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hi guys some short videos of the rare fruit i saw at the botanical garden.

a.urbaniana
https://youtube.com/shorts/URY7QkYR2rY?feature=share
first time that i actually see the fruit

a.haitiensis subsp appediculata
https://youtube.com/shorts/F0lMfSnGKc8?feature=share
very small plant and fruit. (maybe a super dwarf rootstock?)

e.monticola
https://youtube.com/shorts/hSxRyS8K1yI?feature=share
had not seen it with fruit in a long time

myrcia sp
https://youtube.com/shorts/V5Oiy5N1u4o?feature=share
lemony smell and flavor. it's said to be myrcia citrifolia.

 Some pictures requested by a friend, fellow annona collector and other friends who started this adventure of collecting annonas in an effort to try to collect save some species from extinction. So many thanks to Saltman,JoeP450,Tropical Fruit Bonsai,mikesid and others
who read my rants and such as we are investigating documentation and looking for seeds and plants for annonas from the caribbean region.
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First things first this is the annona found in "Barreras" province of Azua...the seedling has shown some good progress.
Found and given to me in a trip when searching for a.dumetorum
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What we have here is the controversial annona bought from the JBN(national botanical park) of santo domingo...which are supposed to be a.dumetorum as well but show a phenotype with long and thin leaves that made some people think it's actually another species. So we are still trying to find out...


annona "Barreras" compared to JBN "long leaf" annona.

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My annona Urbaniana plants.


annona Barreras compared to a.urbaniana
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all of the 3 endemic rare annonas collected so far, left urbaniana, center "Barreras" and right JBN.
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annona collection


soursop plants


golden soursop from seedtalk



uvaria lancifolia


cherimoya


custard apple=a.reticulata


a.mucosa or the so previously called rollinia mucosa "candongo" vs rollinia deliciosa "biriba"


sugar apples, mostly from achetadomestica


junglesop


air layered soursop


our soursop plant (horribly pruned again)


sugar apple volunteer not doing well.


a.deceptrix from Fruit Lovers


a.sylvatica from Hapajoe


one of my Ilamas


a.primigenia from tradewinds


porcelia nitidifolia(peru) from farmwell


a.montana seedlings

Some ebooks i've found over time of important books from the greater antilles. (will add more later)

Flora of Puerto Rico
https://ur.b-ok.lat/s/flora%20of%20puerto%20rico/?e=1

Flora de Cuba (Hermano León, Joseph Sylvestre Sauget,Hermano Alain, Henri Alain Liogier)
1946   Flora de Cuba Volumen I http://repositorio.geotech.cu/jspui/handle/1234/361
1951   Flora de Cuba Volumen II http://repositorio.geotech.cu/jspui/handle/1234/362
1953   Flora de Cuba. Volumen III http://repositorio.geotech.cu/jspui/handle/1234/363
1957   Flora de Cuba. Volumen IV http://repositorio.geotech.cu/jspui/handle/1234/364
1964   Flora de Cuba. Volumen V http://repositorio.geotech.cu/jspui/handle/1234/365
1974   Flora de Cuba. Suplemento http://repositorio.geotech.cu/jspui/handle/1234/1102

Flora de la española vol 9 (can't really find the other volumes outside of libraries)
https://repositoriobiblioteca.intec.edu.do/handle/123456789/240

Karpos : collection of fruit from the island of Santo Domingo
http://colecciones.agn.gob.do/opac/ficha.php?informatico=00109336PI&suposi=1&idpag=1700174895&codopac=OPPUB&presenta=digitaly2p#viajeinicial

Diccionario Botanico De Nombres Vulgares De la española (Henri Alain Liogier)
https://repositorio.unphu.edu.do/bitstream/handle/123456789/207/Diccionario%20Botanico%20De%20Nombres%20Vulgares%20De%20la%20espa%c3%b1ola.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

So i was given the phone number of a farmer who grows all this stuff in the Dominican Republic and it's low-mid elevation like 180mt...sure it's not sea level that would be a bit too much but still a bit shocked....

