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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's my first time grafting
« on: January 14, 2025, 12:00:07 PM »
Might be a good idea to wrap the unions with something to give them a little more strength; once the branches start bending with fruit, any weak spots in the union could cost you the branch. I do it pretty habitually on all my unions once I remove the grafting plastic wrap; it makes for a prettier union scar and there's no worry of one side separating (there's no need to trim deadwood, either).


Spaugh had recommended Texas Roll Flagging tape awhile back for grafting, so I picked up a roll to test it out. I don't like it for grafting, but it is perfect for what I am recommending here. It'll give you a nice, tight wrap, but it also has give to it. I imagine you could wrap it too thick and cause the branch to girdle, but I've never had it happen (don't tie it off tight, try to allow some give/expansion). The tape expands over time with the branch, so I don't have to twice about it for a year or two and then remove it for good. It comes in a bunch of colors, so you could use it to differentiate different varieties or seasons/years the grafts were made, etc.,.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart vs Cecilove Mango
« on: January 08, 2025, 11:25:19 AM »
Quote from: johnb51 on January 07, 2025, 07:26:06 PM
Quote from: Greater Good on January 07, 2025, 06:46:47 PM
John -
Are you impuning that my Cecilove is in question due to it's health?
Now don't be offended.  Did you get your tree from Dr. Campbell?
My Cecilove is from TAF and has been fruiting for two seasons, no doubt what I have.
I know there are pictures on my phone from when it flushed a few years back; I am 90% sure they look something like GG's, but I don't have the time to scroll through Gigs of pics right now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart vs Cecilove Mango
« on: January 08, 2025, 11:19:53 AM »
Quote from: pineflatwoods on January 08, 2025, 10:35:03 AM
Here is my sad example


I have seen that so many times, fatal flowering would be a good term for it. The last thing a small, less-than-healthy grafted tree needs to do is put precious energy into flowering, but they do it determinedly.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles - Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: WTB: Okinawan Sweet Potato Slips
« on: January 07, 2025, 01:55:13 PM »
Have you looked on Etsy?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart vs Cecilove Mango
« on: January 07, 2025, 01:52:48 PM »
Quote from: johnb51 on January 07, 2025, 10:56:52 AM
Where did you get your tree?  The leaves on my CeciLove look NOTHING like that.  I got my tree from TAF so I'm 95% certain it's the real thing.  I hope others with the variety will comment.  I feel pretty confident that your tree is not CeciLove.  I just saw a video with young CeciLove trees today.
Shape would be the better determiner, IMO; color of new leaves seems to vary based on health/nutrition of the tree (rootstock may also play a role). I had the same variety grafted to an in-ground and one in a pot; the potted flushed a brilliant scarlet color while the other was nothing special. The potted tree died later that season....

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / MOVED: Fresh Florida Avocados (Tasting Monroe)
« on: January 03, 2025, 11:40:08 AM »
This topic has been moved to Tropical Fruit Discussion.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=49812.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How did Milton affect your jackfruit trees?
« on: January 03, 2025, 11:38:05 AM »
F'd nearly all my 2-3' Jack seedlings up, they are just now starting to sprout new growth. Wind wasn't the problem; it was salt spray burning the leaves almost entirely (even though I'm a few blocks from the Intercoastal). Salt spray did a number on all my fruit trees in one section of my yard (except for my one small Achachairu, which didn't get any noticeable salt damage).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is this front yard jackfruit fair game?
« on: December 29, 2024, 08:50:29 AM »
It's no more fair game than a bike, lawnmower, dog, etc., in the same spot. It's clearly in and over their yard; it is their property and it would be stealing from them if someone took one in Florida. Might be hard to get a law officer to do something about it unless they are right there when it's happening (and even then it'll probably result in a warning), but it's not acceptable legally.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Semil 55 Avocado
« on: December 18, 2024, 11:12:13 AM »
I have Semil 34, and it is tasty. Good to have when all the stores have in-stock now are the fake-Hass

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / MOVED: Help with avocado ID
« on: December 04, 2024, 12:00:30 PM »
This topic has been moved to Tropical Fruit Discussion.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=57238.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado cocktail tree
« on: November 08, 2024, 12:52:04 PM »
My Semil 34 fruit came off super clean and delicious. Creamy, slightly firm with a mild sweet/nutty flavor; stayed in the fridge for weeks after it softened before I peeled it. Pretty big fruit with a smallish seed, just ate my last one two weeks ago. It's a grower, doesn't have any issues with our Florida sun, but it'll take over if you have it paired with something that doesn't similarly thrive.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Milton
« on: October 12, 2024, 11:12:05 AM »
We topped out at 102mph in my part of Sarasota (right next to Siesta Key). We have our power back and only have yard clean-up of small/mid oak tree branches and lots of downed big fishtail palms. Fishtails are great for a fast-growing, tall privacy hedge, but I'll never plant them near anything I care about again. Mango trees all fared well, but avocado trees are all slightly/largely askew. Large pine trees seemed to have fared the worst; they seem to break, not bend.


