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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Giant key lime
« on: November 29, 2019, 06:48:42 PM »
The vast majority of the limes on my thornless key lime are about 3cm in diameter.  Ones I've seen for sale in bags at the grocery store, which I assume come from plain/thorny trees from FL, are the same.

here's ones I picked a few weeks ago.  Most were small and round, but a few were much larger and egg shaped like in your picture.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Giant key lime
« on: November 29, 2019, 05:28:06 PM »
The largest fruit I've seen on my non-Giant thornless key lime was the size of a small chicken egg.  Not sure exactly how big that is.

I have a Giant key lime too but I haven't gotten enought fruit to really say what the difference is.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Garcinia kola for sale
« on: November 29, 2019, 12:29:56 PM »
Is this edible fruit?  Or only used for the seed?

From wikipedia: "G. kola seeds have both seed coat dormancy and physiological dormancy probably imposed by the chemicals in the seed.[9] Seed coat dormancy of Garcinia kola can be reduced by removing the seed coat before sowing, while physiological dormancy can be reduced by soaking in water for 72 hours.[10] Removal of the seed coat, soaking in water for 72 hours, placing inside air-tight transparent polythene bags and sprinkling water on the seeds when needed for constant moisture gives an early germination period of two weeks,[10] while the combination of freshly harvested seeds, pierced minimally and tied in black nylon reduces the germination period to between five and seven days as the piercing or nicking procedure makes for quick availability of water and oxygen to the seed embryo.[11"

EDIT found more info:

"Edible Uses

Seed - raw.  They have a bitter, astringent, aromatic flavour; somewhat resembling that of a raw coffee bean
The seeds are chewed along with the seeds of the true cola (Cola spp.). They are thought to enhance a person's enjoyment of the cola as well as allowing for consumption of larger quantities without indisposition

The extremely sour fruits are sometimes eaten.  They are orange-sized, and contain a yellow pulp surrounding four seeds"

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I used those octopus lights with CFLs back before LED was common.  They work well for trees because you can adjust the arms to be just the right distance from branches.  Your current setup may be just fine.  I dont know anything about PAR rating of plain old indoor lighting LED bulbs though

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My "blurple" light is definitely unpleasant to be around, so if you are growing somewhere that you plan to be near another type would be better.

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Ultimately, plants only need so much light intensity so closer isn't always better... without a PAR meter I don't know how you'd tell though.  Grow lights usual have guidelines saying what PAR to expect from various distances from the light so you can make best use of it.

If you are growing indoors you probably don't need or want the excess heat created by halide or sodium lamps as I assume your home is around 70F.  If you are growing outdoors or in a cool place that benefits from extra heat you have to have to consider if it would make more sense to use gas or fuel heat rather than electric and LEDs or fluorescent lights to produce light.  This only matters at a certain scale.

At small scale, inside your house, I suggest using LED or fluorescent because you're less likely to burn your plants, or burn your house down :)

EDIT - looks like metal-halide aren't as hot as I thought and are reasonably efficient... 300 watts might be okay if you have a cage around it to reduce fire hazard.  I think the high pressure sodium ones can be like 1,000watts.   I'm no expert in any of this, I just tried getting lights for the first time this year.  I've been looking at it on and off since before LEDs were commonplace.  Those Cree COB lights look pretty cool, didn't even know about them

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"blurple" is the perfect description of the LED type I posted here.... it is painfully bright and a blue-violet color that is hard to look at.  I keep a pair of sunglasses next to mine.


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: osage orange
« on: November 27, 2019, 12:01:48 PM »
Ah yes I had read about the bow-wood aspect... I found a few logs of it but nothing long enough or I'd try making a stick bow out of it

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lemon juice
« on: November 27, 2019, 09:31:12 AM »
Yeah I've had bottle lemon & lime juice and it is not the same at all. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lemon juice
« on: November 26, 2019, 10:42:10 PM »
Maybe they are pasteurized?   If you read the history of citrus juice and scurvy on wikipedia it says originally rum was added to preserve it, then sugar (Rose’s).  Pasteurization wasnt common until much later.  UHT pasteurized milk is good for months

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We were just talking about this on citrus forum a week or two ago:  http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=33652.0

I believe current best is the LED lights available on amazon similar to this:   https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QY16YRD/

I just got one a month or so ago and it seems to be working quite well.

From my brief research, the evidence for the distinction between growth and flowering lighting is weak.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How to get rid of this?
« on: November 26, 2019, 09:49:11 AM »
I fought cottony cushion scale for years with smothering sprays, but they kept coming back.  I eventually got rid of them using a systemic insecticide imidacloprid.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kumquat varieties update
« on: November 25, 2019, 10:45:09 PM »
Here's some of the centennials.  After leaving them on the tree a while longer the red stripes become more prominent and the flesh/juice taste is a little better, but the skin still tastes poor


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: osage orange
« on: November 25, 2019, 07:40:42 PM »
I already have a lot of pawpaw seedlings, have been thinking of buying a grafted cultivar and grafting cuttings from it onto my seedlings.

Osage orange wood is interesting, and the fruit is good for throwing at least :-p

Sounds like it has a ton of huge thorns though

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: osage orange
« on: November 25, 2019, 06:20:22 PM »
Thanks, I had never heard of che fruit.  Might try growing that too if I can find seeds and attempt grafting one day

https://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/che.html

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / osage orange
« on: November 25, 2019, 02:21:53 PM »
I have some woods behind my house I have been looking to plant some new trees in.  I remembered that there is an Osage Orange tree near my office - I see the fruit all over the road ever year -  so I was reading up on it.  Sounds like an interesting tree, wood could be useful.  Anybody try growing it?  I just collected a half dozen fruits from the road to harvest seeds from.

I realize the fruit isn't edible, looks neat though.  Might be fun to play baseball with :-p

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse heating invention
« on: November 25, 2019, 11:49:11 AM »
Peltier in reverse= seebeck generator.
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TEGs and TECs ,peltiers and seebeck generators are exactly the same thing just that TEGs are more expensive because they last to a slighter increased heat ,@ +150C .

Neat!  I didn't know this.  I realize any waste heat isn't really wasted in your case so that is a plus.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: When to pick citrus (dekopon)
« on: November 25, 2019, 11:39:08 AM »
Do you only have one fruit on your tree, or multiple?   If multiple I always pick the first once I see a bit of orange, then keep picking the next fruit at later stages of ripeness over a few weeks until quality declines, then I pick them all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse heating invention
« on: November 24, 2019, 10:19:45 PM »
I dont follow you.  Dont peltiers consume electricity to produce a heat gradient?  Are you talking about a “seebeck generator”?

I would think youd be better off using a turbine in the exhaust flue or something to drive a fan via belt.  I imagine you will lose a lot of energy doing heat->electricity->motor

Im interested to see how it turns out though

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse heating invention
« on: November 24, 2019, 07:31:38 PM »
Yeah a large ceiling fan at the top might help a lot

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I did w/ express shipping

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How big does Jackfruit need to be...?
« on: November 21, 2019, 04:31:53 PM »
Here's my jackfruit.   I highlighted the size it was when I got it ~6mo ago.... it grew a ton

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: My Citrus trees
« on: November 21, 2019, 04:26:40 PM »
Hah, I've never had faustrime either.   Oh well.   

So far all the green limes I've tasted were pretty much the same flavor

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pouteria Virdis Green Sapote seeds
« on: November 21, 2019, 04:25:20 PM »
Sent PM

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: My Citrus trees
« on: November 21, 2019, 01:13:28 PM »
I forgot that kaffir lime actually makes fruit!  How is it compared to other limes?

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