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Hey Shane,

How is your Biqi seedling doing? Have you found any male blooms on it yet?

Simon

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When the weather gets hot, best to move them to a cooler spot out of direct mid day sun. Make sure the plants are well watered in hot weather. If your trees are in ground, water well and you can put up some shade or move another potted plant next to it to give it some extra shade. I agree the fruit has a great flavor and smell. I keep my plants in pots so they are easier to move.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 18, 2024, 07:20:28 PM »
Lots of flowers here too. I love the red.  Canít remember if male or female (I think female) but Iím still looking for healthy vegetative growth over fruit.  Maybe next year Iíll graft on some scions of opposite sex but itís fun to have it healthy and thriving!





Rad! What rootstock is it on? Thx

I grafted that one onto Cerifera rootstock.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 09:46:26 PM »
Jeramyl, nice growth! Is that the same Biqi from me? Those are female blooms. Keep up the great growing!

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 05:58:01 PM »
I havenít seen male and female flowers on any of my plants yet. My Early Hermaphrodite is the only one that is supposed to produce both male and female blooms but so far Iíve only seen male blooms. According to the Chinese resellers/distributors from the group buys, Dongkui and several other varieties are supposed to set fruit on their own. A friend also contacted one of the sellers from a previous group buy and they sent a picture of Dongkui with both male and female blooms.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 12:21:22 PM »
Hereís the same picture with the supposed fruit circled.



There are several of these on my tree so fingers crossed that these are fruit set and that they can make it to harvest.

My Dongkui, An Hai, White Honey and special variety from a friend are also blooming. Late Rice (Wandao) and Biqi are slightly behind.

Hereís my An Hai blooming like crazy.











Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 12:07:53 PM »
I believe i have my first fruit set on my Big Black Carbon. Iíve been closely watching these blooms and as the pistil dried up, there is a round swelling at the base of the flower.



Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 12:01:38 PM »
Hey Rob,

Your plants look super healthy! Hopefully you will get some blooms next year. They should grow very fast in Florida.

RevivalROOts, that is awesome! I found the same thing on some of my Cerifera rootstocks.

My Hermaphrodite tree is going bonkers with Male blooms but these rain storms we get every other week is just washing away and soaking most the pollen which seems to be delaying any wind pollination.

I have multiple blooming hermaphrodite trees so I surrounded my grafted females with them in the hopes that there will be a better chance of wind pollination on the dryer days.

Hereís a couple shots of my Hermaphroditeís male blooms.








 
My Hermaphrodite is also still pushing new buds so hopefully the pollen will still be available when my later varieties open their blooms.

Hermaphrodite with some buds at various stages of growth








Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Are The Tastiest Jabos, 2024?
« on: February 08, 2024, 11:00:02 AM »
I have Sabara, Grimal, Red Hybrid, Restinga and Paulista. Only my Sabara, Red Hybrid and Grimal have fruited. My favorite is the red hybrid because of the flavor, sugar acid balance and thinner skin compared to the other varieties.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 03, 2024, 07:36:24 PM »
I think pinkturtle means itís on original Rubra rootstock from the group buy.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 03, 2024, 06:30:03 PM »
An Hai blooms opening up







Dongkui blooms





Pollen from male blooms before the rains





Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 03, 2024, 06:08:05 PM »
Hey pinkturtle, nice blooms on your tree. Iím surprised it bloomed with so little leaves on the tree. I see lots of new vegetative growth as well so hopefully it will grow out a lot this year.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 30, 2024, 10:24:29 PM »
I determined the sex of my seedling Yangmei trees by sending leaf samples to Marta Matvienko for testing. Iím not sure if she is still doing it and there is a minimum number of samples required. I forgot if it was 5 or 10. Seedling plants may or may not produce good quality fruit and commercial orchards use grafted trees to ensure quality of fruit and good production.

Simon

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I have a manualmjuicer I want to sell if you want to buy one cheap.  I bought a motorized one and dont use the manualmone anymore.

