Garcinia discussion thread

[Bush2Beach]

Imbe does appear to be the outlier in that it is the 1 African Garcinia and takes full sun much sooner than most other Garcinia's , though Aichacharu also does not appear to flinch much at early on full sun.

I have my imbes (6-18in tall) in pretty much full shade, yours looks to be in full sun which might be too much for a small garcinia.

[brian]

To be honest I didn't actually look into it, I just noticed that my other Garcinias seemed to prefer shade and so I gave the Imbes the same treatment.  It could probably be argued that I give all my Garcinias too much shade, but they look so nice and green and are still growing steady enough I don't want to mess with what works for me

[roblack]

Garcinias have consistently been happier in shade/partial shade here. Intermedia and Brasilensis are fruiting in much shade.

[booeyschewy]

To be honest I didn't actually look into it, I just noticed that my other Garcinias seemed to prefer shade and so I gave the Imbes the same treatment.  It could probably be argued that I give all my Garcinias too much shade, but they look so nice and green and are still growing steady enough I don't want to mess with what works for me

The Garcinias I know from here in Brazil are all shade loving forest species. They actually grow taller in extremely shaded conditions and less in full sun. They rise from he forest floor across a decade or so before fruiting. My false mangosteen and true mangosteen seem to act the same and it’s all a similar climate (equatorial pluvial forest). This is a feature of the garcinias because you can plant them together with other big trees and they’ll happily grow.

[Bush2Beach]

I am sure we can all agree Garcinia's love shade.
If you didn't know and don't learn quickly , you'll have dead seedlings.

The point is Imbe is different, and you can give it more sun from early and plant them out in full sun in most places.

[foresight]

Anecdotally, my mangostana seedlings sprouted and grew the best in the 15-20k lux range (measured at highest leaves). In lower light (2-5k lux) they seem to grow significantly slower, but I'd rather have them grow a bit slower and save the bright spots for other plants anyways. Humidity is more of an issue for me, and I'd expect that in higher humidity conditions a lot of garcinia will take more light at a younger age. Another win for Imbe, as it, along with macrophylla, seem to have no issues with low humidity (15-20%).

[booeyschewy]

I live in an area with 2000-2500mm annual rainfall and humidity never drops below 60%. Even partial shade led to mangosteen seedlings burning and nearly dying. I had to cover them with dried palm fronds which led them to recover.

[Chandramohan]

I have over 45 Garcinia species, many over 6' tall and many in the ground. G. aristata are the slowest growing garcinia I have come across.

[0hip]

you should post some picture chandra - show them off a little

how should i shade them when they are young? i have a bunch that are in full shade for a fair bit of the day in winter but less in summer. do i just plant them twice as many so they shade each other? i have shade cloth for now but that will only work for a year or two

[roblack]

G. aristata grpws pretty fast here too. Slowest has been g.mangostana, followed by Luc's.

[Finca La Isla]

The general rule for best development and then production of mangosteen is to grow them under removable shade until they reach about 2m. At that point the shade is removed, perhaps slowly.
Sure, garcinias including mangosteen will grow in the shade and they will grow taller and more spread out. That’s typical of many other plants as well. More shade produces more and larger foliage.
But mangosteen eventually grown in full sun will produce more and be easier to harvest. When you see mangosteen farms in SE Asia they are always in full sun.
Peter

[booeyschewy]

Not sure if this is helpful but here's some photos of mature trees. The biggest is a false mangosteen prob 10 years or so, the other next to it is smaller and younger. They are planted next to cacao, rubber tree, clove, soursop, cashew, piaçava so decent shade though the large tree gets decent sun at times of the day. The other two smaller trees are probably 5yr old mangosteen growing nearly wholly shaded by younger cupuaçu and rubber trees though no one can tell me for sure and they've never fruited. It could be the native bacupari (the large true one) but I doubt it.

[0hip]

Nice looking trees booey.

 Anyone know what this garcinia is? Flowering at the moment, possibly warenii


 Also picked a few Dulcis to snack on

[cassowary]

Nice looking trees booey.

 Anyone know what this garcinia is? Flowering at the moment, possibly warenii


 Also picked a few Dulcis to snack on

Looks like warenii.

[0hip]

Got a couple of problems if anyone has some answers

 First is the graft Union for two of my garcinia is kinda terrible. Anyone know of any way to strengthen them? Will it get better over time or will the scar tissue get in the way of the tissue forming a good connection.




Next is just a sad looking prainiana seedling. Anything I can do to make it a bit happier?

[Chandramohan]

Ohip, this is my warrenii.

[Chandramohan]

Fruits on my 'Beaked Garcinia', G.nigrolineatta.

[0hip]

First few weeks of spring and both of my mangosteens are looking amazing. One has finally growing new branches after its main stem being broken almost two years ago. Took almost a year before a new stem started

[brian]

First few weeks of spring and both of my mangosteens are looking amazing. One has finally growing new branches after its main stem being broken almost two years ago. Took almost a year before a new stem started

That is really strong looking new growth, very nice.  And I am slightly happy to see I am not the only one with burnt leaf tips on the older leaves

[Nick C]

Anybody know what this tree might be missing? Tried growing lemon drop from seed and it did horrible always chlorotic leaves. I bought a larger established tree and it’s first flush of new growth, same situation

Been a month since I previously posted these leaves. Definitely still not looking great and are starting to push new growth again. Any ideas?

[0hip]

Anybody know what this tree might be missing? Tried growing lemon drop from seed and it did horrible always chlorotic leaves. I bought a larger established tree and it’s first flush of new growth, same situation

Been a month since I previously posted these leaves. Definitely still not looking great and are starting to push new growth again. Any ideas?

 I wouldent worry about it too much. They do take a while to harden up but if you’re worried a small amount of fertiliser should help if there is a deficiency.

Flowers on male and female imbe trees. The males are the ones with more flowers

[brian]

Wow, 0hip, those male trees are absolutely packed with blossoms.  I haven't seen a picture like this before I guess most of the flowering garcinia photos I've seen were of female trees.