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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Champa nursery
« on: November 06, 2024, 11:09:28 PM »
I've done an online order with them before and had to email them after doing the online order to coordinate with them.

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Update: still have several coffee plants and a #15 pot of cas guava.

Would love to take this Cas if I were closer but I'm sure it'll go to a good home.

Cas guava is now gone. I'll update above.

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Updated with new plants listed above.

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Update: still have several coffee plants and a #15 pot of cas guava.

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I'm still clearing out plants. I have:
* 5 gallon of Dasyblasta Surinam Cherry (good tasting subspecies)
* A couple of small grafted cherimoyas
* A grafted Santa Clara Gold avocado (small, but good for getting scions from)
* Passiflora laurifolia seedlings
* Grafted Passiflora laurifolia on Betty Myles Young Passiflora rootstock

Orange County, CA, pickup only.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is anyone growing Dune Soapberry ?
« on: October 12, 2024, 09:33:36 PM »
My dune soapberry is flowering. Looks just like longan flowers.

congrats!  think you'll get any fruit?  i have some small seedlings of the related pappea capensis that i grew from seed.  i read here on tff that they can take 20 years to fruit.

No idea -- this is the first time it's flowering.

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I need to clear out more trees in pots. Some stuff for free and some for sale. Pickup only in Orange County, CA.

Two One pitangatubas in #15 pots -- one of them multigrafted and fruiting and the other flowering but not fruiting yet. $125 for the grafted one and $75 for the other one.





A few cas guavas sharing a #15 pot -- $75



And some free things if you're buying something:

* Seedling surinam cherries of Marta's Guaruja Red variety in a #5 pot
* Coffee plants in small sleeves
* Seedlings of Chrysophyllum imperiale sharing a #5 pot
* Lots of black plastic #5 and #15 pots

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is anyone growing Dune Soapberry ?
« on: October 06, 2024, 05:37:40 PM »
My one plant of dune soapberry that I started 8 years ago is still alive, and still grows fine, but every year it dies back a good amount for no obvious reason, so it's still only a few feet tall. Hasn't flowered yet.

My dune soapberry is flowering. Looks just like longan flowers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trying to figure out papaya flowers
« on: September 23, 2024, 12:19:33 AM »
From what I could see, the first photo looks like fruit. The second and third photo looked like female flowers. I didn't see any male flowers in the photos. This video shows male and female flowers up close if you want to get a better idea of what they look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7vWcIKcNaw

Awesome, thanks. That video is really helpful -- much better than the ones I had found.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Trying to figure out papaya flowers
« on: September 22, 2024, 01:25:32 PM »
I started a Kamiya papaya earlier this year and it's been flowering lately. I don't really understand papaya flowers. Anyone know what these flowers are? Is this papaya hermaphroditic? Are those little fruits I see, or are they unpollinated flowers?








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I think just cheap white interior latex paint.

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Jamaican Cherry (Muntingia calabura) tastes like cotton candy. The fruits are tiny but really good when ripe.

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I'm not a chemist by any means, but I did do this about a decade ago -- copper hydroxide powder plus white latex paint. I painted the insides of about 70 5 gallon pots with the mix. The exact ratio didn't seem to matter in the end -- I used something like 2 lbs of CuPRO 5000DF with a bit less than a gallon of white latex paint. It seemed to work fine and the plants I grew in those pots didn't have circling roots, though in the end I don't know that it was worth the effort.

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Without having one in front of me it’s a little hard to recall and dissect the flavor. I didn’t get any cinnamon notes that I remember, although my mom says it has some. It has a creamier interior (super tasty) and a grainy almost crunchy layer before the skin (less tasty but still tasty). The flavor is inoffensive (nothing overpowering) and very very good. There’s many fruits I love which I can understand people disliking (think durian or Indian turpentiney mangos) but cinnamon apple I can’t imagine someone disliking. It’s always hard to describe new flavors but the closest I can come is bread pudding. I’d really look into the fruiting size though. The fruit is on the bigger side and you might need some decently sized branches. Grafting if you can get your hands on some fruit and spice park cuttings is also a great idea. God knows how much genetic variety there is out there and you might get something totally different from what I ate. So far, it’s the best rare (not even in specialty rare fruit nurseries) fruit I’ve had.

