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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: jaboticabas and zone 9a
« on: May 15, 2014, 09:59:33 AM »
I am in a cool microclimate of 9B. We usually are about 10 degrees cooler than neighboring Orlando in the winter. I have two Jabo's and they are planted about fifteen feet from each other and have been for the last couple years. I had no trouble in the brief frosts we had this past winter, one frost they were protected, the other was a surprise frost where they were predicting upper 30s and we got well below that. The year prior we had a few more and I didn't do anything to protect them. One went through with flying colors and didn't even have leaf damage. The other got hit hard by one, and lost all leaves the next one. But it came back with new leaves in spring.

I never understood the 9a/9b and which one is cooler than the other. I personally think my microclimate is an 8 but who am I to argue. I know mangos, papayas, and starfruit do not last the winter in my area, but the Jabo's do.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Foliar Feeding
« on: May 13, 2014, 07:54:49 AM »
On a weekly rotating basis I spray 8 gallons of Liquid Seaweed, then Liquid Fish, then Liquid Neem and the Dyna-pro soap. Note the Liquid fish is not emulsion but actual liquefied fish. I usually wait until late evening. I just started this process this year and thus far am very impressed with the results. My apple trees are looking great and actually have a few this year(they are still only a few years old and the newest ones haven't sinc'd up on blooming cycles. 

Neem does not stop leaf miners in citrus though, but I am seeing much less damage from grasshoppers, caterpillars, and other munchie bugs.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cat outhouse
« on: May 10, 2014, 09:28:06 AM »
We use .22 rifles where we are. I dont have an issue with them with my trees, but do with them spraying mine and my neighbors houses and garages. We always call each other first to make sure its not one of ours.

On a similar note thanks to a new gun I just picked up, shotgun with riot control rounds. Shoots a bunch of marble sized rubber balls, so now if you have some range, you don't have to worry about killing them. Also if you are in the SCA(you would know if you were) or know someone who is, use a crossbow with combat legal bolts. I had some cats in my old yard at about twenty yards and shot one. Bolt hit it in the ribs and I never saw either cat again. Caught the cat by surprise, thing jumped four feet in the air too. Pain is a wonderful motivator and lesson teacher.

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Wow, great news. So maybe in 15 years or so after it is released and the commercial groves quit gobbling(as they should grumble grumble) the new stock as it becomes available maybe we will get it in the residential markets. I haven't noticed it in any of my trees but I foliar spray and fertilize the crap out of my trees on a weekly basis, so they had better not show any signs.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black sapote not sweet in Hawaii..
« on: May 03, 2014, 12:00:04 AM »
Wait, Black Sapote and Chocolate Persimmons are two different trees? I thought they were common names for the same thing?

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Salt was my first concern. I am not having issues with my lychees but am always open to new ideas. I forgot about green sand, heard of that before, maybe that is what he is talking about.

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OK, I was talking to a bee keeper who takes care of and owns the Melbourne FL lychee grove bee hives. He was telling me the owner there does not mulch at but instead uses some kind of mineralized sand from ocean dredging and him having seen the before and after personally he says it makes a huge difference in the trees. He didn't have much more info than that.

Does anyone have a clue as to what he is talking about?

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Since I have lychee trees(too young to fruit yet) why is the South Florida crop a disaster? In talking with the bee keeper for the Melbourne grove this past weekend, it sounds like those are doing really well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black sapote not sweet in Hawaii..
« on: April 30, 2014, 08:01:53 PM »
Since we are on the subject, I am in a cool 9B zone here in FL, I have been on the fence about getting one of these. We had two very light freezes this year just as an example, jaboticabas did fine, a banana died to the ground. Could I get away with a black sapote here?

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Was nice. Prices were PI normal so no discounts, you simply didnt have to pay tax or shipping. Nice to see a few things I dont normally see, picked up a few oddball lychees my normal nursery doesnt carry( he would order it if I asked). Would have been cool if perhaps PI and some of the other exotic down south nurseries worked together and had a combined fruit tree sale/show. Would make it more worthwhile for people farther away to make the drive and could turn into something bigger, also competitive pricing and stock(not that I saw anything wrong with the stock on hand, it all looked in good condition). There is obviously a demand for this kind of show judging by the turnout I saw.

A pointer for the club, perhaps a slightly more detailed detail sheet on some of the lesser known stuff max size, temps, growth pattern and such. There were a few things I was unfamiliar with and thus didnt buy. The PI people were busy elsewhere and the volunteers while fun to talk to and very knowledgeable about the normal varients and trees we normally have, couldnt tell me much about the really oddball stuff. 

