
I have been using the air pots for a few years. I can't remember where I bought them online.
I did a web search and found them at htgsupply.com
They look like they are priced around what i remember that I paid for mine.

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