When the eye was breaking up right before it came ashore it seemed like we were going to get lucky once again here, but that backside was so fierce. I hate to imagine what a 165mph storm would do. Really don't like thinking about what the future holds for us here; these monster storms will hit us multiple times each year with the Gulf annually getting so hot. We are raised on the hero who saves the day at the last minute, the scientist who comes up with the antidote or invention that saves humanity from extinction, but the reality is we are stuck living in this situation; it's the new normal.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What I should I do with my mango trees
« on: October 04, 2024, 12:22:40 PM »
Quote from: MasOlas on October 04, 2024, 12:04:09 PM
And what if I left three Sweet Tart in one pot. Can they coexist forever? I was toying with using the smaller trunks as grafting scions on a top worked Manila next spring.
It's not recommended, and one would eventually likely overtake the others. Waiting while they compete for nutrients, sunlight and space until a winner appears is lost growth-time. You could try to approach graft them (if they are close enough), and then cull the weaker tops.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What I should I do with my mango trees
« on: October 04, 2024, 11:02:15 AM »
You'd be bare-rooting them to separate, which can be very stressful, but with that many years to go before you plant them I'd do it. Here's what I would do when separating seedlings:
  • Have the new pots ready to go and most the soil ready that you'll be needing. Take two bamboo stakes (or whatever) and stand them up in the new containers, make a mark on each stake at the level where you want the top of the soil in the container. 
  • Get some tarp down to work on-top of, lay the pot on it's side, give it a few rolls to loosen up the soil and then work them out by gripping the base of the trees with one hand and working the pot in the other.
  • Once they are free, work all the soil out and gently shake/push/pull them apart; it can be quite a fun puzzle....unless you start snapping large roots off.
  • For each, take a stake and line the base/collar of the tree up with the mark you made on the stake, then tie the tree to the stake in several places.
  • Take the soil from the old container and mix it with the new soil well. This is probably not vital/necessary, but I like to treat it like moving a fish to a new fish tank (and you need less new soil).
  • Place the staked tree in the center of the container, be careful to spread/distribute the roots around the base of the container (if they are longer than the stake). Optimally, the container is deeper than the length of the roots, so they aren't immediately in a spin-out situation.
  • Take scoops of the soil and slowly add it to the container. As the soil level rises, gently spread the roots that are being covered. You want to get them reasonably spread laterally; just dumping the soil in will force the roots close to each other and the center of the pot, not great for stability and nutrient/moisture uptake. You may want to water at some level(s) as you go, depends on how big your pot is and how dry the climate. Dry-pockets aren't a huge concern for me here, but CA is much drier.
  • Once you've reached the soil level mark you made on the stake, add an inch or three more above that to account for the soil settling. 
  • Give it a good watering 2-3 times and place it in complete shade for a few days/weeks. If the leaves sag/drop you'll know it's stressed; you don't want to put it in any direct sunlight when it's stressed. Don't let the soil completely dry-out, but also don't keep the soil so wet you induce root-rot.
  • After a few days/weeks, if the leaves are perky and the tree seems happy, start to introduce it back to full sun starting with direct morning sun.
Good Luck!

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Shade Grown Florida Tomatoes
« on: October 03, 2024, 08:42:27 PM »
Quote from: Green _ScienX on July 09, 2024, 01:41:22 AM
Hi @DavidBYE,

Thanks for sharing your experience! 🌿 I completely agree with you and like about the benefits of planting under trees. It's amazing how much healthier and longer-lived the plants can be with a bit of shade.

The summer heat can indeed be harsh on veggies, causing stress and disappointment. Growing veggies in the fall/winter or providing some shade during the hottest part of the day sounds like a smart approach. It’s all about finding ways to make gardening enjoyable and sustainable.

Have you ever tried using coco peat for your plants? It helps retain moisture and keeps the roots cool, making it great for managing heat stress. Green ScienX offers fantastic coir grow bags that could be a perfect addition to your gardening setup. Happy gardening!

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Hi Suganya. Happy to have you contribute to the conversations, but no more product links or marketing please. You have your company name/link in your posts, that's enough.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Grasshoppers
« on: October 01, 2024, 02:42:26 PM »
I have those giant swallow tail caterpillars that look exactly like bird poop all over my citrus currently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cY26ft5AwA
Pretty butterfly, but they are so destructive to the few healthy leaves I have on some of my small citrus trees. Most leaves are mangled from CLM and/or ACP, but the caterpillars (anecdotally) seem to stay away from those.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: looking to buy 10 acres of land in central florida
« on: September 23, 2024, 11:47:46 AM »
This topic will be a spam magnet, but I'll leave it open for awhile

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What unique avocado varieties are you growing in Florida?
« on: August 20, 2024, 03:27:39 PM »
I have Semil 34, don't see a bunch of people growing variety, but it's easy to grow here. First fruit are hanging now, so we'll see how it tastes.


