Author Topic: ISO Crataegus azarolus (YELLOW hawthorn) within the USA  (Read 1971 times)

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ISO Crataegus azarolus (YELLOW hawthorn) within the USA
« on: April 10, 2024, 01:02:07 PM »
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I'm trying to start a fruit tree breeding experiment of sorts and I'm in search of a yellow hawthorn. I can't find any for sale, there's one on ebay but shipping from Turkey and customs would likely destroy it. Does anyone here have a decent tree for sale, either grafted or otherwise, or know where I can obtain one? I have the seeds, but they're a pain to germinate.

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Re: ISO Crataegus azarolus (YELLOW hawthorn) within the USA
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2024, 12:56:11 AM »
I suppose the correct plant was actually Crataegus pubescens, but any variety of hawthorn that is yellow may help.  Actually, I'm interested in any good eating hawthorn tree that's a good price. 

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Re: ISO Crataegus azarolus (YELLOW hawthorn) within the USA
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2024, 12:24:04 PM »
Fruitwood nursery has a pretty decent selection of hawthorn scion wood including gold azarole. Never tried grafting it myself but I imagine it's similar to grafting apples and pears which aren't too fussy.

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Re: ISO Crataegus azarolus (YELLOW hawthorn) within the USA
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2024, 02:11:52 AM »
Fruitwood nursery has a pretty decent selection of hawthorn scion wood including gold azarole. Never tried grafting it myself but I imagine it's similar to grafting apples and pears which aren't too fussy.

If I need any more hawthorns I will keep that in mind... however, I randomly checked Wanderlust Nursery (www.wanderlustnursery.com) and THEY were selling grafted trees of Crataegus pubescens... of course, I bought two.   I can't believe my luck, nobody else is selling it from what I can see. Massive props to them.

So let me mention what this is for. Crataegus and Mespilus (medlar, specifically Mespilus germanica) are two closely related genera.  Medlar is obscure enough, but I was able to locate and obtain 3 Stern's medlar, which was a Crataegus/Mespilus hybrid found growing on a now-wild stretch of land. Information on Stern's medlar is severely lacking, and it's not known what hawthorn was used as the parent or how this plant even came into being... very itneresting story. The most interesting thing is that Stern's medlar fruit is said to be glossy red, as opposed to the pear-brown of medlar.  I'm trying to create a crossbreed that may result in a yellowish medlar, and if it would have any effect on the fruit size/quality of the medlar. Medlar can grow in most of the USA as it is a temperate plant, one of the few temperate plants I would view as exotic.

Actually most of the whole rose family interbreeds easily, so I also obtained a Karp's Sweet Quince and Mountain Ash Rabina as well to see if I can crossbreed them and get any interesting results.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2024, 02:20:44 AM by BloomAndSprout »

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Re: ISO Crataegus azarolus (YELLOW hawthorn) within the USA
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2024, 10:08:56 AM »
I just harvested some native Hawthorne fruits from a local tree here in the Florida panhandle. The fruits are yellowish when ripe. Decent sized but not huge maybe about the diameterof a quarter. They are tart and kinda astringent but not horribly so. Sure it would make for a good medicinal variety or rootstock for other better eating types. If you want some seeds hit me up. Not sure of the exact species.
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