Sounds great. Are you growing Pouteria glomerata or know where I could get some scions? I've been thinking it'll be fun to try grafting it on my Lucuma (no idea if it's compatible, but can't hurt trying).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: anyone growing chrysophyllum imperiale?
« on: September 10, 2024, 06:24:17 PM »
I have several plants of C. imperiale. Growing slowly, so I doubt I'll see fruit in less than a decade.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unusual mango heat intolerance
« on: September 10, 2024, 06:23:17 PM »
Interesting responses, thanks everyone. So maybe there is something to the idea that mangoes develop heat tolerance from recent exposure to heat, just like guavas (and others) do to cold. We hadn't experienced anything over 90F so far this summer and then in the last week we had several days straight over 100F and the day where it hit 112F really did the most damage. (It's still surprising that my other fruit trees in the same yard were just fine -- I wouldn't have expected them to have heat tolerance.)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Unusual mango heat intolerance
« on: September 10, 2024, 10:14:56 AM »
We've been having a heat wave in Southern California for the last several days, and I've noticed that my mango trees are handling it surprisingly badly. The peak temperature we hit was 112F a few days ago, and on other days we've had consistent daytime temperatures around 105F.

I have two 5+ year old mango trees plus several seedlings, and all are showing major heat damage -- shriveled and brown leaves, in some cases on the top 1/3 of the whole tree.

On the other hand, I have papaya, banana, avocado, cherimoya, white sapote, passionfruit, guava, surinam cherry, starfruit, and other trees planted right next to those mango trees and with the exception of the newest inch of growth on the avocado (which turned brown and shriveled), none of the other trees have any heat damage. All these trees are in the ground.

I've always thought of mangoes as heat tolerant because they only grow when it's hot. I'm wondering if anyone has guesses to why these mango trees fared so poorly in the heat wave.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Arkin carambola not fruiting
« on: September 09, 2024, 12:35:42 AM »
I found with my starfruit trees that it took about 3-4 years of flowering before they set fruit. It also seems like bees need to discover the flowers if you want fruit -- hand pollination didn't work well for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu on lucuma rootstock?
« on: September 04, 2024, 01:38:25 AM »
Sounds great, thanks!

We started a bunch of seed in Cali in 2019 from a bucket of fruit that was shared at HTFG conference and those plants were spread around a bit. Mine all died or were shared around. They appeared to have a bit more cold tolerance than abiu but I still have my doubts for So Cal. Hopefully someone else can report on that. They are smaller fuzzier and about as good as Abiu.
It’s the season now or soon, hit up Oscar on FB.

I would like to try growing Pouteria torta but am not sure where to get seed for it -- Oscar had it a long time ago (I think) but I haven't seen it listed lately. Anyone know a source?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu on lucuma rootstock?
« on: September 01, 2024, 11:27:40 PM »
I would like to try growing Pouteria torta but am not sure where to get seed for it -- Oscar had it a long time ago (I think) but I haven't seen it listed lately. Anyone know a source?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Abiu on lucuma rootstock?
« on: September 01, 2024, 01:14:22 AM »
Has anyone tried grafting Abiu on Lucuma rootstock? I'm wondering whether that might help provide cold tolerance for Abiu here in Southern California.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Looking for lucuma scions
« on: August 28, 2024, 03:03:56 PM »
I'm hoping to graft a good named variety of lucuma on my seedling tree. It's growing well right now, so it seems like a good time to graft it. I'd be interested in Pecan Pie or any other good variety. Thanks!

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Yes to all the fruits you list. Tom in El Cerrito grows all those and more, and the climate of El Cerrito is pretty close to that of Pacifica. (There are actually a couple of spots in Pacifica that have the best of both worlds for a coastal climate -- protection from fog and protection from frost.)

In addition to your list, here are some others that will do well:

Mulberry
Pineapple Guava
Loquat
Macadamia
Lemon Guava
Passifloras (tacsonias especially, such as P. antioquiensis)
Babaco
Tree Tomato
Rose Apple

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It may be P. popenovii. It's definitely in Passiflora supersection Laurifolia (like P. laurifolia, P. ambigua, P. nigradenia, P. venusta, etc.).

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Barath,

My grafted Luc's to Imbe is a bit shaded by a Chico and Longan which forces the Luc's to grow very tall. It has never had any cold damage. The ones I have in pots also do fine in the semi shade and shade. They just need to slowly move out into the full sun.

Thanks Mark. I'll see if I can find a spot that's partially shaded. Like you I've never seen any cold damage on it, but have once in a while seen sun scorch on young seedlings.

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