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agreed, and the grafted ones have stronger roots for storms, airlayered and cuttings good for greenhouses and pots

Jaboticabas are air-layered in other countries. I've seen or read about examples in Brazil and Costa Rica. The key is that weather is not much of an issue those places, not getting too cold or too dry, because it takes over six months for a finger or thumb-sized branch to root enough to sustain itself. If you think about it, the technique makes sense. You get a fruiting jaboticaba in far less time compared to growing one from seed. You also avoid the possibility of a graft failing or the tree getting broken at or below the graft. The downside is that I do not believe the root system ever becomes as strong as a seed-grown plant. That might not be an issue if you want a container plant and live in an area where storms are not an issue. I am not sure the technique is the right one for Florida but maybe is for California or greenhouse grown plants in temperate areas. I have thought about air-layering one of my Grimals; it has a fairly substantial branch I want to cut off to improve its shape. That may be a garden project for next year, if I have the time.

I might have some rootstock to donate to the cause homie

thanks I will let u know!  I been planting a bunch of FL grown types, mostly maha, cogshall, pickering, carrie, and turpentine.  They all seem to be similar so far, but i don't have a lot of turpentines up yet.

and thanks Lets Mangooooo, I appreciate the kind words!!

they sell these peat coco plugs called rapid rooters or something, had amazing success just cutting them and slapping them on with some hormone, the trick was only using upright and semi hard wood branches in a vigorous state of growth, i think in spring or summer months.  Roots in about 45 days, i used two stacked longways for each marcot

https://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Rapid-Rooter-Replacement/dp/B0002IU8K2

thank Crisp,

i think this link has the comment form at the very bottom, but im not sure if there’s another way to formally submit a letter that actually goes into public record

https://www.cfxway.com/agency-information/plans-studies/project-studies/pde-study-sr417-sanfordairportconnector/

no it has to do with being able to consume them early or having to wait for them to ripen like a persimmon.

Anomaly one of least astringent.

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on April 04, 2025, 05:19:11 PM

Grouping Plinia (jabuticaba) Fruit into Astringent & Non-Astringent Varieties,

Astringent:
Sabara
Grimal
cambuca
Paulista? (ate some early borderline edible, but I say astringent, very chalky)

Non-Astringent:
Red
Anomaly
Escarlate
Phitrantha/Aureana
trunciflora

have not been able to taste coronata, I assume astringent...

Adam, when you say "astringent", do you mean the skin of the fruit? 

Which variety is the least astringent?

Thanks

a very strong pattern on this small grafted tree, I’m in the phase of increasing my stock, with hopes of releasing this before 2027. 

the best thing to do, would be to wait for it to fruit, to confirm whether or not the fruit is variegated and if it tastes anything like the mother tree (maha chanok)

reminds me of pawpaw hunting in Ohio!

congrats on the nice fruits!

nice pics!

can you make the pic a little larger so I can see it on my 15 inch monitor?

Jaboticaba Momotaro new leaves







Red Hybrid jaboticaba new leaves

try to peel n eat, maybe the resin is mostly in the skin, im pretty sure it is, because the first bite and chew was nice, then as I got into the skin the resin really picked up the pace...

very similar yes thank you very much!

Is it this?
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=54014.0;topicseen
https://www.colecionandofrutas.com.br/eugeniaburkartiana.htm

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on May 29, 2025, 10:29:49 AM

no i have no idea

Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on May 28, 2025, 09:56:40 PM

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on May 28, 2025, 06:51:39 PM

mine turns out to be mislabeled, i hope someone didn’t distribute/sell a bunch to people on accident, or on purpose.  Thankfully the tree was gifted to me

not my favorite fruit, resinous flavor akin to suriname cherry

Adam, do you have any guesses as to what it is?
Still looks to be a pretty fruit.
The people who have fruited the Asa-Grayii say it is bland anyways?

no i have no idea

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on May 28, 2025, 06:51:39 PM

mine turns out to be mislabeled, i hope someone didn’t distribute/sell a bunch to people on accident, or on purpose.  Thankfully the tree was gifted to me

not my favorite fruit, resinous flavor akin to suriname cherry

Adam, do you have any guesses as to what it is?
Still looks to be a pretty fruit.
The people who have fruited the Asa-Grayii say it is bland anyways?

mine turns out to be mislabeled, i hope someone didn’t distribute/sell a bunch to people on accident, or on purpose.  Thankfully the tree was gifted to me

not my favorite fruit, resinous flavor akin to suriname cherry

i have been selling these as grafted trees, I messed up my labels because of some confusing emails i got from Jim years ago, where he offered me the similar looking Lindero madrono shortly after I had already got the squat.  I figured he changed the name to the local native name, but they are in fact two separate trees.  This was my fault for assuming they are the same.

I'm hoping the Lindero is more cold sensitive and dioecious...which would make the squat more valuable to me, even though Jim seems to think the flavor isn't impressive, you have to remember he is in the jungle with tons of varieties.  I think of the grower in the middle of nowhere in a greenhouse in the cold, getting to taste these would be a real treat.  Sour sweet, lemonade, delicious and beautiful fruits.  Texture like acuminata, somewhat firm.

I got the Squat type planted in 2019 around winter, so they only took about 5y to fruit, in a 15gal pot about 5ft tall.

the tree is much stronger when it comes to cold tolerance than the other garcinia i had from Jim, called madrono de monte or something...with temps of about 34F in the greenhouse, those all died out but one, and i sold the sole survivor to someone who lives in south FL with better chances of keeping it happy.

I recently harvested fruits from my Squat trees, and the flavor of the fruit in my opinion, is just like acuminata mixed with brasiliensis.  I really enjoy them, i just wish there was a bit more to eat.  I assume the size was small due to the fact my tree fruited over the winter and for the first time in a pot.  The pics Jim showed fruits quite a bit larger.

The fruit is very beautiful and bumpy yellow...you can not consume them too early, you must let them stay yellow then get soft on the tree...the skin is super bitter and unpalatable...which may be good to deter fruit pests like  raccoons and squirrels and rats.

here is a video of the tasting of the first fruits.  Pardon my mistake on the name.  Thanks Alastair Williams for pointing out this discrepancy.

https://youtu.be/IDa2hYClwos?si=m7csv6tFAoVZZbIO