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Anyone have sugar apples and similar fruits to sell? My friend Krishna is interested in buying.

He and wife live in Plantation  (Southern Broward County). Phone or message him at ‪(203) 654-1699.  He also bought mangoes from me this season.

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Last 3 Keitts went to a customer today. Mango Season is done.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting fig for SoCal?
« on: September 02, 2021, 11:56:37 AM »
My vote goes to black mission fig. I ate a lot of them in Oroville, where the tree was located, a few years ago, there was a tree on the property. The tree was very productive.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I am topping my 5 Orange Essence trees
« on: September 02, 2021, 12:58:28 AM »
Look at it this way. King Henry VIII had his headsman decapitate her. This was his queen Anne Boleyn. This did King Henry no good. It haunted him afterwards.They say her ghost haunts The Tower of London where she met her fate

This inspired a well known English music hall song, and last year a TV series
With Her Head Tucked Underneath Her Arm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQErY55m8vo

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Anne Boleynís ghost has been seen on numerous occasions at the Tower of London.  It is said her ghost haunts the place of her death, beheaded within the Tower of London on the 19thMay 1536.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Lemon Zest fruits sun burned easy
« on: September 02, 2021, 12:35:53 AM »
@sapote
How about get some banana pups from forum members and have the stalks grow high enough to shield your LZ fruits. Bananas like cheap 10-10-10 fertilizer to grow faster and water frequently. Plant 5 banana pups 9 inches apart, and you will have a banana mat established quickly. A banana mat really gets them going and growing (competing, apical dominance?) and throwing off pups quicker. Plant one banana and it takes 2-3 years

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Banana mat>
The root system of banana plants begins as a single rhizome that puts out suckers, which form new plants to replace the dying main plant after it fruits. The rhizome, suckers and their fibrous roots form a mass of roots known as the mat.

Or plant a fast growing tree where its shade will protect LZ fruits. Tree is better because you can prune it to suit the shielding action that you want

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf video by Zill high performance
« on: September 01, 2021, 12:02:35 PM »
Lame. Put it on YouTube. I have no stinkin' Facebook log-on, so cannot see it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Lemon Zest fruits sun burned easy
« on: September 01, 2021, 07:30:04 AM »
I saw that Wong farms in Thermal, CA use mesh bags over their fruits specifically to prevent sun burns. Seems like a good solution for the situation

That's near where I live. We have a trucking company. We hauled about about 400k lbs of Keitt mangos a couple of weeks ago. Supposedly it all came out of a 46 acre field in Westmorland or Calipatria. It was all packed in Thermal, CA though.

I saw pickup trucks coming into where they were packing the mangos and hauling away thousands of pounds of blemished but huge mangos.... for their cows and goats lol. I don't know why they just didn't sell them to a juice company.

This is ridiculous. Fruits with some blemishes are easily sold off at flea markets. Get these mangoes out there on Saturday and Sunday, they will be scooped up. I suppose one barrier is these mango seconds need refrigeration, that might not be available at a low enough price. Citrus is more durable, this is what I have seen (and eaten) at Florida flea markets. This ugly citrus was prime! Such as tangerines and grapefruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango: please donít laugh at my Okrung
« on: August 31, 2021, 05:22:42 PM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Lemon Zest fruits sun burned easy
« on: August 31, 2021, 10:14:27 AM »
Some  thoughts:
Paint one half the LZ fruit w white latex paint. The half of the fruit that gets the most sun.

#2 Drape fruit with aluminum foil

#3 Buy some disposable foam dinner plates. They are flimsy, so double or triple up on them. To use as a sombrero over the fruit. Here in Tamarac, Florida Walmart is having a sale on them. In there last week I noticed they were 150 or 250 of them for $4

These same plates should keep animals off them. Put a hole in the center. Uses scissors to slit to the center. Fit this over your LZ fruit. Then Use masking tape to seal up the slit

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Your night photo shows a scared, shivering baby raccoon in your trap.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I am topping my 5 Orange Essence trees
« on: August 30, 2021, 12:20:37 PM »
This is rather abrupt.  Others with fewer trees do not have the luxury of issuing edicts of, off with their heads. I would at least keep one or two OE as they are.

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+1 on the raccoons going for your ducks. We raise ducks and have stopped raising smaller breeds. They are more hesitant, in our experience, to go after bigger ducks like say a silver appleyard.
We lost three Indian runners to raccoons.

Indian runners are such interesting looking, good looking ducks. I would be out for blood. We have loads of Muscovy ducks wandering around, same as many other places in South Florida. A few years ago I saw 5 good looking white ducks by a nearby house. I never saw them again. Coons and whatever must have done them in quickly, guessing they were pet ducks that someone let out. So had no idea how to defend themselves.

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...or better yet

Procure a giant turkey. Remove its innards, and crawl up into it like Luke Skywalker (or just put it on your head). Rub the innards generously all over your body. Wait for the raccoon assault, and be ready.