Ultra tropicals like Breadfruit
tropicals:Coconut,Mango,Cambuca
subtropicals:Guaviyu,Litchi,Cherimoya Cumbe(for you ppl in florida),Capulin cherry
and even temperate stuff like real cherries and peaches all growing at the same place(that has little to no cold)!!!

Which means you can grow all this stuff in a slightly tropical-subtropical place if you find the right varieties.

So these are 4 mabolo trees(if i'm not wrong)...very old trees and the locals believed it was mangosteen(but obviously not)

Not sure when exactly these will turn into fruit but the only time i found a fruit there, was small and no seeds inside but it tasted quite good. I have one seedling from tradewinds but as you know this is dioecious so i want at least 4 plants.

Eugenia Polyclada 2 seeds Auction
https://www.ebid.net/na/for-sale/eugenia-polyclada-extremely-rare-2-seeds-207494348.htm


Eugenia Ligustrina-Privet stopper Hundreds of seeds...10,25,50,100 and 200 seed Auctions
https://stores.ebid.net/digigarden-seeds

My Eugenia Ligustrina-Privet stopper loaded with fruit...fruits are starting to ripen right off the tree.
Small plant, fruits early, easily grown in containers,heavy fruiting,beautiful fruits and plant.






$2 bucks per fruit/seed
seed count:1650+
seeds left: 400+
reserved:
Itay Menashe x 25-30 shipped
Ohad x 10-12 shipped
Sunrisefruit x 8 shipped
Bonsaibeast x 400 shipped
SouthBayHapaJoe x 50 shipped
summerdoon x 100 shipped
Bellamy x 200 shipped
(Local) x 200
ebid x 50 shipped
ebay 200 shipped



Older pics

more pics here https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=46526.0
to buy more stuff here---> https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=46703.0

i am able to send seeds to USA and Israel with no problem but they told i can't send packages to Europe or Australia right now...

Then if possible i would like to make a deal with a VERY trustworthy member that has time to receive the seeds i owe to deliver to europe and australia..3 ppl total and the helper would get 20 FREE seeds of annona urbaniana and 30 FREE seeds of rollinia mucosa, 90 dollar value.

ty

hi again, someone wants me to ship 10 sapote seeds to Israel but i think it might be too much...what is the weight?
should i limit this to a max of 5?

Sorry guys not able to sell or trade at least for now. current packages not able to deliver will be refunded.

You can view some pictures of rare stuff on this thread --> https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=46526


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               THE SPECIES<----You can suggest stuff, setting the rarity of the species for now.

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Averrhoa Carambola=Carambola   
Rarity 1
Available:Yes


Averrhoa Bilimbi=Bilimbi
Rarity 2
Available:?
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Annona Muricata=Guanabana/Soursop
This soursop fruit is from the supermarket,quite small. That may not be a bad thing for people trying to control their sugar and maybe grow it in a container.

origin:supermarket fruit

Rarity 1
Available:Yes
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Annona Reticulata=Mamón/Custard apple
Rarity 1
Available:?


Annona Glabra=Bagá/Pond Apple
Rarity 2
Available:?
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Annona Urbaniana=Mamón de perro(translation a custard apple for dogs xD)/Urban Annona
 It's an extremely rare annona Endemic to the Dominican Republic. It was or maybe is under threat of extinction but now it's doing better as the botanists have reproduced a lot of seeds. The vulgar name is mamón de perro meaning a dog's custard apple, that may be a good or a bad thing regarding flavor. Only a few people have tasted or seen the fruit.

