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Sumo Citrus
« on: December 24, 2020, 10:27:40 PM »
Season start in 10 days.
Do you guys pick and eat on the spot?
Or pick and eat 3 days later after vitamin C lowered?
Or store 20-40 days like in an article about Japanese secret aging?

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2020, 02:31:31 AM »
I picked 3 fruits already and ate 2 last week and 1 this week. They tasted good to me, sweet but with a little acid.
I will probably wait on the other fruits until end of Jan.

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2020, 07:57:52 AM »
Yes I'm waiting until February to pick and eat the 4 fruit on my tree.

I'm not familiar with the aging concept with citrus.

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2020, 12:09:51 PM »



Tree in a 15G pot
First time fruiting
Only 3 fruits so I’ll wait until February like you all.

Last year season started in April.
Season very early this year

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2020, 05:30:14 PM »
Seanny, nice fruits. My in-ground grafted sumo gets a bunch on the one branch and it looks like some more are ripe. I usually can tell by checking the weight of my fruits, if its heavy it is good to go. I will pick a few more and wait for end of Jan to pick the rest. I'm interested in seeing what the inside of my strange octopus sumo fruit but will let it go to the very end of season.

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2020, 05:31:33 PM »
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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2021, 04:51:25 PM »
2022 season starts in 15 days.
Anyone eating it now?



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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2021, 07:51:04 PM »
I've been eating them for weeks.  They were sour for a while but are sweet now, I expect the will continue to sweeten for weeks

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2021, 01:53:56 AM »
I have been picking some for the last 2 weeks as well but still not sweet, more acid than sweet even though fruit looks ripe color. Last year the best tasting for me was in Jan-Feb. March was to late and fruit was not as juicy.

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2021, 02:40:35 PM »



I cut 1 try.

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2021, 11:27:49 AM »
I have been picking some for the last 2 weeks as well but still not sweet, more acid than sweet even though fruit looks ripe color. Last year the best tasting for me was in Jan-Feb. March was to late and fruit was not as juicy.

VI 860   SHIRANUI MANDARIN that i grafted in june 2020. I tried first fruit on 18th of dec. The color had not fully turned. I just wanted to try it to see how it changes over the coming months. No seeds found on this particular fruit. Very acid with a brix of 13. I expect allowing acidity to settle for a month would produce a very good fruit. Texture was “meaty” the individual vesicles are distinct and produce a unique experience compared to other mandarins and oranges. Definitely looking forward to the remaining fruit in a month or so.   

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2021, 02:01:10 PM »
I’m glad I read this thread. I planted a shiranui this year but since it is mandarin, I assumed it would ripen when my other satsumas and Changsha mandarin ripen in late November and December. So, I should wait until January or February for my shiranui fruit, huh?

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2021, 02:19:01 PM »
Yes, I have several grafted sumo scions on many of my trees and some are 4 yrs old. The taste of the fruits will get better on the older trees. I do see half of my grafted sumo with fruits which may look ripe (fully colored orange) but if you taste them now it is still not sweet. It's edible but just a little sweetness and mostly acidic. Here's another fruit I picked a few weeks back that looks ripe, let it sit on the counter for 2 wks to see if it gets sweeter but not really. Still needs to hang on the tree until Jan-Feb here for me in SoCal.

My older branches have much larger fruits and they are still green, probably will not turn color for another month. If I wait until end of Jan to mid-Feb the fruits taste seems to be the best. Last year I waited until March but the fruit was past it full ripeness and it wasn't as good as the ones from Feb.


Here's the flat sumo fruit I picked, no seeds, and ate on 12/17/21. Still not sweet, but more acid taste as Goyo said.











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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2021, 05:02:49 PM »
My Sumos are just stating to show some yellow they are still about 90% green.

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2021, 05:19:45 PM »
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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2021, 08:00:59 AM »
Yes, I have several grafted sumo scions on many of my trees and some are 4 yrs old. The taste of the fruits will get better on the older trees. I do see half of my grafted sumo with fruits which may look ripe (fully colored orange) but if you taste them now it is still not sweet. It's edible but just a little sweetness and mostly acidic. Here's another fruit I picked a few weeks back that looks ripe, let it sit on the counter for 2 wks to see if it gets sweeter but not really. Still needs to hang on the tree until Jan-Feb here for me in SoCal.

My older branches have much larger fruits and they are still green, probably will not turn color for another month. If I wait until end of Jan to mid-Feb the fruits taste seems to be the best. Last year I waited until March but the fruit was past it full ripeness and it wasn't as good as the ones from Feb.


Here's the flat sumo fruit I picked, no seeds, and ate on 12/17/21. Still not sweet, but more acid taste as Goyo said.








Hi! Shiranui/sumo fruits can be flat? I have one growing like yours and think i was cheated because i never saw any flat sumo... it's the first fruit...

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2021, 06:54:25 PM »
Yes, I have many different sumo/shiranui budwood cuttings that were ordered in different years from the UCR budwood program and the ones I recently grafted in 2019 and 2020 have mostly flat fruits like in the photos above. But on the same grafted branches there are also some fruits with the big neck. Most of my older grafts from 2017 all have fruits with the big neck only.
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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2021, 08:33:03 PM »
Some of the neck on the Sumo comes from one it parent the Ponkan mandarin.
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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2021, 05:24:48 AM »
Thank's! It's just the first fruit, so it's too soon to take any conclusion... i will post pics of the fruit when he gets matured...  ;D

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2021, 11:21:50 PM »
Ate mine.
More sour than sweet.

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2021, 12:35:56 AM »
I just picked another flat shaped sumo today and tasted it since it felt like it was ripe (softer than others). It turned out to still be more acid than sweet. I also noticed there is something different about these flat sumo fruits. I found 6 seeds in one fruit which is not normal for sumo. Maybe the UCR trees have some bad varieties mixed in with the real ones. I have never seen 6 seeds in one sumo before (the ones with bump/neck). I still have about 8 more fruits on the grafted branches from 2019 with the flat shaped fruits so I will leave the rest on the tree until my other sumo fruits (with neck) are ripe in Jan-Feb to compare the taste.


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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2021, 02:12:36 AM »
My 2019 grafted branches have fruits with no bump and the one I ate today had 6 seeds. I will let these hang as long as possible (Jan-Feb) so I can compare the taste with my other sumo with bumps.

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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2021, 02:14:42 AM »
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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2021, 11:35:35 AM »
My fruit above had many seeds.
1 segment had 3 seeds.


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Re: Sumo Citrus
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2021, 01:11:41 PM »
The fruit on my Ponkan tree (a parent of Sumo) has much more of a neck than SC400's fruit shown above.

 

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