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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Nursery pots
« on: January 18, 2025, 10:20:10 AM »
You've got black gold right there. When I give away trees locally the only condition is I keep the pot.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another banner year for Rollinia coming
« on: January 18, 2025, 10:16:09 AM »
Mine is planted directly into the ground in my greenhouse, clay soil. It gets a ton of water and is humid all winter, drier in summer.
These have a reputation for being weedy and I agree. Constant new growth, weak limbs that snap easily, frequent dieback. New limbs often start low like watersprouts so I remove entire old limbs when pruning to keep its size in check. Lots of flowers but very low fruit set for me, I assume because of lack of pollinators and me being too lazy to hand-pollinate.
It fell over from its own weight last year, half-uprooting itself, but it didn't even faze it. I just pulled it back up and tied it to the greenhouse wall.
How big is yours?
These have a reputation for being weedy and I agree. Constant new growth, weak limbs that snap easily, frequent dieback. New limbs often start low like watersprouts so I remove entire old limbs when pruning to keep its size in check. Lots of flowers but very low fruit set for me, I assume because of lack of pollinators and me being too lazy to hand-pollinate.
It fell over from its own weight last year, half-uprooting itself, but it didn't even faze it. I just pulled it back up and tied it to the greenhouse wall.
How big is yours?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another banner year for Rollinia coming
« on: January 17, 2025, 04:32:08 PM »
Mine has a couple fruitlets, hoping I will get to try it for the the first time this year. Last year it set one fruit but the whole branch died before it matured.
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Grafted Loquat tree(s)
« on: January 16, 2025, 11:47:27 PM »
Check lara farms in miami, they have a mail order website
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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted - Shiranui Mandarin
« on: January 14, 2025, 08:02:40 PM »
I can send you some cuttings if AZ doesn't have an outright ban on importing scion. Not sure what their rules are. Pennsylvania isn't on anybody's "dangerous source" list but some states ban all imports or whitelist only approved nurseries
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai muk time to fruit
« on: January 13, 2025, 01:44:21 PM »
No I saw zero fruit or flowers on tree or ground, unfortunately
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai muk time to fruit
« on: January 11, 2025, 05:04:43 PM »
this is the Leu Gardens kwai muk
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai muk time to fruit
« on: January 11, 2025, 02:08:42 PM »
I am at Leu Gardens now, the kwai muk is really impressive! A giant lychee, too. It is nice to see some of the common eugenias at their full size - pitomba, COTRG, surinam, etc.
And of course their stone fruit trees all look near death, while these grow easily outdoors in PA.
In the whole place it is the old oak trees that are the most stunning, actually
And of course their stone fruit trees all look near death, while these grow easily outdoors in PA.
In the whole place it is the old oak trees that are the most stunning, actually
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai muk time to fruit
« on: January 10, 2025, 10:14:46 PM »And didn't mean to go off-topic. It took the kwai muk at Leu Gardens 12 years to fruit. It was planted in 2006 and fruited for the first time in 2018. More details here in case anyone's interested: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/58449-artocarpus-hypargyreus-fruiting-in-orlando/
Grafted seems like the way to go for faster fruit. After seeing how huge the trees get, I decided against growing it given limited space.
That article mentions "The fruits of this tree are sour, they taste similar to a very acidic loquat". That is quite different from all the other descriptions I've read of kwai muk
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai muk time to fruit
« on: January 10, 2025, 09:38:30 AM »Leu Gardens in Orlando also has a fruiting kwai muk. Although the sign says it fruits in summer and fall, it was dropping lots of fruit a couple weeks ago in late December.
Nice, I am heading to Orlando tomorrow
I will check it out
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Anyone successfully growing grapefruit in zone 7,8, or 9?
« on: January 10, 2025, 09:19:02 AM »
I am growing multiple grapefruit and pummelo in zone6, with the trees outdoors in summer and greenhoused in winter. They are very productive and the fruit is excellent
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Belle Isle Conservatory
« on: January 08, 2025, 10:34:09 AM »
Thanks for posting this. I used to live in Ann Arbor and was thinking of taking my family to visit again sometime. Detroit is right nearby, I didn't know about this conservatory at all
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai muk time to fruit
« on: January 07, 2025, 08:19:16 PM »
Nuts!
I am glad I started this hobby young enough that I can just shrug at the idea of waiting a decade+ for trees to grow.
I am glad I started this hobby young enough that I can just shrug at the idea of waiting a decade+ for trees to grow.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai muk time to fruit
« on: January 07, 2025, 07:34:59 PM »
I can't imagine waiting so long, what a tease. I hope I somehow have better luck with mine.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse artocarpus updates
« on: January 07, 2025, 04:08:36 PM »What is minimum temperature in greenhouse?
My minimum is 55F but I have read these can take mild frosts.
Jaboticaba45, what temp killed yours?
I see FlyingFoxFruits commented in the other thread that he has one 12-15yrs old that still hasn't fruited and only makes male flowers! I hope I have better luck.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai muk time to fruit
« on: January 07, 2025, 01:37:47 PM »
My in-ground kwai muk in my greenhouse is now flowering for the first time. It is four years old, trunk diameter nearly 3 inches, height maintained at about 10ft
That doesn't mean it will set fruit, but it's something.