Ever see the claws on raccoons? Ever see those claws bared, with the raccoon hissing and snarling? For sure they like animal flesh more than fruit. Though pound for pound, weasels, otters and others in their family are the nastiest, toughest, most fighting critters around. I read about an animal control officer who had trapped one that was a nuisance. Put the trap/cage in the back of his pickup truck. When he got to his destination, he found that the animal had gotten through the cage wires and had escaped.

I would like to see a larger raccoon and smaller weasel put into a secure cage, battling it out to see who wins.

Mink are in the weasel family. This video shows one in a chicken coop at night doing in 10 chickens. The chicken feathers are flying.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWeXEGwXa8g

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Harbor Freight carries only one size animal trap and it is huge. Just $25. Raccoons will prefer meat over fruit, so bait it with some funky old meat from your freezer. Even better if you can buy a live chicken. Butcher it and toss the innards in the trap. Innards give off more of a smell to lure the raccoon in. Eat the chicken and toss the bones and scraps in there.

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@Jack, Nipomo ... Thanks for that. I know you have been around a while, so have seen all the tricks of the animal marauders that look at our fruit orchards as all-you-can-eat buffets.  You might have a large, medium, small number of fruit tree plantings. They want to eat them.
And if the fruits are not near ripe, no big deal. They will eat what is available. Same as we eat green, unripe bananas and plantains, after cooking them.

@Bovine
First off your mango tree cannot be close to other trees... Where they can jump from tree B branches onto the branches of tree A that you want to protect.
If mango tree is in the clear, how about this. See if you can get some razor wire. Coil this at the base of your mango tree. You will not need much of it. Here is what my search shows. That you can get a smaller amount for $40 or so.>> https://www.bing.com/search?q=tractor+suppply+razor+wire&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN  Your local Tractor Supply might have this too. Along with the Ivermectin in the next aisle over.

Obviously, and this has affected me. If your mango tree is not in the clear from branches of other trees. Then what you do at the trunk of the tree will not stop critters. Though, your raccoons just might be too heavy to jump from tree to tree via their branches. I know that squirrels do it. I have seen this. I am already making plans for next mango season to ward off squirrel attacks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to make Surinam Cherry taste better?
« on: August 26, 2021, 09:38:01 AM »
A friend has two Suriname cherry trees. One is red fruits, the other puts out the black variety. The ripe blacks are definitely better, that 95% of the fruits will be a very nice sweet with no off tastes. With ripe as possible reds, the percentage is 50-60%. You can pick lots more ripe reds and toss the ones with the offending taste to them. I have a red tree and next door neighbor a red hedge.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to make Surinam Cherry taste better?
« on: August 25, 2021, 10:12:54 AM »
I had heard to place them in the fridge, cut them in half and sprinkle sugar on them.
Sprinkling sugar on a backyard fruit is just wrong :-\ ....It is either grown right or it is not. Glenn mango is naturally bland. Should I sprinkle sugar on it?

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Thanks Epicatt2. That tube trap looks good and well made. It looks rustproof? No, must paint it or buy the stainless steel version

If I buy one, I will buy at your site. It has a better price.
For reviews here it is at Amazon for about $10 more>
https://www.amazon.com/Tube-Trap-Squirrel-Standard/dp/B00K6JKVK4
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At Amazon a complaint that it rusts. There is a stainless steel version costs more, or paint the non-stainless version.
Also a review that heaps praise on it>>>>

RUSTED
By Real person, fake name on July 18, 2017
Started to rust immediately. They use regular metal that is prone to corrosion and rust. This would all be solved if they used something such as stainless steel. Pictures attached. With this much rust after about 1 month, this thing will not last a year. Waste of money. Why would I buy something that will just rust? I want to keep it forever but apparently you can't,... Jook at the pictures. see less


Don't waste your money on any other squirrel trap
By Jerry Asbell on March 9, 2016
This is a great trap. I started using this trap in the middle of winter and worked great. I place the trap on top of our privacy fence, which is connected to several other fences and properties. I refer to the fence as the squirrel highway. I use peanut butter as bait and works great in the winter time, but have some trouble with birds in the spring. Once the birds natural food source becomes more plentiful they start to leave it alone. Some folks have mentioned that they mount the trap on a board but that would be easier said than done because of the spring apparatus on the bottom. I set a ladder between the posts and use that. It does tend to rock back and forth a little but I shim one end with a little stick or something to stabilize the trap. I did this because I watched a squirrel hesitate because of this. Needless to say, I got that bugger the next day. Now, for setting the trap. You should always wear some gloves when messing with traps. You won't have trouble getting your hands caught in the trap but there is always a chance of getting pinched. I set the trap on the ground in front of me and push the kill bar down and set the dog. It's pretty easy and doesn't require superman strength. Now there are two models to choose from. I got the standard one that does rust, but seems to blend in well with the surroundings and the rust doesn't seem to hamper the traps functionality. You can spend a little more and get the stainless steel one. You can also use it on the ground as well and the openings aren't big enough for pets to get into. The more you use the trap the better you get at it. I highly recommend this trap.[[ASIN:B00K6JKVK4 Tube Trap Squirrel Trap (Standard)]] see less

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to make Surinam Cherry taste better?
« on: August 24, 2021, 07:45:51 AM »
How about put the cherries in a bowl or large jar of cold water, then place in your refrigerator for a day or two. I think the cold water trick mentioned above leaches out the taste that people object to. Described as piney or like gasoline. Next year I will try this for sure. My neighbor has a hedge of Surinam cherries...and fortuitously a bird dropped a seed in just the right location. This Surinam cherry tree is growing vey fast and bushy, now four ft. tall. It had cherries this year.