I have one branch of Improved Pollack grafted in, but it's not thriving. Hoping to get a few more inches on the branch and then I'll try grafting in somewhere else.


Also have a Dupuis that is thriving in an air pot, almost 4' tall; going to plant it soon.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lamb Hass vs Florida Hass vs Hass in South Florida?
« on: August 18, 2024, 10:09:07 AM »
I have Lamb and Super grafted in on a tree. Lamb is on it's 3rd year (got it from a Homestead grower, but they don't sell scions), so I let it hold fruit for the first time. It held many dozens of small fruit, then a big shedding had it down to a few dozen, but the lack of rain during the early summer really hit Lamb hard & whittled that number down to around half a dozen now. Nearly all the fruit is sun-burnt, but there are maybe two in constant shade that look perfect. Only one Super is holding, but it's also looking like it'll hold through ripening. Can't speak to quality yet, and neither are where I'd be taking scions. If any of the Lamb fruit is promising, I might prune all the fruit next season and let it get bigger.


They are grafted in with Semil 34 on the same tree, and that variety is trying to take over. Semil's fruit is slightly larger and the variety seems much better suited to my climate. Lamb doesn't like the late afternoon scorchers, but Semil doesn't show any ill effects.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« on: August 09, 2024, 02:47:13 PM »
Quote from: roblack on August 09, 2024, 08:37:45 AM
Quote from: johnb51 on August 08, 2024, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: JakeFruit on August 08, 2024, 09:52:34 AM
Cecilove and Sweet Tart were 1A & 1B favorites in my yard this year.
Could you comment on the difference in flavor between SweetTart and CeciLove?  I planted CeciLove instead of SweetTart because I wanted a tree that would be easier to manage and keep reasonably small.

My take on the difference bw CL and ST is: ST has more acid punch, CL has more spice with balanced acid. CL is a little more complex, ST is a little more of a flavor bomb.

They are both super sweet and delicious with no fiber; I must grow both of them.
Yeah, they are almost like siblings in their flavor profile. Both are very intense, each gets an “oh wow!” when I let a newbie sample them. Sweet Tart is a darker flesh and ever so slightly richer experience, while Ceci is a balanced, exquisite explosion in your mouth. ST is like my favorite candy growing up, while Ceci reminds me of my favorite champagnes. Gotta have both if at all possible, but I’d pick Ceci if I had to.


ST fruits in clusters (so lots of smaller fruits) and is definitely lankier. Ceci was mostly individual hanging fruits for me and has a denser canopy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« on: August 08, 2024, 09:52:34 AM »
Cecilove and Sweet Tart were 1A & 1B favorites in my yard this year. My two Little Gem fruits held on forever and were very meh. I picked one way too soon and let the other hang until two weeks ago when the color change and aged stem seemed to indicate it was ripening; it was the size of a cannonball and tasted only slightly better.


Honey Kiss are coming off the tree now and they are also underwhelming, so far (lots still hanging). Edible, but all have some level of jelly-seed and taste similar to some of the random seedling trees in vacant lots I've had over the years. First year for them in my yard and the fruit production was impressive. All my Orange Essence are still hanging, not one dropped during Debby.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ambika Mango
« on: August 05, 2024, 11:33:37 AM »
Piva is a deep, rich color of red all over (I'd call it burgundy). Flavor hasn't been anything close to special, but the fruit is beautiful.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: July 30, 2024, 05:49:17 PM »
Quote from: SanDiegoCherimoya on July 28, 2024, 10:32:49 PM
Pretty much you mfers are fake as f. I know moderator of the forum. He ask me to weed his property, didn't have time. Fuck off.
Whatever prompted this streak of yours needs to stop; nobody comes here for the drama, cut it out or get gone. I've dealt with more complaints about you in the last three weeks than all other members complaints combined in the last year+. Stop with the anger and the insults, turn the page please.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill 80 Mango and Harvest Moon Mango
« on: July 23, 2024, 01:51:37 PM »
Use the search function to search on each variety name https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?action=search
You'll find numerous pages of previous discussions to digest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: California New Permanent Water Restrictions
« on: July 10, 2024, 07:19:48 PM »
Quote from: SanDiegoCherimoya on July 10, 2024, 05:43:40 PM
Yeah your talking about me. Sucks you're a brainwash fool that can only articulate the mainstream narratives fed to you. The sower of seeds directs the plow.
You're not special, neither am I. Save yourself and keep it a secret.

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