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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please make a TFF App!!!!
« on: February 05, 2025, 06:12:30 PM »
It costs money to develop these sorts of things and then keep them operating. The site isn't great on a phone, but it is kind of usable with some zooming in and out.

I don't really think a standalone app will get as much traffic to be honest. Call me old school, but I really prefer this format online. It's easy to navigate, search, and most importantly these results are available on Google searches if you hit enough keywords and that will bring new people here periodically.

It is important this remains a repository of information for not just TFF users, but all those around the world. We had a booming forum on this same Simple Machines forum infrastructure for longboards and it was killed due to lack of income / volunteers in the background. When it was deleted, so was massive amounts of information that was very valuable. We just didn't know it at the time, and the loss is still felt today.

I know I haven't done it yet this year, but I intend to donate to TFF and it's mods so that it may continue running.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Rootstock -Purchase
« on: February 05, 2025, 03:34:09 PM »
My boss bought just two trees from them directly, which they don't seem to do usually. I have been meaning to visit for awhile, actually I applied for a job there some time ago but didn't get an interview.

I'll see what it's like in person once this rain rain goes away.


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Sabara to Sabara is, for some reason, more fickle than other grafts. I've had slow, and often long term problematic Sabara grafts, but I think it was the rootstock more often than the graft itself. This said, I have also had many takes. I have a real nice one, almost foot long scion that is looking pretty good right now.

I prune my fruiting sabara pretty hard every year and send out pieces for free, just pay shipping. I will probably do this in a couple weeks. Keep an eye on the BST in the next few weeks if someone doesn't sort you out.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: S> Annona scions 2025
« on: February 04, 2025, 12:50:06 PM »
Interested :)

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A bit different climate, but I tried a couple different paw paw out in the AZ.  It came back every year, looked good all year, but no growth.  I wish you good luck and if it works for you, I may have to give it a try.

Kind of same for me too. It may have been my really high summer temps or low humidity, which we likely share with AZ. I have a more moist and mild (in both directions) climate now and wonder if that will help.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: February 01, 2025, 12:21:46 PM »
Man, I would love to get a tractor with scoop.  I have so much mulch to spread around the property.  Even more jealous of that flowing water.

That’s exactly what I got it for. This property will absolutely FLY with some manure and woodchips. It’s way too big a property to do with a wheelbarrow and truck

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: January 31, 2025, 11:33:53 PM »

Made an investment in this property and my time here and grabbed this old Yanmar with rototiller.


Rototiller


Seedling lychee about to fire off


Regina pitanga has been loading up. I cannot believe these flowers and sets survived the trip.


Regina


The orchard is filling up


Big pitanga. Well before my time here.


Interesting to see how there is consistent creek here. The property has rights to pump water from the creek, and a well.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Fruits do you regret not planting?
« on: January 30, 2025, 01:21:58 PM »
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If you won't have land for 3 - 4 years, I would not worry about growing or getting plants yet.

I kind of disagree with this. Some stuff can fruit awesome in pots, like eugenia, plinia, dragonfruit, and so on. I do agree that you should not get a large collection of trees which need to grow in the ground like mamey, avocado, stonefruit, apples, etc in preparation for a "I'll have my own land soon!" situation.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing Paw Paw in SoCal?
« on: January 30, 2025, 01:18:55 PM »
Mark Lee is fruiting them in Chula Vista with minimal chill hours. They have large tap roots which makes pot culture challenging, have seen very few if any examples of fruiting them in pots.

I had some growing at my old place, 9b, and they got absolutely fried by salt and heat and would usually defoliate well before Fall. I will be transplanting them to my new place, and am tentatively hopeful they will both survive transplant, and grow better at the new place.

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That is a particularly beautiful tree. Great time of year to transplant too.

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I don’t like propagating guavas, but when I used to grow professionally for a couple large nurseries here in CFL, I had pretty good success at rooting cuttings. Just a ballpark but figuring I have rooted at least 50k guavas from cuttings. They aren’t easy, but I know the tricks for getting higher percentages.

I'm all ears for these tips!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Fruits do you regret not planting?
« on: January 28, 2025, 07:53:16 PM »
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I should have planted some of the more common trees.