origin:seed bank

Rarity 3
Available:? Sold out but can get more if enough demand.
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Annona Montana=Mountain Soursop
Rarity 2
Available:No
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Bixa Orellana=Bija/Bixa
Rarity 1
Available:Yes
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Chrysophyllum Cainito=Caimito
Rarity 1
Available:Yes.
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Chrysophyllum Oliviforme=Caimito de perro(translation a caimito for dogs)/Satin leaf
Rarity 2
Available:?
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Chrysobalanus Icaco var icaco=Icaco
Rarity 1
Available:No
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Coccoloba Uvifera=Uva de playa/Sea grape
Rarity 1
Available:?
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Cordia Sebestena=Geiger Tree
Rarity 1
Available:Yes
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Crescentia Cujete=Higuero/Calabash Tree
Rarity 1
Available:Yes
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Eugenia Monticola=Arrayán
Rarity 2
Available:?
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Eugenia Uniflora=Pitanga
Rarity 1
Available:soon, it's flowering.
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Eugenia Domingensis=Guázara
Rarity 3
Available:?
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Eugenia ? Ligustrina=Escobón Liso/Privet Stopper
Rarity 2
Available:soon, it's flowering.
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Eugenia Axillaris=White Stopper
Rarity 1
 My plant germinated from a seed from FL because the ebay ones almost never germinate
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Eugenia Foetida=Spanish Stopper
Rarity 1
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Eugenia Procera=Bastard Blackberry
Rarity 3
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Rollinia Mucosa(wild seedy type)=Candongo
Rarity 1
Available:Yes
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Genipa Americana=Jagua/Genip
Rarity 1
offer: extra seed every 2 seeds
Available:Yes
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Pouteria Sapota=Zapote/Mamey Sapote
Rarity 1
Available:Yes
Notes:Large Seed(2x the price). 10 seeds per pack MAX.
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Pouteria Domingensis=Totuma
Rarity 3
Available:No, may take years for my plant to fruit.
A species under critical danger of extinction. This is quite short compared to most pouterias. The fruit is said to be good i've never seen it.
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Pouteria Dictyoneura=Cuero de Cerdo(translation pig skin)
Rarity 3
Available:No
this is Pouteria Dictyoneura-Cuero de cerdo known as cocuyo in puerto rico. It's another extremely rare species..
in DR it's used for wood and in PR it was used by shamans and native witch doctors for medicinal purposes. I do not know if this is edible or if there's any meat to eat but it is a medicinal and collectors plant.
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Pithecellobium Dulce=Jina Extranjera/Guachumil
Rarity 1
Available:?
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Manilkara Zapota=Níspero/Sapodilla
Rarity 1
Available:Yes
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Guazuma Spp=Guácima/ West Indian elm
Rarity 1
Available:Yes
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Morinda Citrifolia=Noni
Rarity 1
Available:Yes
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Mammea Americana=Mamey
Rarity 2
Price $4 per Seed
Available:maybe/soon. some trees are fruiting
Notes:Large Seed(2x price)
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Diospyros digyna=Zapote Negro/Black Sapote
Rarity 2
Available:?
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Bucida Buceras=Gri Gri
Rarity 2
Available:?
This plant has medicinal uses but it's not a fruit tree. The fruit is toxic so never eat this.
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Bursera Simaruba=Almácigo Rarity 2 Available:? This plant has medicinal uses but it's not a fruit tree. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Theobroma Cacao=Chocolate Rarity 1 Available:Yes Notes:Large Pods. Price still to be set. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wallenia Laurifolia=Caimoní Nativo Rarity 3 Available:Yes --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neem Rarity 1 Available:? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vegetable seeds Available:? more to come soon Let me know if you have ideas ty.

Two Eugenias i was sold a long time ago as unidentified.

Take a look at this beauty, it's E.ligustrina as the seedlings from this are identical to my ligustrina seedlings. It's a very short plant and puts a tons of flowers and tons of little fruit.

so i took all my annona seed. new seed and others that have not sprouted yet in a few months and also ilama seeds i had stored. now i opened a progib 40 sg small pack. it says 2.5gr...after pouring some of it in a 0.75L vase pf water but wasn't doing much with the TDS meter. so i put all of it which should have been a lot but then it would only read 115 ppm max so i took it all the liquid and heat it up almost boiling it and then after cooling it went to 132 ppm. now it's down to 128 ppm. should be way more than this maybe 10 times more idk what i did wrong xD but anyways i used all this liquid with my seeds idk if will do anything. help