Hey Brad, which unit did you end up getting and would you recommend it? I also have the manual press but I installed a motor on it. I sometimes juice 5-10 gallons at a time and manually pressing it is tedious. The manual press is great in an emergency situation where there is no power.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 30, 2024, 12:31:09 AM »
Thanks everyone! Nate, your Biqi is looking great. I foresee Yangmei fruits at a future fruit tasting. I hope Weee will have more Yangmei fruit for sale this year. Iím so addicted to Yangmei and canít wait for the day when we can pick fruit off our own trees.

Someone should jump on Nateís scions. Itís good for practicing your grafting skills and you can get a male/female from it.

Simon

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Anytime Nate, sugarcane juice is always a hit at the fruit tasting parties! Now Iím crazy a nice cold glass myself. I guess Iíll have to chop some canes soon and get the juicer out. Sugarcane juice is absolutely incredible, especially on a hot Sumner day after working on the yard.

Simon

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San Diego Yellow is my favorite for pressing. Iíve experimented with about 10 different varieties and the SD Yellow grows well, is very sweet and doesnít fall apart when pressed like the softer purple and black varieties. The canes that have bulges arenít ideal for pressing. Brad has a stripped cane that he says is super good but I have not tried that variety yet.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 24, 2024, 05:37:26 PM »
Here is an update of my Early hermaphrodite. I didnít realize how beautiful the bright reddish pink blooms looked against the dark green foliage.









Some pictures of the new foliage. The lighter color of the new leaves looks reminiscent of a flower.




Hereís a more zoomed in picture of the female blooms/pistils on my Big Black Carbon.



When I saw the female pistils open on my Big Black Carbon, I immediately moved the pot next to my blooming hermaphrodite.


Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 18, 2024, 08:40:35 PM »
First female blooms to open is the Big Black Carbon grafted onto Cerifera rootstock. You can see the pinkish red stigmas at the base of the buds.



Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 18, 2024, 09:06:02 AM »
Kankan,

Grafting some of your rootstock shoots onto those other rootstocks is a good idea. You could end up with a male or you could get lucky and get a seedling that produces good quality fruit.

I donít know what they use in the commercial orchards in China but I assume itís just random seeds. From doing research on other fruit crops however, I know that the rootstocks can affect growth rate, production and quality of the fruit. This doesnít mean that it does the same for Yangmei but there is the possibility.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 17, 2024, 10:29:44 PM »
I would let one branch of the rootstock grow out in the hopes it is a male.There is a good chance your Dongkui will eventually fruit without a male but that can be many years down the road so you can potentially lose many years of fruit production without a male.

When you let the rootstock grow, be very careful that it doesnít take over the tree. The rootstock sprouts seem to grow vigorously at the expense of the grafted portion of the tree.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 16, 2024, 03:17:15 PM »
Thanks RevivalROOts,

I killed many Yangmei plants before I finally got it dialed in. How are your trees doing? Iím sure thereís other members with trees that are getting big now. Once you get them onto healthy rootstocks, they grow like weeds.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Store bought Mexican mango seedling
« on: January 13, 2024, 07:45:33 PM »
Iím assuming you mean the greenish to reddish Mexican mangos, if so, those are Monoembryonic and the fruit will likely be different than the original fruit that you ate. They still make great rootstock and the fruit can still be similar to the parent because the farms typically grow the same varieties next to each other so the pollinating parent is probably the same variety so it would be what is termed ďselfedĒ or pollinated by itself. Even if it was selfed, there will be a rearrangement of the genes so if the genetics was diverse, it will likely be different from the parent but if the genetics of the parents is not diverse, the fruit could be somewhat similar to the parent fruit.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 12, 2024, 08:50:41 PM »
An Hai buds



White Honey



Big Black Carbon from Bills order



Wandao


Dongkui


Early Hard Hermaphrodite male blooms opening up






Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 06, 2024, 03:43:52 PM »
I officially have tons of male blooms and pollen from my hermaphrodite tree. I shook the branches and can see a ton of pollen flying off the plant. My females a a bit behind but with my hermaphrodite plant being so big, there are a bunch of branches with buds that are in much earlier stages of maturity that should sync up with my female varieties.





Simon

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