That doesn't mean it will set fruit, but it's something.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse artocarpus updates
« on: January 07, 2025, 01:32:32 PM »
My kwai muk is setting its first flowers. It is so crowded in my greenhouse that I can't check thoroughly but most branches have a few flowers near the end so there are probably 50+ flowers overall. They are so tiny, the size of pinheads. Not sure if male or female. I am assuming these are separate male/female flowers like jackfruit
macro lens view
the trunk is 2.5 to 3inch diameter now
Hoping my jackfruit will set flowers again this year, and actually make fruit. Doesn't show anything yet but might be early.
macro lens view
the trunk is 2.5 to 3inch diameter now
Hoping my jackfruit will set flowers again this year, and actually make fruit. Doesn't show anything yet but might be early.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black Sapote Flavor Test (Lara Farms)
« on: January 06, 2025, 05:36:13 PM »Only got 3 out of 6 to ripen after multiple weeks. Cut them open today, no shot these were ever going to ripen
I had this happen with the first one I picked while still hard from my tree. It just shrivelled up and never turned black inside, it was still cream colored when I cut it, even lighter than yours.
Now I don't pick them from the tree until they are already soft. The guideline for picking "once the calyx is raised" makes no sense to me as they look this way many months before they ripen
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who wants a Mango sub forum besides me?
« on: January 06, 2025, 12:00:41 PM »
I will simply mention here the reason there is a separate citrus forum is unique:
There was once a very active citrus forum at citrusforumup.org that had to be abandoned because the hosting company choked and/or the sole user-approving-admin disappeared. Millet asked the TFF admins if they would host us, and they were gracious enough to carve out a place for everybody to move to inside TFF with Millet as admin.
This is how I ended up here, I used to only grow citrus. It is a shame that there isn't much citrus activity anymore, I am not sure of that is because of HLB virus, facebook/discord/reddit, or something else.
There was once a very active citrus forum at citrusforumup.org that had to be abandoned because the hosting company choked and/or the sole user-approving-admin disappeared. Millet asked the TFF admins if they would host us, and they were gracious enough to carve out a place for everybody to move to inside TFF with Millet as admin.
This is how I ended up here, I used to only grow citrus. It is a shame that there isn't much citrus activity anymore, I am not sure of that is because of HLB virus, facebook/discord/reddit, or something else.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: eugenia tenuipedunculata
« on: January 05, 2025, 04:25:27 PM »Have a bunch of these. They’re going ok but need up pots.
You get fruit yet or still waiting? How large?
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: vaniglia sanguingo fruit
« on: January 05, 2025, 01:30:42 PM »
Wow that is such a huge responsibility but an opportunity too. I have seen 100+yr bonsai at Longwood Gardens and they look incredible.
I have lost a couple of my bonsai citrus but they are all varieties I found lacking so I don't feel so bad about mine.
I have lost a couple of my bonsai citrus but they are all varieties I found lacking so I don't feel so bad about mine.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Fruiting Fern Leaf Guava
« on: January 05, 2025, 12:54:50 PM »
Mine just set its first flowers, so I expect to be able to try the fruit soon. My experience with guavas has been that most flowers set a fruit even without pollinators
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / eugenia tenuipedunculata
« on: January 05, 2025, 12:51:57 PM »
Anybody else growing this? I saw K-Rimes mentioned it once. I got mine from Exoteninsel, it is the fastest growing and healthiest of my uncommon eugenias. I am hoping it will flower this year, hasn't yet.
My tree is about 4ft tall and growing in a turkey roaster pan.
this is the seller image and description of the fruit at https://www.exoteninsel.com/Eugenia-tenuipedunculata-1-germinated-seed-1-gekeimter-Samen/EI11128:
Hmm it says about 4 years to flower, mine is almost 3yrs from seed. Maybe I have a while longer to wait.
My tree is about 4ft tall and growing in a turkey roaster pan.
this is the seller image and description of the fruit at https://www.exoteninsel.com/Eugenia-tenuipedunculata-1-germinated-seed-1-gekeimter-Samen/EI11128:
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This Eugenia is very rare and was discovered by Helton Muniz during his expedition in mid-October 2014
in the remains or remaining parts of the semi-deciduous forest
in the municipality of Angatuba (Sao Paulo), where he found only two specimens.
The Eugenia pedunculata is a beautiful tree with delicious fruits.
The fruits come in yellow and black. This is the black-fruited species.
In Brazil, this Eugenia flowers for the first time after about 4 years.Hmm it says about 4 years to flower, mine is almost 3yrs from seed. Maybe I have a while longer to wait.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: vaniglia sanguingo fruit
« on: January 05, 2025, 12:44:46 PM »
Six years later, my vangiglia sanguingo has been condemned to forever-bonsai. It made a surprisingly large crop this year, given its tiny size. It's container is about 14"x9" The fruit looks really nice inside but is insipid as usual. Might be good with citric acid sprinkled on it.
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Etsy warnings/recommendations
« on: January 04, 2025, 04:11:47 PM »I haven't bought fruit trees on etsy, but I have bought a lot of Canna Lilies and Heliconias to coplant with bananas. There is a seller called TropicalHeliconias in Puerto Rico that is really excellent - all the heliconia rhizomes I got from them were massive and well packed and labelled. They also have a lot of crazy varieties that I have never seen before.
Thanks for mentioning this, I really like cannas and I've been thinking about getting one of those lobster claw heliconias
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