Overall was an enjoyable trip with very friendly people around, but unless it gets bigger with more exotics I will order through my local nursery and get discounts and save the gas for next year.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: this isnt new news anymore
« on: April 28, 2014, 07:59:59 AM »
The comments were the best part. Very uneducated people there. As much as I dislike the POTUS, the ones blaming it on him ordering some shadow agency to spray the trees from high altitude to give them this were the best. I guess he was planning this course of action a decade before he came into power, I don't know. Or the "keep your disease in Florida, our oranges here are fine" from Arizona. As far as I have heard it has spread to every commercial citrus producing state has it not?

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.22 caliber rifle. An orchards best friend. Yeah I like my guns. I pop squirrels regularly. I need a high powered BB gun for deer. Sting but not penetrate the hide, but scare the hell out of them. I want them to associate my property and my fruit trees with pain and fear hehe.

Another route is Guinea fowl. Mean little birds that don't allow anything into their territory they don't recognize and they love eating pest bugs and don't scratch the place up like chickens. Plus they act as a fairly decent alarm system is someone comes onto the property. Trying to convince my wife to let me get a small flock. Supposedly they will clear an acre of ticks inside of six months. My neighbors are all for it hehe.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Centennial Kumquat fruit
« on: April 25, 2014, 12:03:09 PM »
Yeah I have had workers comment on my watermelon tree. Taste is improved greatly by keeping them on the tree as long as possible. Super slow growing tree though. I understand why the larger ones cost as much as they do.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Kill a Mockingbird(s)
« on: April 25, 2014, 10:22:35 AM »
.22 cal bird shot. Takes care of many orchard problems and isn't a threat to anyone else.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus...Mulch or NO Mulch?
« on: April 25, 2014, 08:00:59 AM »
I mulch all of my newer plantings of trees and am gradually rebedding my older trees as I get to it. I put in pea pebbles up to about 3 inches from the truck in a band about 8-10 inches wide. Like I said, I leave a three inch band of open soil. Then I put in a wide 2.5-3.5 foot band of ramial mulch(fresh wood chippings from tree cutting people, they are usually happy not to pay dump fees if they are in the area). I water about once a week, but not too heavily. I have not had any issues. 

Moisture is a plus but is not the primary reason, I do it more for the nutrients of the chips breaking down. The diversity the various trees in the chips helps as well.  If you go this route, ensure the tree people did not toss any citrus trees into the chipper.

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My nursery guy who is a fruit tree collector himself would answer that with an incredulous look and "Now, why would you go and do that?" Keep the fruit, you wont get much anyway so whatever you end up with is a bonus and tease for later on. I have two citrus trees of the same type and age I planted early last year. One I have pulled the buds that spring, the other I didn't. I ended up with only a couple fruit and both trees are almost the same size, the one that kept the fruit is actually taller and bushier.

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Anyone have one of these available or know where they can be found? I already have the other two "Strawberry trees" and am trying to finish out my collection.

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Since you are across town, any chance you could locate a Chinese Bayberry, Myrica rubra. I have two of the three "strawberry trees", still missing this one.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Finger Limes
« on: April 23, 2014, 08:08:14 AM »
It wasn't on their website then either. When I was there in person looking for more trees(due to the price) in something exotic that not many other people have, she brought up the brand new Red Finger Limes that had just been released by the USDA. I think the list she showed me of what they had on hand was far bigger than what was on the website.
 They are also the suppliers for Lui Gardens and Walt Disney World's The Land over in Epcot(don't know if they supply more than that for the park). You might give them a call and ask.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Finger Limes
« on: April 22, 2014, 07:53:27 AM »
They don't list pick up prices on their site, but suffice to say I went expecting to get two trees and I ended up with six for only a bit more than I planned on spending. The red fingerlime I got from them was a slow starter compared to the others(and most of the rest of my trees) but it has really taken off in the last month. Not expecting fruit this year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Finger Limes
« on: April 21, 2014, 12:43:31 PM »
CTMIAMI- Harris Citrus did have Australian Red Finger Limes. They ship but their prices are significantly better if you pick up.

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Sweet, glad I stopped by the board. I might have to drop by if my out of town visitors cancel on me.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Harris Citrus FL
« on: April 21, 2014, 12:35:03 PM »
I visited these guys back when the October furlough kicked in. Their prices for pickups are unbeatable. Very nice and friendly and more than happy to just chat. I had only planned on a couple trees, but when I saw their prices and they had a few suggestions not on their website at the time, I ended up with 6 trees. All are currently doing extremely well and as someone above mentioned have done better and are bigger than my older ones I bought from a normal nursery in one to three gallon pots.

If I needed something unusual citrus-wise, these guys would be the first place I went. As of October they were the only ones selling Red Finger Limes and were so new at the time they haven't had time to get fruit.

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