The reddest ripest ones taste the best. You can lay a blue tarp underneath your tree and eat ones that have fallen off. They are ripe for sure! Ripe meaning the best chance of not having the off tastes we don't like.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buttermilk Mango Tonight
« on: August 24, 2021, 02:09:16 AM »
You have your rescue animals at the shelters. Then you have your rescue mangos for the mango fanatics. I have two Keitt rescues in my house that need 1-2 more days. Animal bitten, I always turn the garden hose on them with high pressure by putting my thumb over the hose end. This really freshens them up, into good as new. Similar to a computer reboot washing away problems. My garden hose technique washes away all residual animal goo and the squishy mango parts/////
"When mango season is running down. You do the best with what's still around"

You are right about your mangos having some good fermentation bacteria in them. This might work when  making pickled cucumbers, to get the fermentation started. Drop in some firm but bacteria infested mango. Also this mango drop in will come with more bacteria strains from the ugly  spilt, bit, mango.

Your mango photos. They look edible or part edible to me.

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I think I have a good design for a squirrel trap. Will show photos when I make it. It is based on homemade PVC pipe rat and squirrel traps. But PVC pipe is not used. My tripping pedal or wire is unique.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cecilove or Pickering?
« on: August 22, 2021, 10:26:38 AM »
That msg citrus blend topping for mangoes is awful. Would ruin any decent mango. Save the msg for the General Tso's!

No to lime juice on mangoes!
What I said was lime juice from a bottle goes great on watermelon. I am eating this combo at this very moment!
Also lime juice in a cold beer. Open beer. Drink two gulps to make room for the lime juice. Add at least 1oz lime juice. What you get tastes like a lime soda with some beer taste underneath it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bigger Fruit trees in yard
« on: August 22, 2021, 07:45:04 AM »
You must have the room to plant a Valencia pride mango tree and let it run as large as it wants to. VP of course having the reputation as a vigorous fast grower. Will produce nice shade in the right spot.

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Squirrelinator unboxing and review. Use of it too and he catches some>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw9lGnto_7g

This guy has a very good system for catching multiple rats. This can be modded for squirrels by putting a plywood roof over it to keep rain out. Also he uses the rat traps with the yellow pedal. The old design with copper hook works better...because the ultimate rat bait (squirrel too?) is to hook a slim Jim sausage with the copper hook then smear peanut butter over it   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrgiTI3pC7M  -- The slim Jim cannot be removed by the rat/squirrel so he will trip the trap. I saw this on youtube but cannot find right now.

Squirrel modification of your standard rat trap. Squirrels have a thicker hide and thicker fur than rats, that allows them to escape out of a standard rat trap.  Simple. Drill some drywall screws into the end part of the trap where the hammer comes down. Screws are drilled in from the bottom. (some narrow gauge nails can also be used) The screws will go into the squirrel's neck and throat. Of course, YouTube has a few videos on this if you want to see this clearly

Small nails used instead of drywall screws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO0m7vz7UU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOUxX5d7GPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqHN3PjXDc

"Tootsie Rolls. Best bait."
"Lightly salted and shelled sunflower seeds" -best bait


Pipe rat trap-- Prolly need larger diameter for squirrel https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Pipe+rat+trap  Pipe needs to be longer than for rats. The squirrel's long tail can keep the pipe trap from closing properly. Closing so that the animal cannot get out. I have seen this closing problem in the small double door HavaHart traps. Never buy HavaHart double door traps. They have newer model single door ones.

Matter of fact I see lots of single door rat traps on Amazon that will work for squirrels. I must read the reviews. Amazon is great for reviews, but then buy it where you like. Ebay what have you. I have already read some Amazon reviews.... And a trap that looks good to me will be panned in the reviews as too flimsy, the trapped animal trashed the flimsy tripping pedal, and so on...


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Spaugh and Oolie --- Thanks for your first hand knowledge at using the squirrelinator. How about getting a pan of water and putting it near the squirrelinator? Varmints are always looking for water, can smell it evaporating.
More dry in California, but we get dry spells too in Florida. Put out a water source + squirrelinator to get them.

As an aside -- Do raccoons eat mangos? I don't mind a few hits by them, but do they really like mangos to where they can be major pests?? I have a Harbor Freight trap (they sell only one size) and caught two racoons this week. I let them go.  I suppose I would have to drive ten miles away to release them, to  where they would not find their way back??
So raccoons, but no squirrels yet in this H-F trap

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