Realized this too kind of late. You could be literally swimming in unbelievable piles of apples, stonefruits, mulberries, and figs with very little effort. Ok, maybe not figs now due to BFF, but you get the idea. There are some truly incredible varieties available in stonefruit as well, and easy to graft. The same is true for most of these common trees. They grow like weeds, fruit heavy, and the only issue really is just thinning the fruit which is admittedly time consuming sure, but sheesh. Easy. No thoughts, just fruit.

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They made it sound like this thing was native to Antarctica...got duped!

Always be cautious of the seed seller's tales of grandiosity. The forum members are where you'll learn what is true or what's not. Still so much discovery left yet! I do appreciate you trying though, despite you ignoring me. I was actually kind of hopeful I'd be proven wrong.

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Interested in one of those if you'll part with it. I tried planting out some seeds but none sprouted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: January 28, 2025, 06:00:55 PM »
Man! I like to be the owner of that lot. :)

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Congratulations, Kevin. Super jealous!

Thanks friend! Just to make it clear though, I am just a renter here! I so wish I could buy something out here, it is really spectacular. For now though, this is cool and I can't wait to get to work.

It's really hard to present the enormity of it in photos. Even though only say 20 of the 100 acres are usable, it still feels like an incredible amount of land to work with. I am buying a tractor this weeks so I can start to do the "hard jobs".

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Yeah I can only make assumptions with certain plants.  Appearance wise I just assume it is more hardy because it holds onto the leaves compared to other jabos.  My Lujan is looking stellar despite the chilly nights, meanwhile sp Melancia has like 5 scraggly leaves hanging onto the canopy at this time (when it had like hundreds a few months ago).  I am not worried about it because it always comes back with a vengeance in spring, but from that I can infer that the cold tolerance is better for Lujan than Melancia.

Yes, I have to give it to the Argentinian genetics. They are definitively hardier than are the standards, especially anything with white / phitantra somewhere in its background.

I have a Campo Ramon that is a real performer in the cold, never seems phased, but the oddly the one I put in the ground performed very poorly in comparison to the potted one.

This alllll said, while a red defoliates around 30f, my Campo Ramon also did the same at 28f, so we're talking only a few degrees of cold hardiness improvements, nothing ground breaking like 10f.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: January 28, 2025, 05:02:51 PM »
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Congratulations, Kevin. Super jealous!

Thanks friend! Just to make it clear though, I am just a renter here! I so wish I could buy something out here, it is really spectacular. For now though, this is cool and I can't wait to get to work.

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Lesson learned I suppose. That Lujan didn't stand a chance, it is an arguarbly more hardy jabo but only marginally so.  I never really see a freeze so I can't specifically state what the hardiness limits for some of the plants if they survive through my winter.

I did get frost at my 9b spot, and so I saw the limits of most sub tropicals we chase here. Even mature plants could take a major beating with even a minor frost into the high 20s. I knew it was done for, having killed and maimed many. Like I say though, just have to trial by fire for your own knowledge sometimes!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: January 28, 2025, 03:50:28 PM »

First fruits off the rootstock on this grimal getting there. Had a few fruit off a graft from FLNative


Grimal graft from FLNative about to BUST out for the first time. This is on a Sabara rootstock.


I was overjoyed to see all my grafts on my large Sabara survived. You can see some Otto Anderson Phitantra here


In all its glory. I didn't water it for months to lighten it up for the move, and it is thirsty. I watered it well once after move and will slowly start bringing up the water frequency once we warm up. It is around 36-38f these days.




This is where I will install my fig orchard.


Wind dropped avos, will see if they ripen. Seedling cherimoya. Malaysian guavas from the yard this morning.,


First night of having my trail cam up and caught this absolute specimen of a coyote. No wonder there are not that many gophers around...


The previous tenant said there was a mountain lion years ago. Perhaps it is still around? Put my other trail cam here.


White mulberry didn't even blink getting torn out of my old place with my diesel truck. About to push out for Spring like nothing happened.


Haven't had too many fruit off this particular seedling cherimoya but these are looking great.


Sharwil grafts from Spaugh are already pushing. Need to seal up the bottom of the rootstock tonight.


