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Artocarpus pretty much has two main branches (sub-genera)

Located in Croatia. Sending to most countries in Europe.
13€ plus postage.
The cultivar "Velikanski" produces large fruits, 5-7cm. A male is required for fruit-set.
Nurseries sometimes sell this as Actinidia kolomikta, but this is incorrect. It's definitely Actinidia arguta.
Three years old, grown bigger since photo below:

Not sure why a dwarfing rootstock is needed if the cultivar itself is supposed to be dwarfing. Maybe they've been a bit dishonest about the cultivar's properties after all. Pouteria are kind of notorious for not grafting well, so maybe that is why people's trees are having problems. Seems like unnecessarily weakening of the tree. Though I don't know why cutting-grown trees would be ok...

Suggestion to mods: Rename thread to Lucuma bifera.

I condemn and rebuke such interspecific hybrids. Can we get a moratorium on this until we figure out what the hell is going on?

Adam Shafran is a mad scientist who needs to be stopped. Eugenia is the genus with over a thousand species so I ask: is that not enough?

Unless there is some major benefit, such as the seedlessness of hybridized bananas, then such evolutionary shortcuts should be proscribed.

This kind of stuff should be experimental only and under strict supervision. It's part and parcel of the trans and diversity agenda.

A friend has a tree in a greenhouse, in ground. The new shoots necrotize and new leaves are wonky.

This species is now considered Gambeya albida... see https://powo.science.kew.org/results?q=Chrysophyllum%20albidum

It also wouldn't hurt to show a dissected fruit.

If you can supply viable seeds of Elder/Elderflower/Elderberry (Sambucus nigra or canadensis)...

Please PM me what cultivar you have and the price.

For those who want to mediate a peace process in the ongoing Garcinia celebica vs Garcinia hombroniana conflict:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225420512_Historical_review_and_notes_on_the_correct_scientific_name_for_seashore_mangosteen

After skimming a couple of articles on Myrica phylogeny and seeing the Bayesian dendrograms, I thought I would summarize the relatedness of the main spp. to Myrica rubra. This information might be useful for rootstock grafting, since I suspect there is too much intrageneric separation in a pantemperate genus as this for universal compatibility.

1. M. adenophora
2. M. nana
3. M. esculenta & M. integrifolia
4. M. caroliniensis, cerifera, pensylvanica, quercifolia & spathulata
5. M. gale & hartwegii

How on earth can you think that cabeludinha is a Plinia? You have been dealing with hundreds of Myrtaceae species for many years. This forum that you frequent every day uses the correct binomial.

The taxonomy of Pouteria torta has undergone quite a few changes in the lifetime of this thread. When this forum was born, there were four subspecies: torta, glabra, gallifructa, tuberculata.

About a decade ago, glabra and gallifructa were promoted to species in their own right, leaving torta and tuberculata.

Then, earlier this year (2023) a paper was published by Swenson et al. called Reassessment of generic boundaries in Neotropical Chrysophylloideae (Sapotaceae): Eleven reinstated genera and narrowed circumscriptions of Chrysophyllum and Pouteria. In it, tuberculata was promoted to a species, meaning Pouteria torta is now a bare species. Yesterday, Flora do Brasil updated their database. It will probably take POWO a couple of months. Who knows if this is what the dust will settle on but my guess is yes.

And for those interested in common vernacular, the term guapeva is much more associated with this species than abiurana. At least in Brazil. The old English name is listed as "Twisted Pouteria" (a direct translation of the Latin for P. torta) as in tortuous trunk, but of course no collector or farmer is going to call it that.