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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning Surinam Cherry
« on: November 04, 2023, 12:33:33 PM »
Yeah they bounce back quickly, I would just prune whenever it is convenient. 

They will take whatever you throw at them.  I have pruned them to near-stumps and they grow back.  I have sawed most of the rootball off and placed them in shallow trays and they take it. 

I wouldn't bother trying to separate them unless you particularly want two separate plants.  Lemon/Cattley/Littorale guavas are like weeds, you can abuse them and they will thrive anyway.  If you try separating it and realize it is actually one plant I doubt it will set it back much.

I have ordered some trees and shrubs over the years from BurntRidge and they seem pretty good.  I am thinking of getting a few pawpaws to try in-ground

I brought everything in a few weeks ago, but very little frost so far.  Oddly, there is a large tomato plant volunteer growing in my dirt pile that seems very happy despite regular 40f nights.  And I am waiting to see if my banana plant's fruit will ripen fully or if they are doomed runts.  I don't have space to give it another year, it was just a novelty.  I am waiting to see when it croaks outside as temps drop

I will have to make an earnest effort to grow some pawpaws outdoors.  It would be funny to find I spent so much time growing tropical annonas only to find the best one is native to my area!  Though still rare it seems

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sc4001992 Betty#1 fig trial updates
« on: October 26, 2023, 05:30:50 PM »
I just checked and mine aren't either, was wondering if others had growth yet.   Oh well, no rush.

Wait, are people really saying the best annona is the cold-hardy native paw-paw - Asimina triloba?? 

Somebody gave me a few seedling pawpaw trees years ago and I planted them out in the woods and forgot about them.   I'm not even sure what they look like I haven't really gone searching for them.  I've never actually tasted one or seen a mature tree.

My sugar apples are overally pretty unhealthy but container atemoya and in-ground (in greenhouse) cherimoya, rollinia, and soursop do great.  I am guessing the sugar apples are just too wet, but I am honestly not sure what their problem is. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / sc4001992 Betty#1 fig trial updates
« on: October 24, 2023, 07:19:27 PM »
from this thread in the Buy/Sell section:

Anybody's cuttings sprout yet?

Eugenia seeds often produce multiple root and stem shoots, especially if the first ones die.  With the well-germinated seeds I sometimes have to choose to bury the shoot or leave the roots exposed to air.  Like GiantGecko, I prefer to keep the roots in the soil even if it means the shoot is buried. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Canola oil for pests experience?
« on: October 24, 2023, 07:09:02 PM »
As far as I know hort oil overspray is not dangerous, if anyone finds evidence otherwise I would be interested to see. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lemonquat vs. Limequat
« on: October 24, 2023, 07:04:45 PM »
Limequat resembles the taste of true lime more than lemonquat resembles true lemon, but both are reasonable substitutes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first Buddhas hand!
« on: October 21, 2023, 11:10:07 PM »
I put googley eyes on them and use them as halloween decorations :)

Their zest doesn't seem as pungent as regular lemon, I think their only value is as novelty

Wow, Tortuga, those are some really pretty flowers.  I have tried growing dragon fruit plants twice and I always get fed up with them being wobbly thorn monsters.  When I finally get more greenhouse space I will have to give them another try.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help! Meyer Lemon Trees Unhappy
« on: October 19, 2023, 03:19:43 PM »
At this point I would not be worried about the current fruit crop and focus on trying to get the plant healthy again.  The most noticeable thing in your photos is that the remaining leaves look quite old but I do not see any young leaves.  When was the last time your tree put out a flush of new growth?

I suggest removing the tree from the pot and inspecting the roots, see if there is rot, see how large the root ball is compared to the container it is in.  Is there stagnant water?  Large dry areas?  If the root ball is small compared to the container I suggest putting it in a smaller container until it starts growing new roots.

How much light does it receive?  The location looks pretty bright.  And I assume it must be fairly warm there, certainly warmer than where I am at and I just put my Meyer Lemon in the greenhouse a week or two ago.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first escarlate fruit
« on: October 18, 2023, 06:49:48 PM »
Is 'escarlate' the Red Hybrid Jabotica, or another type?

Regardless, nice!  Jabos are really cool to see fruiting.  Mine fruited for the first time then had a lot of dieback, hoping it will make another crop soon as it seems to be recovering.

The only jujube I have eaten were generic green ones in India.  They tasted similar to a malus apple but with a slightly spongy texture, versus malus apples that are more crisp. 

How do these varieties compare to the common green jububes?  Not sure if these green jububes are even ripe, nor what variety they may be, probably seedlings.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Illama germination
« on: October 12, 2023, 07:17:28 PM »
None of the seeds I planted immediately in 2021 sprouted and they eventually rotted.  I just got a new batch from Raul, I am going to try Brad's suggestion this time.  I am putting them in a closet to "age" dry and I'll try planting them next summer.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: What brand of fertilizer
« on: October 12, 2023, 08:59:52 AM »
There was just a recent post about this.  I use oscmocote plus slow release for small plants and switch to granular jacks hpf 25-5-15 once plants get large enough that fertilizer burn is no longer a real threat

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time trying cherapu
« on: October 12, 2023, 08:58:16 AM »
I'm happy to hear another person say it tastes great.  I am really looking forward to trying this.

Yes it is the same product meant for ball fields.  It is just small pebbles of fired clay, basically.  I use turface all-sport which I think is the same as mvp but cheaper because it is missing some additive that isn't relevant to growing plants.  Turface is much denser than perlite so it doesn't float or blow away.  Otherwise, it has the same effect as perlite and you could use them interchangeably.  I prefer turface because my containers are always blowing over in the wind, the extra weight helps a bit.  I would use perlite if it was dirt cheap though

Makes sense.   Yes I have been moving to solid-wall containers which helps with dry spots, but they still happen on larger trees with vigorous roots

K-Rimes I am interested in hearing more about why you specifically avoid wood chips/mulch as a container soil component. 

I have always used mulch as a main component, though over time I have been slowly moving away from it simply out of laziness...  basically I have a big pile of soil outdoors and anything that gets repotted is mixed back into the pile.  It now contains enough turface, perlite, cut plant roots, and (unfortunately) spent osmocote beads that it has become pretty free-draining without added mulch so I rarely add more. 

I do recall that mulch tends to form a solid mass as it degrades, and like peat moss can contribute to large dry areas in the container.

Yeah it seems you can grow almost anything in a container. Though, once you start reaching 20gal+ you might not be able to move them easily. 

For smaller plants drainage is the most important thing.  If you take any regular potting mix or "garden soil" (which are mostly peat and "recycled forest products") and mix it 50:50 with mulch/turface/gravel/hydroton you should get something that drains well. 

Once you have large plants in large containers they tend to have impenetrable root balls where the important things are more root pruning and the occasional tub-soak to eliminate dry spots.

I still have half of my first 25lb bag of Jacks HPF left :)

It doesn't go bad, just a matter of initial cost and storage. 

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