Moro blood oranges, great taste and productivity here

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I recall the conversation. Should have listened to you but I bought that supposedly hardy Lujan with the intent of having an inground jabo (lesson learned). As for the lemon guava. I have heard that the strawberry one was hardier but also hear the lemon one tasted better. I'm pretty sure it's still alive but hard to see how it could fruit dying back to the ground after each winter.

Jabos were tenuous even my 9b CA location in ground. They didn't grow all that well even during mild years. I seem to recall mentioning your "cold hardy" Lujan would meet this fate.

Lemon guava is decidedly not nearly as cold hardy as Strawberry, from my experience.

I thought I could pull off many things. Maybe I could have with better experience and protection strategy and killed some really nice plants in the process. Oh well. Lesson learned I guess, sometimes you need to experience it yourself just to "know" what is possible, or not.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nematodes for Black Fig Fly trial
« on: January 28, 2025, 01:34:40 PM »
Can anyone give me a short and sweet rundown of BFF? My figs are going to grow about to the four or 5 foot height this year and I have bags with small mash to put over them. Is this enough or is there something I should do besides wrap the trunk with Tape and petroleum jelly?

You can bag your individual fruit using Organza bags. That was working well for me, but you will not be getting any fig wasp pollination with that strategy. I have seen some bags that have a bigger aperture, but I don't have a line on them for where to buy. Netting the whole tree can also work, I tried that too, but it was acting as shade cloth and also weighing down the new green growth and making it grow all weird. You could set-up a cage around the tree, PVC or something, then net that with better success imo.

They are flies, so wrapping the trunk doesn't do anything. They fly up and sting the fruit and deposit eggs.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Venmo, zelle Paypal?
« on: January 28, 2025, 01:24:11 PM »
I organize events and accept several hundred entry fees over the course of a few months. I desperately tried to keep PayPal as my only option, so that I could export the data for entry lists and such and keep it all in the same place...

Unfortunately it became impossible to do this anymore. The younger folks in the DH skate community were not accepting of PayPal, and I had to get with the times and start taking Venmo. It is really annoying for me, because I have to monitor and account for a totally separate stream of money. At the end of the day, if I wanted their entry fee money and their attendance at the event, I had to accept Venmo. I got used to it. It's fine. I just make all transactions private. It's supposed to be some silly sort of "social media" payment site or something, idk, I don't care if you paid your gf back for dinner honestly but thanks for sharing?

As a buyer / payer, I pretty well flat out refuse to use Venmo unless I am in direct contact with the person and there is some physically way for me to encounter them later. Buying car parts off FB Marketplate? Not happening. Buying plants from a known grower? Sure, that's fine.

As for Zelle, the interface sucks, but the convenience is pretty good. If you're both on Chase or subsidiaries, it's pretty easy. As I understand Zelle has some buyer protection, as does PayPal for goods/services, and then Venmo? Nada. Good luck. Send the money to the wrong phone number and you're at the whim of that person to be nice to send it back.

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Jabos were tenuous even my 9b CA location in ground. They didn't grow all that well even during mild years. I seem to recall mentioning your "cold hardy" Lujan would meet this fate.

Lemon guava is decidedly not nearly as cold hardy as Strawberry, from my experience.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Shine Muscat - Blandest Grape Ever!
« on: January 27, 2025, 02:17:24 PM »
I have had some really outstanding ones, and some really mediocre ones. I paid the ultra premium price for Korean imported ones, which were very good - and then started seeing them for really cheap, like standard grape prices, from online groceries like Say Weee! They were CA grown, and quite frankly awful. There were some winners in the Weee selections, but it wasn't Muscat.

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My sole surviving seedling decided to create two leaders. Should I let it be or try and air layer one of them (it'd be my first attempt at air layering)?

Have you ever had one, brian? We've had the opportunity to try them twice at F&S and they were incredible. One of our favorite fruits. Not sure it'll thrive here, but I'm willing to try.


It’s nice at the fruit and spice park because no one really knows about them and when they fall they look weird lol
But once you cut inside, it’s orange goodness!
The trees when I was there had at least 10 good fruit just chilling

I had a very good fruit off the tree at Fruit and Spice. It was nice and soft inside and kind of changed my opinion on the fruit overall. Previous times the fruits I ate were rock hard and clearly not ripe.

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