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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Creating a new citrus chimera like Prague Citsuma
« on: December 10, 2024, 02:20:53 PM »
What chimeras would be interesting?.

Using a fast/vigorous rootstock , a variety of poncirus most likely. And cause the chimera to be producing fruits of lemons, oranges, limes, pomelos and more.

But this is a heavy undertaking, i wonder if there are "safe" ways that have higher percentage of mutation to fuse these cells together in a specific order.

It worked for prague, but its strange that there isnt another one out there.. Maybe because its unnecesary since it doesnt produce well.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First fruits of Citrangeremo
« on: December 08, 2024, 03:14:55 PM »
I have a C. ichangensis x C. sinensis tree that is now about 2m high. It stood in a position too shadowy and is now potted again. The problem is that it is the variety about which all say that it is probably no hybrid at all but just an early orange.
I have though crossed my C. ichangensis with Chandler, Amoa8 and Sucrena and hope for better hybrids than the one true hybrid with sweet orange that I know of.
When, however, somebody would send me budwood of the true C. ichangensis x C. sinensis I would gladly receive it.  :)

I Sucrena "Sukkari"? I saw it a while ago on adavos store. It is known to be mostly sweet.

And how are the fruits of that ichangxsinensis, i also own one which is very small inside a unheated greenhouse. Also similar climate to yours.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First fruits of Citrangeremo
« on: December 08, 2024, 02:59:13 PM »
Insane, did you not also own a ichang x sinensis? How is that doing?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Creating a new citrus chimera like Prague Citsuma
« on: December 08, 2024, 02:56:48 PM »
mine is on a branch of taitri, it has outgrown the original plant by several feet in half the time "raregrowsNJ" on youtube have some videos showing it
which brings me to the thought, could a graft chimera be created using another chimera? chimera of a prague chimera from taitri or swingle graft ->?

Interesting, thanks for that information.

Also, did anyone try to graft their Prague Chimera on a vigerous rootstock like swingle?

I watched a youtube video yesterday with harvest on one of those prague chimera in zone 7, but he mentioned in the comment it grew for 8 years. (which i guess , most likely flying dragon rootstock.).

I would like to see something like taitri, or any vigerous cold hardy rootstock, even a mutated strain that doesnt have thorns, being the other chimera half. The only important part would be vigerous growth.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Creating a new citrus chimera like Prague Citsuma
« on: December 07, 2024, 09:41:55 AM »
Interesting, thanks for that information.

Also, did anyone try to graft their Prague Chimera on a vigerous rootstock like swingle?

I watched a youtube video yesterday with harvest on one of those prague chimera in zone 7, but he mentioned in the comment it grew for 8 years. (which i guess , most likely flying dragon rootstock.).

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Creating a new citrus chimera like Prague Citsuma
« on: December 06, 2024, 02:31:21 PM »
On this topic anyone ever read about this variety,"SLÁVA MIČURINA" ?
Description translated from adavo: "originated from an adventitious (accidental) callus bud at the point of fusion of a pomelo with an orange tree as a result of the work of Prof. Mamporii in Sukhumi in the former Soviet Union, now Georgia, named after the Soviet breeder Michurin. It shows signs of both an orange tree and a pomelo and is to a certain extent frost-resistant, so its classification among orange trees is not accurate. It has both tripartite and simple leaves. The fruits are edible, small, sweet and tasty."

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: cold-stratification
« on: November 26, 2024, 07:50:30 AM »
Newbgrower,
At what temperature do you keep your seeds? If the temperature is close to 20°C (68°F) or even higher, then something is wrong, the seeds should have already germinated. I sowed about a hundred poncirus seeds on October 20, and about 25 seedlings have already sprouted. They are at a temperature of 18°C (64°F).


(Spigel-Roy & Goldschmidt. The Biology of Citrus, 1996, page 49)
Yes i did it was arround indoor temperature of ~20-25°C. (i always notice bad smell with these seeds after one week.)
For now i put 25seeds in refrigirator (where i would put my vegetables, not freezing).I will wait 2 weeks and attempt again with those.
Even to be sure, i only picked up fruits that were on the ground.
(By the way, i was always able to germinate any type of citrus, except poncirus...)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: cold-stratification
« on: November 26, 2024, 03:29:13 AM »
I've sown Poncirus seed with and without stratification. There may be a slight advantage to accelerate the initial germination process, but I haven't seen great advantages. However, under ideal temperatures, I've noticed some root development under stratification, as well as seed coat breakdown. Seed coat removal may minimize this effect.

I harvested some wild poncirus in october, got like 50 seeds, so far not a single one has germinated. I tried different methods, wet paper = green coloring. Tried with and without shell.
Right now i am trying the cold stratification method in wet coco coir. I also tried regular sowing last year without success.

Any tips on germinating poncirus?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: N1triVoss
« on: June 15, 2024, 05:02:37 AM »
any alternative sources for the seeds?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: N1triVoss
« on: June 14, 2024, 06:38:07 AM »
Does Voss still sell plants or seeds?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Early bloom?
« on: June 13, 2024, 01:18:13 PM »
Is there by chance a good variety, possibly by seed that grows acceptable in Zone  8?
(already have poncirus growing, but  itreally does  grow  slowly).

And are there sellers in europe that ship  such seeds?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Early bloom?
« on: June 13, 2024, 12:52:26 PM »
thank you for the interesting source.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Early bloom?
« on: June 13, 2024, 09:52:46 AM »


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Early bloom?
« on: June 13, 2024, 07:08:59 AM »
Thanks for the information, i will wait until the blooming is over and then start repotting into bigger pot. This might stunt it for 1-2months, but still enough time to trigger growth in summer.

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Citrus General Discussion / Early bloom?
« on: June 12, 2024, 02:28:06 PM »
Hello  guys,
i just noticed a naval  orange  seedling  that started to make a flower, a week later the second flower appeared. It is one year old, but still in small pot, so it  hasnt growing more  than  15cm.
The  leaves look  like  ichang (long wing, than a  longer,  twice  the size leaf), but  it  is  for  sure  from a naval  orange.

On a  side note, it was under low  water  and  very hot temperatures outside.

Is  this  normal or just rare genetics?  What can  I  expect from this plant?

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